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New York Background Check Law for Purchasing Ammo​

• August 17, 2022

Did you know that nearly 50% of all Americans own a gun? It’s no secret that gun laws have been a point of contention in recent months, but these laws also apply when purchasing ammo.
In September 2022, those who purchase ammunition in New York will need to undergo a background check.

Let’s take a look at everything you need to know about the upcoming New York background check law.

So, What Is This Law?​

Starting September 1, 2022, anyone who wishes to purchase ammunition in New York will need to first pass a background check.

To conduct the background check, you’ll need to provide your name, address, date of birth, and Social Security number. The background check will be conducted by the New York State Police and will cost $10.

If you’re buying ammunition online, you’ll need to go through a licensed dealer in order to have the background check done.

What Is the Purpose of This Law?​

The primary purpose of this law is to make it more difficult for those with a history of violence or mental illness to obtain ammunition. By conducting background checks, the hope is that fewer people will be able to access ammunition illegally. By extension, this also aims to reduce the number of crimes that would have otherwise been committed.

As long as the law is effective, it shouldn’t be difficult to attain these goals.

What Does This Mean For Gun Owners?​

This law applies to everyone who wishes to purchase ammunition in New York, regardless of whether or not they own a gun.

If you’re a gun owner, you’ll simply need to go through the background check process in order to purchase ammo. If you don’t own a gun but still wish to purchase ammunition, you’ll still need to go through the background check process and be registered as an ammunition owner with the New York State Police.

Is There a Limit on the Maximum Amount of Ammunition You Can Buy?​

No, there is no limit on the amount of ammunition you can purchase. This means that you can purchase as much as you want as long as you satisfy the background check requirements.

So, gun owners don’t need to worry about dealing with limited quantities.

Are There Restrictions on the Type of Ammo You Can Buy?​

No, there are no restrictions on the type of ammunition you can purchase.

Whether you’re looking for birdshot or hollow point ammo, you can purchase it without any issue. Keep this in mind when moving forward, as it’s essential to remember that this law is not meant to be oppressive toward those who own firearms.

What if I’m Not a New York Resident?​

If you’re not a New York resident but wish to purchase ammunition in the state, you have to do so through a licensed dealer to have the background check done. You will also need to provide your out-of-state driver’s license or government-issued ID.

Otherwise, you won’t be able to buy any of the ammunition you need.

What if I’m a Law Enforcement Officer?​

If you’re a law enforcement officer, you are exempt from the background check requirement.

However, you will still need to provide your name, address, date of birth, and Social Security number to purchase ammunition. Keep this in mind when moving forward if it applies to you so that you can make the appropriate decision.

What if I’m a Convicted Felon?​

If you’re a convicted felon, you can’t purchase ammunition in New York. This is in line with current federal law prohibiting felons from owning firearms.

Unfortunately, the only way to circumvent this is to have your criminal record expunged.

Is There a Penalty For Attempting to Illegally Buy Ammo?​

Yes. If you’re caught trying to purchase ammunition without a background check, you could be fined up to $250 and/or jailed for up to 90 days. Additionally, if you’re a felon or have been convicted of certain violent misdemeanors, it’s illegal for you to possess ammunition.
In these cases, you could be fined up to $5,000 and/or jailed for up to four years.

Will This Law Always Be in Effect?​

The answer to this question is unclear. The current background check law is set to expire in September 2023, but it’s possible that it could be extended or made permanent.

Only time will tell how this law develops. Regardless, it’s important to be aware of it if you plan to purchase ammunition in New York.

What Should I Look For in an Ammo Supplier?​

If you’re planning on purchasing ammunition in New York, it’s essential to find a reputable and reliable supplier. There are many different companies that sell ammo online, so take some time to research your options.

Read customer reviews, compare prices, and make sure that the company you choose is licensed by the New York State Police. This will help you avoid working with shady dealers.

Navigating a New York Background Check Is Easier Than You Think​

Buying ammo can be a bit of a hassle, but it’s important to remember that the New York background check is nothing new.
So, while the process may be a little different in New York, it’s nothing to worry about. Simply follow the steps outlined above and you can purchase ammunition without any problems in the future.
Looking for other information about how we can help? Feel free to reach out to us today in order to learn more.

