Republicans voting against Nat. Ermergency

[Different Drummer]

I must say I was disappointed to see Stefanik join the Demorats.
Her explanation has some merit but when fighting fire there are times when
You must resort to fire.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

They are traitors. They suck.

 

[MuttCat]

Rino.

 

[Saltwater60]

I understand thier concerns because I think they have merit, but do t kid yourself for one minute that the democraps won’t do the Sam thing for thier agenda next time they are in power regardless of the republicans do it now or not.

 

[prambo]

I must say I was disappointed to see Stefanik join the Demorats.
Her explanation has some merit but when fighting fire there are times when
You must resort to fire.

Stepanik has always played fast and loose with the DemonRats. She can kiss both Mrs. prambo's and my votes goodbye. I've written complaining emails to her a number of times and always get the same self-serving bullshit replies. She's a fucking liar and her "explanations" are not worth dried catshit.

Playing the "bipartisan" card while the nation is circling the drain is just sucking up to DemonRats.

Maybe she thinks she's the next butt buddy for Cuck Schemer.

IMHO, female pols are as untrustworthy as a tomcat with a hard-on and the scent of pussy in the air.

 

[SomeSoldier]

I understand thier concerns because I think they have merit, but do t kid yourself for one minute that the democraps won’t do the Sam thing for thier agenda next time they are in power regardless of the republicans do it now or not.

Show a cheater a new way to cheat and they will.

 

[Burzum]

So FIVE Americans daily (on average according to ICE) being killed by illegal aliens is not a "National Emergency?"

ICE FY2018 page 4, Homicides 2,028:
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/eroFY2018Report.pdf

ANY Republican taking this stance are total cockwashers, we all know the Democrats have become full tilt fanatics, stopping their twisted agenda is paramount to save the Republic.

 

[Sponty]

So FIVE Americans daily (on average according to ICE) being killed by illegal aliens is not a "National Emergency?"

ANY Republican taking this stance are total cockwashers, we all know the Democrats have become full tilt fanatics, stopping their twisted agenda is paramount to save the Republic.

The concern here is that by him setting the precedent of using it like this the Dems as soon as the get back in the white house can do the same. Say good bye to your guns, it's a national emergency after all. I would also like to mention how fucking scary it is to see people that are supposedly for small government get all excited in their pants when it's THEIR guy abusing his power and growing said gov.

 

[Twogunwilly]

245-182

 

[Darth]

The concern here is that by him setting the precedent of using it like this the Dems as soon as the get back in the white house can do the same. Say good bye to your guns, it's a national emergency after all. I would also like to mention how fucking scary it is to see people that are supposedly for small government get all excited in their pants when it's THEIR guy abusing his power and growing said gov.

 

[BDinPutnam]

So FIVE Americans daily (on average according to ICE) being killed by illegal aliens is not a "National Emergency?"

1. Would you care to point us to a reliable source on this?

2. If it really was an emergency why did he and Congress sit on their hands for two years?

3. If the bill that was presented to him was so bad he had to declare an emergency to get around it- WHY DID HE SIGN IT INSTEAD OF VETOING IT?

 

[GOPerfect]

The concern here is that by him setting the precedent of using it like this the Dems as soon as the get back in the white house can do the same. Say good bye to your guns, it's a national emergency after all. I would also like to mention how fucking scary it is to see people that are supposedly for small government get all excited in their pants when it's THEIR guy abusing his power and growing said gov.

Yeah, um no. If they wanted to do anything like you are saying, they would have already done it.

Maybe not you per-say, but it seems like there are many that really are clueless on how the Constitution works.

National Emergency will NEVER be used to abolish a Right in the BOR!

 

[@thewheels]

Great theater. Tony awards for everybody in DC.

The wall should have been built in 1848.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

dont think they wont use the emergency button when/if the every hold that spot again!!! your emergency does not mean an emergency on my part.

I think it is and I commend him for calling it.....people are being directly killed or indirectly but all the crappy drugs comin in....

Shut it down!!!! however yu have to...a wall will control points of access better I beleive.....

easier to monitor and spot people trying to bypass it...you climbin da wall...you trying to get past it. get off my wall!!!!

 

[BDinPutnam]

Most illegal drugs come in through ports of entry, not on the back of a camel through the desert.

 

[Burzum]

Say good bye to your guns, it's a national emergency after all.

DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT, guns are a textual right in the Bill of Rights, it is a tornado of stupid to even parrot that line, good luck declaring regulation of them as a "National Emergency."

 

[Burzum]

1. Would you care to point us to a reliable source on this?

2. If it really was an emergency why did he and Congress sit on their hands for two years?

3. If the bill that was presented to him was so bad he had to declare an emergency to get around it- WHY DID HE SIGN IT INSTEAD OF VETOING IT?

It is elementary Watson:

1) ICE report on FY2018 page 4, Homicides 2,028
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/eroFY2018Report.pdf

2) Trump did not sit on his hands, he was promised by the Cowardly Ryan and Bitch McConnell that they would get him the funding, Ryan and McConnell were in no hurry b/c the donor class wants an open border and status quo.

3) The bill was signed to reopen the government b/c the Open-Borders media and Democrats were able to devote hours of coverage to "suffering" federal workers and not suffering Angel Moms and Angel Dads, Trump lost in the court of public opinion AND he was rolled by the same GOP dickdogs who want an open border anyway.

 

[BDinPutnam]

So why didn't he veto it?

 

[spat]

National Emergency will NEVER be used to abolish a Right in the BOR!

It's been done several times before (during time of war though).

The constitution forbids it, but the constitution forbids most of the gun laws on the books too, and we see how well that works.

 

[GOPerfect]

It's been done several times before (during time of war though).

The constitution forbids it, but the constitution forbids most of the gun laws on the books too, and we see how well that works.

I have not read/studied all of them....

Which ones violated Rights of Americans?

 

[spat]

The concern here is that by him setting the precedent of using it like this the Dems as soon as the get back in the white house can do the same. Say good bye to your guns, it's a national emergency after all. I would also like to mention how fucking scary it is to see people that are supposedly for small government get all excited in their pants when it's THEIR guy abusing his power and growing said gov.

Never fall for the "precedent setting" fallacy.

Trump avoiding this now would not slow the Dems down in the slightest when they regain power.

As for "small government", defending the border is one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government.

Remember this isn't a power grab by the government, nobody is claiming the government doesn't have the right to build the wall. This is a pissing match between 2 branches of that government. Congress delegated the emergency declaration power to the executive back in 1976. I would argue that doing so was improper and Congress shouldn't be allowed to delegate such power to the executive, but we have decades of regulatory agencies in the executive branch exercising authority that was (improperly IMHO) delegated to them by Congress.

 

[Twogunwilly]

Invocations[edit]
Main article: List of national emergencies in the United States
As of February 2019, 59 national emergencies had been declared, with 31 of them being renewed annually. These include the eight that were declared prior to the passage of the 1976 Act.[1][4][19] The longest continuing national emergency dates back to November 1979 by the Carter administration blocking Iranian government property under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.[20]

Since passage of the National Emergencies Act in 1976, every U.S. President has declared multiple national emergencies: Carter (2); Reagan: (6); H.W. Bush (4); Clinton (17); W. Bush (12); Obama: (13); Trump (4).[21]

POTUS Trump didn't invent National Emergencies

 

[spat]

I have not read/studied all of them....

Which ones violated Rights of Americans?

Internment of the American citizens of Japanese descent during WWII comes to mind as a big one.

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus.
Habeas Corpus Suspension Act (1863) - Wikipedia

Roosevelt confiscated privately owned gold.

Lets face it, once they get power, politicians consider the bill of rights as a suggestion at best.

I went looking and ran across this list, seems even more common than I thought:

A Legacy of Violations of the U.S. Bill of Rights, Hyperlinked

 

[MilesTeg]

Another recent one everyone forgets is Obama declared a national emergency for the water situation in Flint. I don't know the details other than it didn't get fixed. I wonder how much money got funneled into donors hands.

 

[Darth]

They would NEVER go around the BOR because of an emergency.

My friend confirmed this to me while in line to get the guns the stormtroopers stole from him during Katrina back.

My Japanese buddy back during the second great war doesn't seem to agree, but what does he know?

Are you guys serious?

 

[Curmudgeon]

Yeah, um no. If they wanted to do anything like you are saying, they would have already done it.

Maybe not you per-say, but it seems like there are many that really are clueless on how the Constitution works.

National Emergency will NEVER be used to abolish a Right in the BOR!

Well, they did put a lot of American citizens in camps back in WW2. Not allowed to move about the country freely.

 

[nortatoga]

So why didn't he veto it?

This was passed in the house only (so far)