Had to ban a Club Member this week

[dsdmmat]

My Club's Range is open all throughout hunting season with restricted shooting hours. There is no shooting before 9am and after 3pm. This is a posted rule and we also make and post signs on the firing line to remind people of the shooting hours.

On Wednesday last week a new club member arrived after 3 and started shooting. Another club member who lives near by came to the range and told the offender that there was no shooting after 3pm because there are people in the woods just beyond the club boundary. The offended became argumentative and demanded to be allowed to shoot his last two rounds.

We caught this all on video and are taking steps to ban the offender from Club Membership and the Club's Property Permanently. If the offender enters the property for any reason the Club will pursuit trespassing charges.

Why do people think the rules do not apply to them? No shooting after 3pm is a rule that has been in place since the club was started in 1979. The person that granted the Club the land for the range had sons in school and wanted them and future generations of his family to be able to hunt after school.

Here is a Tip: If you are new to a club you want to read and abide by the rules even if you think you are special. Range rules are in place for a reason. Violating them puts others in danger and may lead to you never being able to shoot there again.

 

[Cleck]

No sympathy for that idiot here, no matter how new they are. I hope he doesn't get a refund either. Now is the age of the entitled and offended. I'm just gonna start lumping people into this group from now on. There's no excuse for that.

 

[Cleck]

"Sorry, I'm new. I fucked up. Won't happen again. I know it's not a good excuse, but I must have had a lapse in judgement. My bad."

How hard is that to say, or something like that? Ugh, this kinda chaps my ass. I would have liked to see this in person.

 

[dsdmmat]

"Sorry, I'm new. I fucked up. Won't happen again. I know it's not a good excuse, but I must have had a lapse in judgement. My bad."

How hard is that to say, or something like that? Ugh, this kinda chaps my ass. I would have liked to see this in person.

Being apologetic would have gone a long way to giving him a shot at not being permanently banned. I have no use for jerks and don't want to have to shoot around them.

 

[kev74]

Same here - no sympathy.

 

[Exonautic]

No sympathy for that idiot here, no matter how new they are. I hope he doesn't get a refund either. Now is the age of the entitled and offended. I'm just gonna start lumping people into this group from now on. There's no excuse for that.

Unfortunately that's kind of the line our country's divide is starting to rest on. Those who will work their ass off to get what they want and those who believe the world is centered around them and their feelings.

 

[Cleck]

How old were they?

 

[dsdmmat]

How old were they?

50's

 

[Cleck]

Wow, I'm actually wrong in my thinking. Behavior had me thinking of someone younger, but this just goes to show that spoiled insufferable brats exist at any age. Even better - make an example out of him. He should definitely know better.

 

[Target]

He's probably the type that will.bad mouth the club at every opportunity while omitting the fact the he was violating long standing, posted safety rules and was being s dick when told.

 

[dsdmmat]

He's probably the type that will.bad mouth the club at every opportunity while omitting the fact the he was violating long standing, posted safety rules and was being s dick when told.

I will post the ban letter on the club bulletin board.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

follow the rules and things go well. dont follow the rules and you may have to pay the price. to become argumentative.......when signs posted right there?! WTF.

whether you agree with rule or not....you dont argue it. you signed the form saying you'd follow the rules. yeah ok you drive there and it might suck to find out you cant shoot but god. Rather come back another day than to screw myself.

 

[MoMan]

Just like all the "common sense" gun laws.... they ONLY apply to those who abide by the rules! ABSOLUTELY make an example of this moron. Make it known that your club has rules, and they are there to be followed.

If someone has a problem with the rules, they can either not become a member of the club, or work through the proper club system to have them changed.

 

[Jaywmustang]

I agree. Make a example of him. Once gun season starts, my range closes down. I wish we had a policy like yours.

 

[Mk44]

As a new member you would think he would "try" to learn all the rules to the club. If it was a mistake on his part, you would think he would apologize & feel guilty. Nope, not the "entitled assholes". He's not a young foolish kid at 50 y/o. I think the guy has a chip on his shoulder and just a plain old asshole.
3pm people in the woods and this moron still wants to fire off the last 2 round in his gun. NOW that's an ASSHOLE.

 

[E the massive]

What a twat. Over 2 rounds? I want to see his target.

 

[knuts]

50's? i have a feeling that wasnt the first time he got banned from a club.

 

[GOPerfect]

Always read the rules of whatever you are joining. Life is so much easier when you do.

If one does not like the rules; one does not have to join.

I have looked into a few clubs over the years, after reading their rules, most of the time I have decided not to join.

 

[Target]

I will post the ban letter on the club bulletin board.

They're not the people that he's going to tell his story to.
The Post Office, barber shop, sporting goods dept at Dick's, diner, Walmart cashier, guy at the gas station..... are all going to hear what a bunch of assholes you are.
He paid his membership fees. Why do you guys have to get all Nazi towards him?

There probably was nobody in the woods behind the targets....more than likely not..., he doesn't think he saw anybody....If so, why would they hunt near a shooting range? Who's the dum bass now??

 

[dsdmmat]

They're not the people that he's going to tell his story to.
The Post Office, barber shop, sporting goods dept at Dick's, diner, Walmart cashier, guy at the gas station..... are all going to hear what a bunch of assholes you are.
He paid his membership fees. Why do you guys have to get all Nazi towards him?

There probably was nobody in the woods behind the targets....more than likely not..., he doesn't think he saw anybody....If so, why would they hunt near a shooting range? Who's the dum bass now??

Not worried about that. This is the kind of guy that anyone he tells knows the real story. Besides anyone who believes him we don't need as members.