 

[Varwin]

Is the background check once per dealer, or for each order of ammo? If I wanted to buy one box of surplus 22lr ammo for 3$, would I need to pay 10$ for a background check?

 

[togmaster]

So is TSUSA a licensed dealer? Will they play the background check game? Will purchases only be possible through in-state brick and mortar locations?

 

[MikeyCNY]

I think they will. They know this company and a few others still sell to NYS residents doorstep. I’ll bet the cease and desist order is already written dated 9-1 and they will mail it so it gets there on 9-1.
Why would they still ship to NYS residents doorsteps? They have to submit tax forms admitting they are breaking the law doing so. This will not be ignored for tax revenue by NYS. If they cared about tax revenue they wouldn’t have passed the background check law. They know full well people will travel to boarder states to buy ammo more.
TSUSA and the likes won’t bother spending $10,000’s of dollars in court defending themselves to sell to us in NYS because it will never pan out for them. Many will still order from them and have it sent to an FFL. Most FFL’s accept ammo for $10 now and many do this now.
Here is proof they will abide by the NYS law and they will only ship to an FFL or authorized ammunition seller in NYS for a background check. This is from their blog

New York Background Check Law for Purchasing Ammo

On September 1, 2022, a new New York background check law will go into affect. This will effect the purchasing ammo. Here’s what you need to know.

blog.targetsportsusa.com

Getting a '404 Not Found' on that link and nothing on their main blog.

Got my 'Mystery Gift' today - Hoppes cleaning kit... not even an extra ammo can. Yeesh. Better than nothing, I guess.

 

[Karpteach]

I just received my LAST TS order (UPS driver asked if China was attacking ). I hope to God that the injunction gets issued soon. I’m going to miss there ammo.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

So do the dealers have to call the background check in or is their an actual website? I can see right before hunting starts the system goes down because it cannot handle the traffic. I feel bad for the dealers that have to put up with this nonsense.

 

[Steal2B]

So do the dealers have to call the background check in or is their an actual website? I can see right before hunting starts the system goes down because it cannot handle the traffic. I feel bad for the dealers that have to put up with this nonsense.

I'll bet a number of sporting good chains, some ranges and box stores will just stop selling ammo in NYS.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Just ordered 2000 rounds of 124g 9mm range ammo. This state is making life difficult.

 

[Dr. Evil]

what their blog says

New York Background Check Law for Purchasing Ammo​

• August 17, 2022

Did you know that nearly 50% of all Americans own a gun? It’s no secret that gun laws have been a point of contention in recent months, but these laws also apply when purchasing ammo.
In September 2022, those who purchase ammunition in New York will need to undergo a background check.

Let’s take a look at everything you need to know about the upcoming New York background check law.

So, What Is This Law?​

Starting September 1, 2022, anyone who wishes to purchase ammunition in New York will need to first pass a background check.

To conduct the background check, you’ll need to provide your name, address, date of birth, and Social Security number. The background check will be conducted by the New York State Police and will cost $10.

If you’re buying ammunition online, you’ll need to go through a licensed dealer in order to have the background check done.

What Is the Purpose of This Law?​

The primary purpose of this law is to make it more difficult for those with a history of violence or mental illness to obtain ammunition. By conducting background checks, the hope is that fewer people will be able to access ammunition illegally. By extension, this also aims to reduce the number of crimes that would have otherwise been committed.

As long as the law is effective, it shouldn’t be difficult to attain these goals.

What Does This Mean For Gun Owners?​

This law applies to everyone who wishes to purchase ammunition in New York, regardless of whether or not they own a gun.

If you’re a gun owner, you’ll simply need to go through the background check process in order to purchase ammo. If you don’t own a gun but still wish to purchase ammunition, you’ll still need to go through the background check process and be registered as an ammunition owner with the New York State Police.

Is There a Limit on the Maximum Amount of Ammunition You Can Buy?​

No, there is no limit on the amount of ammunition you can purchase. This means that you can purchase as much as you want as long as you satisfy the background check requirements.

So, gun owners don’t need to worry about dealing with limited quantities.

Are There Restrictions on the Type of Ammo You Can Buy?​

No, there are no restrictions on the type of ammunition you can purchase.

Whether you’re looking for birdshot or hollow point ammo, you can purchase it without any issue. Keep this in mind when moving forward, as it’s essential to remember that this law is not meant to be oppressive toward those who own firearms.

