I think there might be another company handing out codes to locks (police entering house with code)
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
hey cops .. you have no duty to show up and help ..
Stand Down ..
Stand Down ..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I've already ordered a replacement dial lock for my safe. Thinking of going back to a key for my home lock.
And loose their pensions???????????
1) the "cops" in the vid have virtually no training. Never seen such an amateurish entry - they're lucky he wasn't home.
But more importantly....
2) why in the name of fuck would anyone think an "electronic" lock of any kind is a good security solution?
It's not.
You want to secure your doors...
1) no windows in the doors themselves or near them - sorry "home fashion" metrosexuals, you might as well hang a hammer next to the door on the outside for all the good it will do tou.
2) install a steel security door that opens outward, with 3 heavy duty hinges.
3) install panoramic peep hole in door
4) install one of these in each hinge - the door then can't be removed by punching the pins.
5) And get a REAL deadbolt, not some Home Depot rubbish. And, NO, Schlage doesn't make a high-end security deadbolt.
This is what we use - it's all metal construction and is pick-proof, bump proof, can't be "bolt walked" with a knife, bolt is completely resistant to a carbide blade saw, almost totally immune to anything short of completely ripping the door frame from the house or detcord.
ETA: they're also drill proof - the 2 bolts that hold the inside and outside of the lock are hardened steel AND before you install those bolts you drop a super hardened stainless steel ball bearing in the bottom of each bolt hole.
And no, they aren't cheap...researched this for over 2 months before dumping the coin on it.
Mul-T-Lock Hercular
This is what the keys look like - this one is for the Hercular MT5+, an improved Hercular. The keys can't be made without a special machine costing $15-20K. Nearest locksmiths to us that can make the keys are in Syracuse and Albany.
No one's getting one made at the local True Value Hardware - fucking ever.
But more importantly....
2) why in the name of fuck would anyone think an "electronic" lock of any kind is a good security solution?
It's not.
You want to secure your doors...
1) no windows in the doors themselves or near them - sorry "home fashion" metrosexuals, you might as well hang a hammer next to the door on the outside for all the good it will do tou.
2) install a steel security door that opens outward, with 3 heavy duty hinges.
3) install panoramic peep hole in door
4) install one of these in each hinge - the door then can't be removed by punching the pins.
5) And get a REAL deadbolt, not some Home Depot rubbish. And, NO, Schlage doesn't make a high-end security deadbolt.
This is what we use - it's all metal construction and is pick-proof, bump proof, can't be "bolt walked" with a knife, bolt is completely resistant to a carbide blade saw, almost totally immune to anything short of completely ripping the door frame from the house or detcord.
ETA: they're also drill proof - the 2 bolts that hold the inside and outside of the lock are hardened steel AND before you install those bolts you drop a super hardened stainless steel ball bearing in the bottom of each bolt hole.
And no, they aren't cheap...researched this for over 2 months before dumping the coin on it.
Mul-T-Lock Hercular
This is what the keys look like - this one is for the Hercular MT5+, an improved Hercular. The keys can't be made without a special machine costing $15-20K. Nearest locksmiths to us that can make the keys are in Syracuse and Albany.
No one's getting one made at the local True Value Hardware - fucking ever.
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Unless you have hurricane windows, they will just bust one of them.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
I've read elsewhere that this was in a HOA neighborhood that requires an entry code to be on file. No idea the validity of that claim.
HIghlander
.223 Rem
Cold day in hell giving my code out. Unless they pay for any theft or damages.
GTN
.308 Win
What kind of lock do you have now?
Vapor
.308 Win
I don't like electronic locks at all. Not on my house. Not on my personal safe, and not on my gun cabinets.
The fact is though, unless you live in a bunker, an angle grinder and a recip saw will get into your house. A sledge will go through your walls too. I try to have many layers. For regular thrives, motion lights, dog, and cameras are all huge detternts.
For the others, your best bet is cameras and a lawyer.
The fact is though, unless you live in a bunker, an angle grinder and a recip saw will get into your house. A sledge will go through your walls too. I try to have many layers. For regular thrives, motion lights, dog, and cameras are all huge detternts.
For the others, your best bet is cameras and a lawyer.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Schlage if I remember correctly. Just a convenience factor.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
I used to have to “force entry” into occupancies that were on fire. The toughest places were drug dealers homes an garment factories in Chinatown. Both places with lots of cash. The Chinese garment factories were in multi-story loft buildings. When I showed up for my first tour as a covering Lt. The old time Captain told me, “Don’t be embarrassed to ask for the Hurst tool on the fire floor.”
spat
.950 JDJ
Well, they can have *a* code.
If they ever come and complain it doesn't work they're going to have a lot of explaining to do about how they found out.
But, the real solution is "don't ever buy a property in an HOA".
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Same. I would never move in an HOA community to begin with, and I'd give them a false code of somehow I ended up in one. But some people are not so bright... lol.
spat
.950 JDJ
We built our house out of ICF, so the exterior walls are 6" steel reinforced concrete layed in a monolithic pour.
We have a lot of glass, but I intend to eventually put in some custom security shutters.
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GTN
.308 Win
I have electronic keypad door locks on all my exterior doors but the first thing I do is wipe all codes including the master programming codes
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
For stuff like this I'm as low tech as possible.
Vapor
.308 Win
That sounds pretty nice. Most people don't have that level of structure.
You can literally put your fist through a trailer or some modular homes.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
As I mentioned in a prior thread with a warrant they will all do it. Not very smooth and they tripped over the packages in the doorway.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Exactly. There are very few homes out there that the front door will resist a 18000lb bearcat pushing on it
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
How to pick a Mul-T-Lock Interactive
Interesting...
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
buy a Ryan Home, you can brake in right through the walls, with a BOX KNIFE.
Nope, I'm not kidding. Ryan Homes have siding, thermo-ply ( cardboard with foil on one side ) then insulation ( 3.5 or 6" ) then drywall...........and your in. You just have to be skinnier than 14" to get between the studs.
Nope, I'm not kidding. Ryan Homes have siding, thermo-ply ( cardboard with foil on one side ) then insulation ( 3.5 or 6" ) then drywall...........and your in. You just have to be skinnier than 14" to get between the studs.
spat
.950 JDJ
Milwaukee and Dewalt both make very effective universal lock picks.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Make a hole
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I’m sure all these companies have master codes and the cops have them all at this point. I doubt they even call the lock company. They have the code, exigent circumstances, and boom they are in.