speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
hes banned here but you can find him on other platforms with the same handle. Hes calmed down a bit
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
- Thread starter Glock_USA
- Start date
Too bad.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just asking ..
can i carry in my home while in the kitchen getting another beer ?
can i carry in my home while in the kitchen getting another beer ?
Depick
.308 Win
Only if it’s a bud lightjust asking ..
can i carry in my home while in the kitchen getting another beer ?
not much discussion going on here these days - i've been away from NYGF for a bit and am just seeing that in Dec we got to carry in a few more places. So it looks like private property accessible to the public that doesn't serve alcohol and religious places are the only newly allowed?
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Correct.
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
Just circling back , Did I miss anything, Are me making any traction on any grounds .
ManualF150
.308 Win
Only thing that changed was the restricted places got "slightly" less restrictive.
Meaning that for example, you want to carry your gun to Walmart, you now can.
Remember: Concealed is concealed. Don't be situated in places you wouldn't otherwise be unarmed.
You can't carry at the following:
For the purposes of this section, a sensitive location shall mean:
(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of
government administration, including courts;
(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependence care or services;
(c) any place of worship, except for those persons responsible for security at such place of worship;
(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children
and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt
childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by
the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;
(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;
(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people
with developmental disabilities;
(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction
services and supports;
(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental
health;
(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of
temporary and disability assistance;
(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic
violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;
(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;
(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and
universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed
under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of
cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private
residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated
or state-supported schools;
(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train
cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in
connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail
stations, and bus terminals;
(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five,
or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed
under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;
(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters,
stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference
centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming
commission;
(q) any location being used as a polling place;
(r) any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or
special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to
specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a
governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;
(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
But we can carry everywhere else!
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
This one gave me a hopeful feeling.
saf.org
SAF FILES FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IN CHALLENGE TO N.Y. GUN BAN - Second Amendment Foundation
BELLEVUE, WA – Attorneys representing the plaintiffs in a federal court challenge to New York’s ban on so-called “assault weapons” have filed a brief seeking summary judgment in the case, which is supported by the Second Amendment Foundation. The case is known as Lane v. Rocah. SAF and the...
saf.org
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I bet if we ask really nicely they'll let us take a breath every 10 seconds.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I had to blow the dust off this thread lol.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Well... we CAN carry anywhere we want to carry. Thang iz tho, there are a bunch of places where we MAY NOT carry.
I'm just being a wise ass, not to split hairs, butt, you know damn well a libtard DA will if a body makes a mistake
That_FNG
.308 Win
What does that mean exactly?This one gave me a hopeful feeling.
SAF FILES FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IN CHALLENGE TO N.Y. GUN BAN - Second Amendment Foundation
BELLEVUE, WA – Attorneys representing the plaintiffs in a federal court challenge to New York’s ban on so-called “assault weapons” have filed a brief seeking summary judgment in the case, which is supported by the Second Amendment Foundation. The case is known as Lane v. Rocah. SAF and the...
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
The short version is that they are asking to win without the trial being completed because assault weapons are in common use therefore can't be banned based on the bruin decision.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Whoops.
That’s all.
That’s all.
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
Thank you every one for your input.
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Really is the beginning, and end to the conversation! Thinking about "allowance" reduces the RIGHT to a mere convenience, and one bestowed upon you by someone else... And that's not a RIGHT at all.
So fuck all that noise and fuck NY too!
Concealed is concealed!
Really is the beginning, and end to the conversation! Thinking about "allowance" reduces the RIGHT to a mere convenience, and one bestowed upon you by someone else... And that's not a RIGHT at all.
So fuck all that noise and fuck NY too!
Concealed is concealed!
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
SO I did not see a more recent post on this, What has become of this. do we think it will ever be settled at what point is the supreme court reminded we are still in limbo a few years altter . Has the new environment with Our presedent signing an excectutive order friday help or push this along
ManualF150
.308 Win
Keep movin' peon, nothing to see here.... Thread should be locked and the key thrown away cause a majority of us believe undoubtedly we will wake up one day, with the gestapo purple tie squad telling us to "hand'em over" in our own homes.
My best advice, go lobby down in DC or go write Trump everyday about the shitty gun laws in NY. There's a fellow (and a few of his friends) on here that is also suing NYPD. We'll see where that goes... but probably money pissed on down the toilet.
And @misunderestimated take no offense to what I said above... it's not directly pointed at you, but rather the situation we are all in.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I agree that next will be banning semi auto rifles and more BS. More Bs to come.
Best laid plans tend to turn to shit the second that Timer Beeps...
