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Cavalry said:
You are in the right direction. I like the 1ish gallon mylar bags. Its more reasonable for what you can use in a couple days/week. You can stack the smaller bags in a 5 gal bucket. The real O2 absorbers are cheap to buy, but you need to work fast and seal the absorber bag inbetween batches and when you are done. Make sure to get the right size/number for your particular mylar bag. If your wife has a straightening iron it works just fine for sealing mylar and is far cheaper than an impulse. Check with your local bakery, they usually can hook you up with all the 5 gallon buckets you could ever want.
Rice and beans are cheap store well and are full of protein. Flour is not a long term store, but if you are willing to make the investment on a mill, wheat berries certainty are. For long term bulk items I also suggest oats, pasta, salt and sugar. All dirt cheap and have long shelf life.
If you intend on making bread from the flour, you also will need yeast. No appreciable shelf life, so you need to rotate it out and should look into a yeast starter if you aren't already familiar. Lastly everything long term storage takes a shit load of water to make something from it. Make sure you have the ability to store or procure water.
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why not make unleavened bread?

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why not make unleavened bread?

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My situation would be to use sourdough starter. some have been passed down generations. One does not even have to use store bought yeast... There are wild yeast spores all around us ... Barm from beer is also used for the starter for centuries . Egyptian timeshas been made with barm. Very fast, super rise, no sour and sort of sweet. Just what most folks and bakers have wanted in their bread for thousands of years.

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I'm blessed in that I have a husband who not only washes dishes, but also makes excellent beer and wine. A couple of days ago he was mopping up the 'warm' cupboard after his beer primary foamed over. I handed him a small bowl and spoon and asked him to skim some foam of the top of the beer for...
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livingston said:
My situation would be to use sourdough starter. some have been passed down generations. One does not even have to use store bought yeast... There are wild yeast spores all around us ... Barm from beer is also used for the starter for centuries . Egyptian timeshas been made with barm. Very fast, super rise, no sour and sort of sweet. Just what most folks and bakers have wanted in their bread for thousands of years.

Real barm bread | The Fresh Loaf

I'm blessed in that I have a husband who not only washes dishes, but also makes excellent beer and wine. A couple of days ago he was mopping up the 'warm' cupboard after his beer primary foamed over. I handed him a small bowl and spoon and asked him to skim some foam of the top of the beer for...
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i don't know if i want to do this .. but i have a real jar from Australia ... "Vegemite" .. it came in the care package of 12 packs of TimTams ( cookies )

... use it for a sourdough starter ( barm ) .. if it even can be done ..

" Vegemite is a thick, dark brown Australian food spread made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives. "
 
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Doc8404 said:
why not make unleavened bread?

thebiblicalnutritionist.com

Unleavened Bread Recipe – How to Make an Israeli Classic

This easy unleavened bread recipe is nutritious - make it with just 6 ingredients! As you read the Bible prepare this unleavened bread!
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That is certainly a viable option, I personally am not a big fan of unleavened breads. I would rather get a sourdough going and keep trucking. As far as propagating from wild yeasts, I have never done it, there is always room to learn and grow with being prepared.
 
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i don't know if i want to do this .. but i have a real jar from Australia ... "Vegemite" .. it came in the care package of 12 packs of TimTams ( cookies )

... use it for a sourdough starter ( barm ) .. if it even can be done ..

" Vegemite is a thick, dark brown Australian food spread made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives. "
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I looked into it quick, it appears that you cannot use vegemite as a yeast, I am guessing because its already spent from the beer fermentation.
 
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So, I'm not going to parse through 5 pages of this thread to see if it was mentioned, but this goes directly toward stocking up -

In 1859, a medium solar flare hit our planet.
Luckily, being 1859, the Earth's mag field was pretty decent, and there wasn't much electricity about.
But on that day, any stuff that did exist, mostly telegraphs along railroads, got fried.
Quite literally, the wires burned on the poles. Not shitting you.

Back then, they didn't have a big-assed coil transformer on a phone pole, every two houses. They didn't have a choke coil in every power supply throughout your house; there were no power supplies. But on that day, either because of the flare or as a result of whatever caused it, Earth's N and S magnetic poles got kicked and started moving toward the equator. Fast. And they've been moving faster, since then. And the mag field has been weakening as they do so. A lot, more and more each year. That same solar flare, today, would wipe us back into the bronze age in mere hours.

Why? If that crap hit today, probably every piece of romex would get hot. Every motor would melt, every transformer would melt, every shitty wire-nut junction would come due. And a lot of it will burn. Every PSU would cook off, without question. Every motor, compressor, pump, electric stove, AirCon would burn, your circuit breaker and "muh grounding" wouldn't mean fuck-all; it isn't about "grounding". It's all about step potentials, orientation, and B-flux at that point.

