Are you voting for biden? If so, why?

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SonOfSun said:
I'm also not a single issue voter. I put everything on the scale and see who I think overall is better. Firearms policy is part of the picture, but not the entire picture.
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I'm not a single issue voter either.

I like the constitution.
I like my guns.
I like my freedom.
I like less government.
I like borders.
I like legal immigration.
I like health insurance choice.
I like capitalism.
I like school choice.
I like law and order.
I like police.
I like free speech.
I like energy independence.
I like the economy being open.
I like not being forced to wear a mask.
I like more money in my pocket. (As a small business owner I have done better with Trump in office)
 
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I am NOT voting for Biden but I know a lot of people who are. Their reasons run the gamut but the major ones seem to be (rightly or wrongly it's their perception):

1. He's racist (hates blacks, Hispanics, etc)
2. He's sexist (grab em by the pussy)
3. Hates gays
4. Puts kids in cages
5. Colludes with Russia
6. Wants to start a war with Iran, China (changes depends on what's in the news)
7. Raised taxes (on high tax blue states)
8. Wants to ban abortion
9. Get rid of Obamacare/doesn't support socialized medicine
10. He's bought by the NRA (God if they only had a clue how non pro gun he really is)
11. He's let people die from covid/hasn't done enough to control the pandemic
12. He doesn't believe in science/climate change
13. He doesn't pay his fair share of taxes
14. He's mean/a bully

This is what I'm hearing from my circle. And my observation is no one under the age of 40 is voting for Trump (again that's based on my personal circle/social media networks).
 
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Catskillkid said:
I am NOT voting for Biden but I know a lot of people who are. Their reasons run the gamut but the major ones seem to be (rightly or wrongly it's their perception):

1. He's racist (hates blacks, Hispanics, etc)
2. He's sexist (grab em by the pussy)
3. Hates gays
4. Puts kids in cages
5. Colludes with Russia
6. Wants to start a war with Iran, China (changes depends on what's in the news)
7. Raised taxes (on high tax blue states)
8. Wants to ban abortion
9. Get rid of Obamacare/doesn't support socialized medicine
10. He's bought by the NRA (God if they only had a clue how non pro gun he really is)
11. He's let people die from covid/hasn't done enough to control the pandemic
12. He doesn't believe in science/climate change
13. He doesn't pay his fair share of taxes
14. He's mean/a bully

This is what I'm hearing from my circle. And my observation is no one under the age of 40 is voting for Trump (again that's based on my personal circle/social media networks).
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Time to find a new circle.
 
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repete said:
My MIL is voting for Harris/Biden mostly because she gets ALL her news from CNN and NPR, also she's afraid Trump will do away with S.S. She also 'know's' Trump is a _______ (fill in the blank). She won't admit it but she desperately wants to see a women in the Whitehouse, doesn't matter who she is.
Add in the fact that Trump might make her youngest daughter get off welfare and actually get a job and that makes her a Biden voter!
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You should let Bernie educate the MIL about what Biden wants to do to Social Security and Medicare.


 
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Catskillkid said:
In my age range it's damned near impossible. Most under 40 have bought into the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
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Well, here’s a ray of hope for you. I took my granddaughter out trick or treating last night and listened to and struck up conversations with at least a doz. different young couples and their friends while their kids went door to door. ALL but one young couple leaned much more conservative than I would have expected, and the one young couple that I spoke to who weren’t, were on the fence. After speaking to them I think they may be changing their mind on a few things
 
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GTN said:
Please help understand this because I have some friends that say Pres Trump is against...
Gays. What has he done against gays?
Abortion. I’ve never heard him say he will outlaw abortion?
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People who don't like Trump don't know him.

They don’t like a caricature of Trump created by the media.

They see parts of the caricature and recognize they are false, but don't realize the things they don’t like are too.

They hear that he is racist, xenophobic, gay bashing, autocratic, anti-semitic, etc... etc...

Then they look and say "well, he's not really racist, mysoginist, illegal immigrant isn’t a race, and he isn't a xenophobe either, he just wants them to follow the established rules of entry. He doesn't look anti-semitic either, seems like he's the best ally Isreal has had in the oval office in decades, but I can't stand his gay bashing...."

So somehow they don't realize that is *all* fabricated out of thin air by the media.

PS. He is also a better ally to gays than any of the democrats. Sure, he isn't pushing to make a bakery make them a cake against their will, but he did put pressure on maky tyrranical regimes around the world to stop executing them. I think defenestration should be a higher priority than "he won't bake me a cake".
 
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While we know college age students are hard core indoctrinated, there is a huge base of support for Trump particularly since creepy joe is saying he'll lock the country down again. Many are tired of the lies and want a real college experience (normal classes, parties, on campus events/concerts, etc).
 
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If you guys want to know why Biden will probably win, Piers Morgan--who is actually friends with Trump (really--but is not afraid to criticize him)--is saying exactly, like verbatim what I've been saying for months.

Summary:
  • Nobody hates biden like they hated hillary
  • TDS is real
  • This election is a referendum on Trump. Biden is a placeholder
  • Many women in particular loathe him and biden leads by an astronomical margin among women
www.dailymail.co.uk

PIERS MORGAN: Women are grabbing Trump by his electoral balls

PIERS MORGAN: It's increasingly clear that many of the women who voted for Trump in 2016 have now turned their backs on him.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Blimey said:
If you guys want to know why Biden will probably win, Piers Morgan--who is actually friends with Trump (really--but is not afraid to criticize him)--is saying exactly, like verbatim what I've been saying for months.