 

[masterswimmer]

They're not the people that he's going to tell his story to.
The Post Office, barber shop, sporting goods dept at Dick's, diner, Walmart cashier, guy at the gas station..... are all going to hear what a bunch of assholes you are.
He paid his membership fees. Why do you guys have to get all Nazi towards him?

There probably was nobody in the woods behind the targets....more than likely not..., he doesn't think he saw anybody....If so, why would they hunt near a shooting range? Who's the dum bass now??

Absolutely zero of this is relevant. ZERO!

The rules were not written or changed after he joined. They were in place for decades. Posted and disseminated to all members and future members to read and agree to. If he didn't agree with or like the rules he should have kept his membership fee in his pocket and elected to move on. Noone put a gun to his head and forced him to join.

Ban him for safety infractions. No room for ANY safety violations in our clubs.

 

[Acer-m14]

My Club's Range is open all throughout hunting season with restricted shooting hours. There is no shooting before 9am and after 3pm. This is a posted rule and we also make and post signs on the firing line to remind people of the shooting hours.

I get your rules there , rules are rules .. just have a few questions ..

On Wednesday last week a new club member arrived after 3 and started shooting. Another club member who lives near by came to the range and told the offender that there was no shooting after 3pm because there are people in the woods just beyond the club boundary.

"no shooting 9am to 3pm because there are people in the woods just beyond the club boundary"

so no hunting in the woods , hiking or what ever during the open hours is posted too ?

just asking .. the range there has no berm from the woods ??

the club i'm at its's open dawn to dusk .. some hunt the back end of the range , we have a big berm on range ... you just deal with the noise if you want to hunt there .. we shoot skeet every few days and every one knows .. all year long .. no berm for that but if you hunt in bow time it may rain lead on ya a bit .. but the distance is so far .. its not harmful ..

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Give him a break. He was probably just drunk!

 

[Darth]

50's

Woah, way to squash the "get off my lawn ya damn kids" crowd's feelings in a single blow. xD

 

[Podmonkey]

I'm glad the range I go to is situated in a valley. The backstops are either side of the valley walls so no worries about hitting anything outside the range. I shot till about 5PM today.

 

[dsdmmat]

I get your rules there , rules are rules .. just have a few questions ..
"no shooting 9am to 3pm because there are people in the woods just beyond the club boundary"
so no hunting in the woods , hiking or what ever during the open hours is posted too ?
just asking .. the range there has no berm from the woods ??

the club i'm at its's open dawn to dusk .. some hunt the back end of the range , we have a big berm on range ... you just deal with the noise if you want to hunt there .. we shoot skeet every few days and every one knows .. all year long .. no berm for that but if you hunt in bow time it may rain lead on ya a bit .. but the distance is so far .. its not harmful ..

We have berms. We also have found dumbasses placing targets on top of berms. Shooting at things that are not in line with the berms and so on. So berms help if the shooter has common sense.

The land grant agreement is the basis for the rule. It is a legal binding part of the land contract. The grantor's kids/grandkids hunt the land adjacent to the range. The basis for the agreement was If they have to track a deer onto the range they can do so without fear of being down range in a live fire range. So the rule is one of those: I will let you have this but, in order to keep it you must do this type thing. If we keep having issues we will either close the range during hunting season or close the membership to the club. It is pretty simple be respectful of the rule or don't have access to the range or the club in the future.

 

[misunderestimated]

Well some people join a club just to shoot,and then call the rest of us following the rules Range Nazi and how the old fuddy duddies of the club are pain in the asses. As always some folks feel that rules are meant for the morons that follow them. They are exempt. I would have the person come before the board and explain why he is deserving of after have a 90 day suspension why he should be allowed to renew his membership.

 

[HighlandLofts]

Rules are rules. Don,t follow them, pay the price.
There is a semi-local club that has a ONE BULLET in the gun rule because some one got shot and killed years. The person doing the shooting was new at shooting, her husband or partner gave her a large handgun to shoot. She kept pulling the trigger, with every pull of the trigger the gun went up and over her shoulder shooting the guy in the head killing him on the spot.
Accidents like this is the main reason I go shooting way out in the wilderness to do all of my shooting, I always have a proper back stop, my bullets do not fly in to the woods behind not knowing what they hit on the way out.
Things happen.

With the chance of any one being in the woods the range has to be shut down, PERIOD!

 

[togmaster]

My Club's Range is open all throughout hunting season with restricted shooting hours. There is no shooting before 9am and after 3pm. This is a posted rule and we also make and post signs on the firing line to remind people of the shooting hours.

On Wednesday last week a new club member arrived after 3 and started shooting. Another club member who lives near by came to the range and told the offender that there was no shooting after 3pm because there are people in the woods just beyond the club boundary. The offended became argumentative and demanded to be allowed to shoot his last two rounds.

We caught this all on video and are taking steps to ban the offender from Club Membership and the Club's Property Permanently. If the offender enters the property for any reason the Club will pursuit trespassing charges.

Why do people think the rules do not apply to them? No shooting after 3pm is a rule that has been in place since the club was started in 1979. The person that granted the Club the land for the range had sons in school and wanted them and future generations of his family to be able to hunt after school.

Here is a Tip: If you are new to a club you want to read and abide by the rules even if you think you are special. Range rules are in place for a reason. Violating them puts others in danger and may lead to you never being able to shoot there again.

When did @4excal join your club?

 

[Cooolone]

Some feel rules are made to be broken, some ignore rules, most submit and obey!

Typically, when "Firearms" are involved, or at a range so to say, rules posted and rules applied are not the type to be ignored or broken!!!

It's really simple, break the rules and you're "out"... Because this member has already displayed a wanton disregard for the club and it's rules, repeat offense is pretty much assured and corrective action is required. No remorse should be felt with the exception of the outted member.

Screw em'and don't look back!