The bigger concern is where and how much security does this honeypot of ID theft information have. At the store level and the state database.
Can we assume that ammo now is the "new controlled substance " ?
Here's something for ya: There IS a concern yet to be thoroughly vetted that the NYSP contracted out the BG checks to a THIRD PARTY as they certainly are not uniformed Troopers doing the job... That's right, you're submitting your demographics along with SSN# and in some cases Phone and E-mail information to/through unsecure sources.
It’s confirmed. It is 100% a third party vendor contracted to the NYSP.
I don't see this working with it being legal to possess in every other state. It would have to be federal that to possess ammo you need a "prescription". I don't see that happening currently. I just feel like the only way this law succeeds is if there is mass compliance. There is no way to know what ammo is sold to whom. There is no tracking like guns from conception to crime. Ammo comes in and goes out. I don't see where a check is needed unless you suspect a sting with someone new who has never set foot in your store.
A shop near me is doing it this way. If they know you, no BGC
How do you know it’s an unsecured network. I’m truly asking. I agree at store level it’s scary but once submitted I’d guess it’s more secure.
Now that’s a real gun store!!
This is what I am talking about. I have had enough of the bullshit this state pulls. I am living life as close to those outside NY as possible. I will have what every other free American can have and NY can fuck off. I am so glad that there is non-compliance with this. It is totally possible to not fuck over the true gun guys and gals of this state. These mom and pop establishments need to stop doing the states bidding any way that they can. I understand that it is risky but that is life.
Can you elate to a verifiable source?
I was told by those accessing system that it is not "secure" and I take them at their word.
Wonder if it's being outsourced to India. - Lovely, what could possibly go wrong?
Yes I would. The DMV and other government organizations sell out data regularly. How do you think those warranty companies know what you have?
Probably Russia or Pakistan. Maybe even China knowing NYS.
Awesome. Maybe they will wake up
70% chance it's prison labor, just like the airlines use when you buy tickets over the phone.
Oh great!! More 1911 advertisements.
They did a background check for bullets? I went to Runnings last week and bought bullets and primers, no check. They also dont check powder.
Funny you mention this. Friend of mine who deals a lot with Amish has been getting them ammo from PA. Makes a little on the side.how are the Amish FFLs doing this ???
Yep, the store in Rome. He explained they were just lead with zero powder. They said it was policy.
Big box store policy, I bet. Now, there is a book to record the damn smokeless powder, that reg has been around for years. The guy that inspects that part told me if an Amish person, with no license comes in, well just record his info. I am guessing he would not rememberr that if confronted.
I go to Rome as well. I didn't get muzzle sabots, but some jacketted rifle bullets along with primers...no check. Unless this just went into effect.
Most likely he got a very stupid salesperson.
