What is Faster? Appendix vs 4 o'clock?
- Thread starter Marine Cpl
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I don't feel a need to carry 2 guns in the same place.
wdeister08
.40 S&W
Appendix naturally seems faster. Glad data shows that out. However, the sitting down conundrum is one that does seem to be a drawback. Be curious to know how people resolve that.
Uzi
.308 Win
Appendix carry is the greatest tactically and superior for control over concealment in terms of anyone else being able to attempt to get ahold of your firearm. The draw is easily controlled and you can always have a visual check of obstructions while deploying and reholstering the gun with ease. While sitting down, you also have excellent speed and ability to draw the weapon as well. Hip carrying is usually reserved for fat or chubby people that swear by it because they're simply compensating for being unhealthy and overweight IMO. Most instructors I've seen that demonstrate IWB holstering always choose the appendix, it's just the way to go.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't appendix carry at 12 o'clock. I tried it and the muzzle dug into my leg when sitting down. I do it at 2 o'clock. With 2 o'clock and an FBI cant, the muzzle points away from my leg.
Kind of like this guy but he's a lefty.
My vote goes for what ever the shooter trains with.
I do not carry next to my nuts. I tried it once and didn't dig it.
I have never trained that way so I would be slow.
I do not carry next to my nuts. I tried it once and didn't dig it.
I have never trained that way so I would be slow.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Half of the guys in the video didn't carry that way either but were faster. 2 o'clock remedies the nut problem.
I didn;t watch all of it. The guy talked too much.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Lol. Then that means you are talking to much then if you didn't see it.
Don't need to watch it to know what works for me.
I'll watch it later, I'm sure it will not change my mind on anything.
Always good though to here the opinion of others.
I'll watch it later, I'm sure it will not change my mind on anything.
Always good though to here the opinion of others.
Also, easy to be quick during a staged event. Just saying.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Easy to draw while sitting. Easy to protect when someone is behind you. Easy to protect when someone is on front of you. Comfortable at 2 o'clock.
No one is forcing you. No one forced me. I tried it and realized the benefits. I'm not stuck in my ways.
No one is forcing you. No one forced me. I tried it and realized the benefits. I'm not stuck in my ways.
One issue that I have with it, is the IWB. I almost never carry inside. I have never liked the feel of it. Nearly every thing I carry is OTW.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I've never tried it OWB. But I think at 2 o'clock it may be doable if you have a heavy forward cant.
I carry around 2-3. Have been for years. Works well for me.
I disagree completely with the IWB frontal to protect, and access appendix carry. 4:00 is easier to protect from front and back, is easier to access should an attack come at you or lay on top of you. It's easier to conceal deployment. But ultimately, like all things, that doesn't matter. What matters is what works for "YOU", what you're comfy with, what you train with... That's all. Because in a fight or flight situation, when your body is dumping adrenaline and all your fine motor skills disappear, you'll want what's familiar and what works "FOR YOU"... 
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah that's what I do. 2 in the summer and 3 in the winter.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Huh? How can you protect at 4 o'clock from the rear? The gun is behind you. I've stood in line behind 4 o'clockers could of easily disarmed them if they didn't react quickly enough and drop their merchandise in their arms on the ground.I disagree completely with the IWB frontal to protect, and access appendix carry. 4:00 is easier to protect from front and back, is easier to access should an attack come at you or lay on top of you. It's easier to conceal deployment. But ultimately, like all things, that doesn't matter. What matters is what works for "YOU", what you're comfy with, what you train with... That's all. Because in a fight or flight situation, when your body is dumping adrenaline and all your fine motor skills disappear, you'll want what's familiar and what works "FOR YOU"...
In a frontal attack an attacker has to get through your hands assuming he's trying to disarm you. You can always ball up too if you can't fight him off, roll, and draw.
I'm not telling anyone that they must but to not try and discount it is like saying you don't like a food without trying it.
In the end you can't knock it till you try it. I've tried both along with cross draw, sob, ect.
GuyMontag
.44 mag
^^^^^^
I'll "risk" losing the nanosecond it takes to comfortably carry at 3:00 for the benefit of not having a gun next to my junk.
Justincase
.308 Win
2, 3 or 4 o'clock are way more natural for me. Especially with so many years of training in a hard Japanese style of karate, my right hand naturally goes back to the hip with when required with no thought or wasted motion. As well, like mentioned before the draw is more easily concealed with strong side. As for someone disarming me from behind, they would have to know the gun was there in the first place, no?
I disagree completely with the IWB frontal to protect, and access appendix carry. 4:00 is easier to protect from front and back, is easier to access should an attack come at you or lay on top of you. It's easier to conceal deployment. But ultimately, like all things, that doesn't matter. What matters is what works for "YOU", what you're comfy with, what you train with... That's all. Because in a fight or flight situation, when your body is dumping adrenaline and all your fine motor skills disappear, you'll want what's familiar and what works "FOR YOU"...
The fact that a 4 o'clock draw can be stuffed so much faster by an aggressor also shows how shitty your fud carry method is
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Uzi
.308 Win
"I don't carry near my junk, but pointed around my femoral artery and branching veins is a okay with me".
phatfarmerbob
.223 Rem
"I don't carry near my junk, but pointed around my femoral artery and branching veins is a okay with me".
This is why I have not tried appendix. Femoral artery gets cut and your all done, I know train train train and all that, but heat of the moment and you just never know. If you fuck up the draw and clip that artery your out of the fight before you even got in it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nobody here likes appendix because of this.
Did I post this already? Whatever here it is again:
What? I mean what? How are what? I can't even understand this, do you have like a knife on your gun or something??
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
AIWB at 11:00. Works for me.