IF something were to go down, notifications of a pending action would be sent out to those tasked with their execution: hopefully I'll get an "anonymous tip" ahead of time, I figure I need an hour to load up, and slinking down the back roads will get me out of the State in 2~3 hours in one of three different directions.
NY has essentially banned purchasing any semiautomatic rifle for anyone that doesn't have a CC permit and/or the endorsement so we're over half way there already.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
And why do you think they want you to have that added to your permit? They are building a database of those that have or might have semi auto rifles to come knocking when they ban them. Get ready.
Depick
.308 Win
At that point it won’t only be semi auto rifles. Anyone with a pistol permit, semi auto endorsement or purchased ammo in NYS in the last year will have a target on their back.
GTN
.308 Win
And that’s exactly why I haven’t purchased any guns or ammo in this state since the last stupid laws went into effect
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
THIS ^^^^^
Ditto here. Whenever I go back to NY, I never purchase ammo. Sorry for my LGS, but there is just no way that’s happening. And if I were still living there, I would have been making ammo runs to Erie, PA as needed.
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
The worst part is, no one is going to stop the tyranny. NO ONE! We had an EO from the current POTUS that isn't worth the paper it was printed on, courts don't give a shit and side with these illegal laws, just further etching that the corruption isn't just in NY, it goes higher up.
There will be no uprising or revolution. If that were going to happen, it would have already. If they are to come knocking, it's not going to be your local LEO's or even the state guys, it's going to be a military squad going house to house telling us to give them up or else. Imagine opening the door to 12 or so solders with full armament on the other side ordering you to comply. Or, not answering the door and them doing a breech. For those with the money, you can leave, but the reality is most of us may not have that luxury.
People also need to think about this, every store you buy from has a database on every item you have bought there. Even with cash, a gun store has a file on you. You have to show your driver's license to buy a firearm, and from there the file is created. Ever since things went electronic, you have been recorded. There's a chain of shops in the capital district owned by the same guy. If you buy something at store A, store D also knows what you bought. Cash or not. So the database was already there for any purchase you need to show ID for. BUT the ammo checks are a full blown registry, which is illegal, and no ones even batted an eye or lifted a finger to stop it. Oh, it was deemed that the social media account stuff was an invasion of privacy and removed, and a judge did rule that where one can't carry was unconstitutional, but no one has even touched on removing the laws creating a registry.
I know this isn't well liked, but I have no remorse anymore about not buying ammo from my local shops. They are reaping the rewards of our misery with hugely jacked up prices for classes and transfers. $100 for 5 minutes of work to make a transfer? $500 for a pistol class? $100-200 for an AR15 safety class that's not even mandated, but I know of at least 6 gun ranges that will not allow you to use an AR15 anymore unless you take their safety class. So one can spin it anyway they like, but gun stores and some shooting ranges are cleaning up on these laws. Hard to think someone is on my side if they are OK with bad laws and use those bad laws to take advantage of customers.
There will be no uprising or revolution. If that were going to happen, it would have already. If they are to come knocking, it's not going to be your local LEO's or even the state guys, it's going to be a military squad going house to house telling us to give them up or else. Imagine opening the door to 12 or so solders with full armament on the other side ordering you to comply. Or, not answering the door and them doing a breech. For those with the money, you can leave, but the reality is most of us may not have that luxury.
People also need to think about this, every store you buy from has a database on every item you have bought there. Even with cash, a gun store has a file on you. You have to show your driver's license to buy a firearm, and from there the file is created. Ever since things went electronic, you have been recorded. There's a chain of shops in the capital district owned by the same guy. If you buy something at store A, store D also knows what you bought. Cash or not. So the database was already there for any purchase you need to show ID for. BUT the ammo checks are a full blown registry, which is illegal, and no ones even batted an eye or lifted a finger to stop it. Oh, it was deemed that the social media account stuff was an invasion of privacy and removed, and a judge did rule that where one can't carry was unconstitutional, but no one has even touched on removing the laws creating a registry.
I know this isn't well liked, but I have no remorse anymore about not buying ammo from my local shops. They are reaping the rewards of our misery with hugely jacked up prices for classes and transfers. $100 for 5 minutes of work to make a transfer? $500 for a pistol class? $100-200 for an AR15 safety class that's not even mandated, but I know of at least 6 gun ranges that will not allow you to use an AR15 anymore unless you take their safety class. So one can spin it anyway they like, but gun stores and some shooting ranges are cleaning up on these laws. Hard to think someone is on my side if they are OK with bad laws and use those bad laws to take advantage of customers.
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