NRA Shits The Bed and Folds

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You can bump fire with just your finger if you know how to do it right with practice. We'll be seeing more people perfecting it and posting online.
 
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Now I am hearing from the Dems and lib talking heads on the boob tube saying "thank you on bump stocks and now to make a difference we got to go after the out of control civilian semi autos, magazines and the glut of civilian handguns." We ain't a going down a slippery slope, we are heading to a freaking cliff.....
 
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The comments on Hickok's post remind me why I could never be a Republican or a stereotypical "gun owner."

Most are smart and calling Hickok out for folding like a lawn chair, but a concerning number are the dumbass "I never use them, so who cares? As long as I've got my X."

Repulsive.
 
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Steal2B said:
Now I am hearing from the Dems and lib talking heads on the boob tube is "thank you on bump stocks and now to make a difference we got to go after the out of control civilian semi autos, magazines and the glut of civilian handguns." We ain't a going down a slippery slope, we are heading to a freaking cliff.....
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You mean they didn't stop at one thing!?

Woah!
 
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Chuck D said:
I'm chomping at the bit for someone to stand up in Congress and make a pitch to save the bump stock and become a national laughing stock.

There can (and should) be a rational argument made for semi-auto rifles, especially MSR''s that have ALL the factory features but the bump stock and trigger crank are history. Get yours while you can.

This "tool" used the excuse that he was "shooting 3 Gun competition" and that's why he "needed" all these rifles, magazines, and ammo. The gun shop sold him whatever he wanted. So....he threw 3 Gun Competitors under the bus in an effort to kill 58 and wound over 200. Guy did his homework that's for certain.

The NRA is useless. Completely useless BUT they're NOT stupid.

This won't lead to a semi-auto ban or mag cap ban in free America either. Like I said, limit the damage.
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So say a company right now start putting a bump stock on an ar-15 starting today ban it or not. It's a factory feature now? Look just because it makes a semi auto fire faster doesn't mean it should be illegal. This would change nothing. What if I practiced a lot and had trigger work done is that now illegal. How about the cowboy who shoots really fast should his hands be illegal because he's super human? How far do we take it.

I agree it's hard for some one to stick up for it at this point and they are just covering their ass, but that's the problem isn't it. That's all they do is cover their ass to get reelected.
 
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Chuck D said:
Not for a lack of trying....
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BULLSHIT!!!!!! Obama was talking about gun control, but did nothing. In fact, right after Sandy Hook he delayed the reaction by suggesting we need to study the problem before taking action.
 
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Mosinitis said:
Why do we get screwed, because the electorate are as dumb as a rock. ESPECIALLY YOU OBAMA BASHERS. Go fuck yourself, idiots.


BULLSHIT!!!!!! Obama was talking about gun control, but did nothing. In fact, right after Sandy Hook he delayed the reaction by suggesting we need to study the problem before taking action.
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What? You don't remember him bitching and moaning that the Republicans blocked gun control for 3 years after Sandy Hook? You don't remember the fake students of the school behind him?

'It's got to stop': 17 times Obama has pushed for stronger gun control
 
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They have HUGE BALLS when it comes to promoting unnecessary wars that kill thousands of Americans denying healthcare to millions. They are only cowards when it comes to gun rights. When $$$$$, special interest, wall street, they are not scared of anything.
 
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There is no such thing as liberal and conservative division anymore. Get with the times, moron.
 
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Phazer said:
Agreed. This is not the proverbial "hill to die on."

I don't want to give another inch. But, like it or not, automatic firearms are already heavily restricted or outright banned (in areas). I live among the Leftist Liberal Progressives here downstate. They cannot tell the difference between full auto and a semi-auto that is bump-fired (with a specific stock or from a belt loop). Therefore, trying to defend "bump fire stocks" after they were specifically used in a horrific act of violence is difficult and creates very poor optics.

I've tried explaining the differences between automatic firearms and semiauto firearms that are bump fired to some Liberals. They are simply emotional and all reply: If it fires as fast as automatic it IS functionally automatic. They don't give a darn about the mechanical aspect. They don't care that bump-firing is inherently inaccurate.

That said, I'd prefer to get something in a compromise for allowing these stocks to be banned. I'd like to see a hands-off agreement on magazine-fed rifles. I'd like legislation normalizing carry permits across state lines. Heck, I'd settle for normalization of pistol licensing between counties in New York (as long as my county, Westchester, is not used as the model).

Like it or not, we are being forced to play politics with our rights. It is a bad position. I have lines that I will not cross with regards to regulations. I will not, however, go to the mattresses to defend bump-fire stocks.

BTW - I hate this whole damn legislative "need" being forced upon us. My opening stand will always be "no further restrictions." But, compromises may need to be struck.
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Mea culpa.

I retract my knee-jerk reaction.

NOT ANOTHER INCH! DAMMIT!
 
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Disabilities? Wtf?

Stop with the qualifiers or they'll say "then you must get a handicapped plaque for one!"

Bump fire stocks should be legal because there is no reason to ban them.
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I think he was thinking of the pistol braces. If it was a politician I would have seyed that it was just proof that he wrote the statement while high of cocaine (the high qual stuff from the CIA) while getting s*cked off by a off-shore imported hooker.
 
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Mosinitis said:
At least 2 years
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Republicans won back the House in 2010. Sandy Hook was in 2012.

February 4, 2010: Republican Scott Brown's election to the Senate ended the Democratic supermajority. November 2, 2010: 2010 general elections, in which Republicans regained control of the House while the Democrats remained in control of the Senate.
 
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Willjr75 said:
Republicans won back the House in 2010. Sandy Hook was in 2012.

February 4, 2010: Republican Scott Brown's election to the Senate ended the Democratic supermajority. November 2, 2010: 2010 general elections, in which Republicans regained control of the House while the Democrats remained in control of the Senate.
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Typical gun forum debate. I have to use half of my posts to correct the record about things I never said because you keep putting words in my mouth. Sandy Hook came later? NO SHIT.
 
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Typical gun forum debate. I have to use half of my post correcting things I never said because of some idiot with intellectual honesty of a genital crab is putting words ion my mouth. Obviously Sandy Hook came later. NO SHIT.
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Dude. You are one angry feller. Did you not say that he didn't try gun control after Sandy Hook and could have because he had control of both Houses?

Keep editing your posts and insulting me. A sane man would just say, "I was mistaken."
 
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Willjr75 said:
Dude. You are one angry feller. Did you not say that he didn't try gun control after Sandy Hook and could have because he had control of both Houses?

Keep editing your posts and insulting me. A sane man would just say, "I was mistaken."
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I didn't say it was during the same time, just as I never implied I voted for Cuomo.
 
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