Summary:
  • Nobody hates biden like they hated hillary
  • TDS is real
  • This election is a referendum on Trump. Biden is a placeholder
  • Many women in particular loathe him and biden leads by an astronomical margin among women
www.dailymail.co.uk

PIERS MORGAN: Women are grabbing Trump by his electoral balls

PIERS MORGAN: It's increasingly clear that many of the women who voted for Trump in 2016 have now turned their backs on him.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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I don't believe nearly as many women have abandoned Trump as blacks, Hispanics, Jews, LEO's and their families as well as democrats have abandoned the democratic party.
 
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masterswimmer said:
I don't believe nearly as many women have abandoned Trump as blacks, Hispanics, Jews, LEO's and their families as well as democrats have abandoned the democratic party.
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Nailed it.

I just had a very curvy Latina, and President of her own company here in Florida, ask me if I had voted yet.

I told her I was voting tomorrow. She asked who I was voting for, and I told her company policy prohibits us from discussing politics with customers.

She said to me, "We need you. Vote Trump!".

I gave her a thumbs up.

P.S. I love Florida even more now.
 
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I have no friends that are to the left of center. I refuse to be around these people any more time than needed.

I have a few co-workers that I will allow to tell me their feelings for a short time. After a few minutes, I use my imaginary remote control and I mute them.

I try to listen to them and their points of view, but ALL of them lack real knowledge of the issues and of Trump.

I can go for hours about why I support Trump and others that I am voting for. That is a huge difference between me and them; them being the lefty ones. I have no use for any one that cannot state their views in an honest and fact filled conversation.

To cast a vote for Biden because of a negative feeling of Trump? I find that to be beyond ignorant. Kind of stupid actually. I have a very closed mind, I am not open to change or others feelings. I will never alter my views an cemented subjects.

I hear stupidity coming from the left. I hear the things like, "He won't release his taxes". How in the hell is this even an important issue? Spoon fed, non-thinkers think this is important, this means nothing. Biden is proof of this, he released his taxes and none of the documents shows all the cash he has received from other countries.

I hear the ignorant left talk about things they have never researched on their own. All they do, all day long, is spew what the MSM as fed to them. Not a single bit of time researching on their own.

Too all of America that has or is going to vote for this team, Team Biden/Harris..... I hope, if they win, these ignorant assed Americans get everything they wish for.
 
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If Biden does happen to win one of the things that worries me quit a bit is that it will embolden the MSM. They will see the fruits of their labor.
 
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SonOfSun said:
I'm voting for Biden. I'm a gun owner. I don't like Biden's gun policies at all. Here's the thing, they're both bad on guns with Biden being worse. Trump did nothing to restore any gun rights and put no pressure at all on the topic. He supported banning bump stocks. He had 2 years of both houses of Congress and he did nothing on this front. His inaction is complicit and not acceptable on this particular policy. Overall I don't view Trump's record on the 2A as favorable, so it doesn't help him earn any points with me.

I'm also not a single issue voter. I put everything on the scale and see who I think overall is better. Firearms policy is part of the picture, but not the entire picture.




I don't like Biden. I don't have a Biden sign in my yard, that being said....

I don't like Trump's tax plan that he passed - I don't appreciate him raising my taxes. I realize lots of peoples went down, but mine went up, so as far as it concerns me, his plan was a very real and quantifiable in dollars and cents step backwards.

Speaking of taxes, he never released his. Funny how a monumental braggart like Trump going on about how rich he is cowers and lawyers up when what would actually show how rich he is is asked for. You might not care, but it's my vote and I care, so yeah. My question is, if you won't show me a clear financial disclosure, what are you hiding? If you have to ask the question then.....

The way he treats other people and his general persona is repugnant. His demeanor towards others is everything I teach my two boys not to be. This doesn't mean I teach them to be passive... you can be strong and a leader without being an obnoxious asshole. When I was growing up as a kid, everyone said they wanted to be the president some day, fanciful wishes for sure - but there was always a level of respect and decency with the POTUS. Not Trump.

I could go on, but I don't feel like typing it all out...

Bottom line, I don't think Biden will be a good president, but he's not Trump, and given Trump's record, I'd rather have a Democrat that will do nothing than Trump who I view as counter productive and not worthy as a person of holding the office.

Most presidential elections are referendums on the POTUS when the incumbent is running for a 2nd term. It's not about the other guy, it's about all about the guy in there now. The question many ask is, "Do I want another 4 years of the current POTUS?" If the answer is no then they vote for the other candidate. Ironically this is what won Trump his 1st term, people had a history of Hillary and many didn't like her (me included, I did not vote for Hillary), and many people said I don't want her, so I guess I'll go with the guy with no political record to run on, because I know I don't want her.
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I largely agree that Trump is a moron/says stupid things. He’s not my kind of guy but I will vote for him.
You talk about taxes rising under Trump as a reason to vote for Biden. Just wait. Biden will raise your taxes, shutdown the economy, and kill jobs. I’m not looking to argue with you.
I also agree Trump and the republicans did nothing when they had all 3 chambers but if the dems get all 3 chambers they will do stuff. I’m just not sure any of us will like that something. Guns will be severely restricted, taxes raised for nearly all, crime will rise, protests will rise, and a whole host of other bad crap.
 
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Calculon said:
And they will pay a hefty price for it. Count on it.
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they haven’t yet.
I wonder: if trump is gone what will cnn focus on? It may very well turn its attention from him to the every day joe. I’ve read this book. We are on a sacrificial path and those who are not pulling will be pushed aside.

we will see more cancel culture and more people afraid to speak up.
 
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