What if I’m Not a New York Resident?​

If you’re not a New York resident but wish to purchase ammunition in the state, you have to do so through a licensed dealer to have the background check done. You will also need to provide your out-of-state driver’s license or government-issued ID.

Otherwise, you won’t be able to buy any of the ammunition you need.

What if I’m a Law Enforcement Officer?​

If you’re a law enforcement officer, you are exempt from the background check requirement.

However, you will still need to provide your name, address, date of birth, and Social Security number to purchase ammunition. Keep this in mind when moving forward if it applies to you so that you can make the appropriate decision.

What if I’m a Convicted Felon?​

If you’re a convicted felon, you can’t purchase ammunition in New York. This is in line with current federal law prohibiting felons from owning firearms.

Unfortunately, the only way to circumvent this is to have your criminal record expunged.

Is There a Penalty For Attempting to Illegally Buy Ammo?​

Yes. If you’re caught trying to purchase ammunition without a background check, you could be fined up to $250 and/or jailed for up to 90 days. Additionally, if you’re a felon or have been convicted of certain violent misdemeanors, it’s illegal for you to possess ammunition.
In these cases, you could be fined up to $5,000 and/or jailed for up to four years.

Will This Law Always Be in Effect?​

The answer to this question is unclear. The current background check law is set to expire in September 2023, but it’s possible that it could be extended or made permanent.

Only time will tell how this law develops. Regardless, it’s important to be aware of it if you plan to purchase ammunition in New York.

What Should I Look For in an Ammo Supplier?​

If you’re planning on purchasing ammunition in New York, it’s essential to find a reputable and reliable supplier. There are many different companies that sell ammo online, so take some time to research your options.

Read customer reviews, compare prices, and make sure that the company you choose is licensed by the New York State Police. This will help you avoid working with shady dealers.

Navigating a New York Background Check Is Easier Than You Think​

Buying ammo can be a bit of a hassle, but it’s important to remember that the New York background check is nothing new.
So, while the process may be a little different in New York, it’s nothing to worry about. Simply follow the steps outlined above and you can purchase ammunition without any problems in the future.
Looking for other information about how we can help? Feel free to reach out to us today in order to learn more.

As usual, rules for many because of a few. At least according to them I won't have to worry about limited quantities, I'll have nothing to worry about due to the simple steps and it will only cost me $10 each time.

 

[Saltwater60]

Getting a '404 Not Found' on that link and nothing on their main blog.

Got my 'Mystery Gift' today - Hoppes cleaning kit... not even an extra ammo can. Yeesh. Better than nothing, I guess.

GTN posted and copied it above. The blog entry was aug 17th if I remember correctly.

 

[Saltwater60]

Is the background check once per dealer, or for each order of ammo? If I wanted to buy one box of surplus 22lr ammo for 3$, would I need to pay 10$ for a background check?

Yes that’s correct. In your case your $3.00 box of ammo will be $13.00 at minimum. I would also expect the dealer to charge a fee or increase the cost of the ammo. I don’t think you’ll find $3.00 ammo in NYS again.

 

[Saltwater60]

As usual, rules for many because of a few. At least according to them I won't have to worry about limited quantities, I'll have nothing to worry about due to the simple steps and it will only cost me $10 each time.

Yeah I wasn’t too happy with their blog post. It made it seem like this was a good thing and will save lives.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It's nice to have a son in TN. I guess he will be my warehouse until I move there from this G-d forsaken state.

 

[Saltwater60]

So do the dealers have to call the background check in or is their an actual website? I can see right before hunting starts the system goes down because it cannot handle the traffic. I feel bad for the dealers that have to put up with this nonsense.

I feel bad for dealers as well. I will not purchase ammo in NYS any longer. You’ll likely be the benefactor of this because we will be driving down to see you and buy ammo from you. Do you sell it by the case? Can we have it shipped to you from TSUSA if you don’t have cases? Yes I understand if you want to attach a handling fee for something like this.

 

[Bustedknees]

Is there an actual store for Target Sports should I want to take a drive??

 

[GTN]

I have TS prime. If anyone without it in the Avon area wants me to order for them before Sept 1st please pm me. I will happily save you shipping costs if your not buying full cases

 

[Varwin]

Yes that’s correct. In your case your $3.00 box of ammo will be $13.00 at minimum. I would also expect the dealer to charge a fee or increase the cost of the ammo. I don’t think you’ll find $3.00 ammo in NYS again.

For online orders, throw in another $10 for FFL fee and another $15 for shipping on top of that $10 background check fee... NYS is basically encouraging bulk ordering?

 

[FP1201]

what was that comment (from the blog post) about the check expiring in Sept. of 2023? I don't recall reading an expiration date for the background checks. Neither did we find where the fee was established, only that it could be assessed.

 

[Deplorable Me]

From an economic standpoint the $10 ammo fee will only encourage people to buy larger quantities of ammo. That's for the people who understand economics.

Also IIRC when the unSafeAct was passed the ATF told NY to pound salt that they wouldn't be participation in ammo background checks due to potential call volume.

Did prohibition stop the average person from getting alcohol?

 

[Saltwater60]

Is there an actual store for Target Sports should I want to take a drive??

Yes there is. Just google and you’ll find the address. It’s north east of Long Island.

 

[Saltwater60]

For online orders, throw in another $10 for FFL fee and another $15 for shipping on top of that $10 background check fee... NYS is basically encouraging bulk ordering?

But then will that raise a red flag if you bill order ammo? No more splitting cases of ammo legally. I would split cases with my FIL regularly. I’m going to ask my FFL if the amount taken into possession needs to be reported we’ve all seen the press conference saying look at this arsenal with a few boxes of ammo so why would they not come knocking on your door if you order too much ammo. Sorry I don’t trust that this won’t happen.

 

[Saltwater60]

what was that comment (from the blog post) about the check expiring in Sept. of 2023? I don't recall reading an expiration date for the background checks. Neither did we find where the fee was established, only that it could be assessed.

That caught my eye as well. I’m guessing they spoke to some one from the AG’s office in NYS but that’s just a guess. TSUSA sure out a positive spin on the law and I was disappointed to read that. They have no need to do that and I wonder if that’s the statement from the AG’s office. Also I wonder if TSUSA can do the check and they will now profit off of that as well. It didn’t say the check needed to be done in state.

 

[Saltwater60]

From an economic standpoint the $10 ammo fee will only encourage people to buy larger quantities of ammo. That's for the people who understand economics.

Also IIRC when the unSafeAct was passed the ATF told NY to pound salt that they wouldn't be participation in ammo background checks due to potential call volume.

Did prohibition stop the average person from getting alcohol?

We will see how this goes. I’ll bet it’s one guy and there will be delays like crazy. Hunting season to get ammo will be a disaster. I’m looking for some 20 gauge slugs if anyone knows where to get some. No where seems to have them except custom tungsten ones for $9/round.

 

[nortatoga]

Is there an actual store for Target Sports should I want to take a drive??

Check, I believe Conn. requires a ammo purchase card...

 

[Steal2B]

Check, I believe Conn. requires a ammo purchase card...

Or a non resident carry permit that can be obtained through the mail by NYS permit holders.

 

[Bustedknees]

I was thinking they had another place in New Hampshire. Must be somebody else.

 

[GTN]

Ver

But then will that raise a red flag if you bill order ammo? No more splitting cases of ammo legally. I would split cases with my FIL regularly. I’m going to ask my FFL if the amount taken into possession needs to be reported we’ve all seen the press conference saying look at this arsenal with a few boxes of ammo so why would they not come knocking on your door if you order too much ammo. Sorry I don’t trust that this won’t happen.

Very next day after delivery you shot half the order. How are they going to prove you didn’t

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I did notice TSUSA is one of the few places that still has primers. They are all 5,000 bulk packs though. I think my last order with them will be a thousand bucks in primers. I am just glad I can reload all the calibers I shoot. Although I am not quite ready to spend the time and energy to reload 9mm. It is still cheap enough for me to just drive to PA and buy it in bulk. Same with 223.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Forum member leaving Target Sport this morning:

 

[Saltwater60]

I did notice TSUSA is one of the few places that still has primers. They are all 5,000 bulk packs though. I think my last order with them will be a thousand bucks in primers. I am just glad I can reload all the calibers I shoot. Although I am not quite ready to spend the time and energy to reload 9mm. It is still cheap enough for me to just drive to PA and buy it in bulk. Same with 223.

I’m not sure promises are regulated under this. It’s says ammo not ammo components.