In the 1859 Carrington Event, telegraph operators got their ears burned, seriously so, even with the shit turned off and the headsets *unplugged*.
It turns out, speakers have coils. "Grounding" didn't mean shit.

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In your canning and 5gal bucket strategy,
make sure you account for the fact that your smoke detectors will make, at best, a momentary "wwerrrrp", once, as anything with a choke coil in it cooks off.
And then you will have about four minutes of triage to decide what you will throw out of a window before you throw yourself out of it. Remember that you'll need to survive that fall.

What I will suggest, when that takes place - and it *will* take place in the next half solar cycle -
Everyone of value gets out immediately, and shuts every door to every room on their way out.
If you can store your prep stuff *away* from what's going to burn on that day, then do so, as best you can. Think "Amish".
Some stuff will need to be rescued from the house, that's a given. Decide which pets that includes. Realize that you have about 3 or 4 minutes to do so, if you wake up immediately, and realize that your gear and you are going out of a window when conditions become untenable. A lung-full of phosgene and cynonide from your wife's burning sofa and carpet, and it won't matter if you actually get out the window; you'll die on the grass twelve minutes later. Noone will be coming to help; *every* house will be doing this.

I pray I get to look back at this post in 20 years and think, "what a douche."

But odds are, our ability to use "electricity" won't exist at that point. It *is* coming. We can do fuck-all to stop it; the sun does what it always does. And one of the things it does is hit us with a big fucking flare every 150 to 200 years.

We're due. And electric crap is new.
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When this happens, we are most likely looking at a mass extinction event.
No grid, no fuel pumps, no refining crude, no pumping crude, no way to transport remaining fuel as nearly any truck, plane or ship made in the last 40 years and more will be severely impacted.
Emergency backup gens circulating coolant at nuclear plants around the world run dry and it's a global Fukushima.
 
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When this happens, we are most likely looking at a mass extinction event.
No grid, no fuel pumps, no refining crude, no pumping crude, no way to transport remaining fuel as nearly any truck, plane or ship made in the last 40 years and more will be severely impacted.
Emergency backup gens circulating coolant at nuclear plants around the world run dry and it's a global Fukushima.
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Very true. The only thing still running will be mechanical injection diesel if you can push start it and they have been phased out in the last 10 years. IMO all driving around is going to get you is robbed or killed.
Nuclear plants arent the only problem, think dams, chemical plants and the mulitude of other things that require constant maintenance to keep from boiling over, Once their systems go dark its going to release plumes of toxins from the reactions going bad or a tidal wave. Best one can hope for is to be as far as they can be from civilization, live like its 1859 and hope nothing nasty floats their way or rains down on them.
 
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@thewheels said:
When this happens, we are most likely looking at a mass extinction event.
No grid, no fuel pumps, no refining crude, no pumping crude, no way to transport remaining fuel as nearly any truck, plane or ship made in the last 40 years and more will be severely impacted.
Emergency backup gens circulating coolant at nuclear plants around the world run dry and it's a global Fukushima.
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I do not think there are many people in the world that realize how dependent we all are on electric power. Scary shit when you really think about it.
 
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I do not think there are many people in the world that realize how dependent we all are on electric power. Scary shit when you really think about it.
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Yeah, it doesn't really matter that we will return to the bronze age - everything, and everywhere will have some level of radiation due to global weather patterns, ocean currents and such. world-nuclear-landscape_1500px.jpeg
 
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Some humans would survive, like tribes in countries we call shit holes now.


And the earth would go back to increased bio diversity.

In 100 years, it would be a hunting paradise again.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I got a serious bug up my ass about gaps in my preps lately. The biggest one being a piece of land in a free(er) state. I would gladly watch everything else burn in my rearview mirror once i secure that one.
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I keep looking at my preps and one day, I think I am fine, then I look again and think I need more.

I have my house and I have my land. I just don't have a house and land where I want it to be.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I got a serious bug up my ass about gaps in my preps lately. The biggest one being a piece of land in a free(er) state. I would gladly watch everything else burn in my rearview mirror once i secure that one.
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The prudent thing to do is take inventory of what one has and fill these gaps. Tonight I was searching for a replacement motor on a piece of equipment I have .. I don't need it but thinking about using one on a future project....Cost is over $700 . (shocked me ) and it is not available . (at 4-5 different sites.) Like wow. In the past I have had a blower motor go on my furnace .. I now want to see if I can obtain one for a future failure . I have swapped one out on a weekend before when the temp was around zero. An emergency service call on a weekend would be a lot more than a motor on inventory. . This is my version of being prepared. Last year I had a hot water heater crap out and it took a week to get the replacement. .. Had a stove also die and that took a week .. Was told if it was not on that truck it could have been a month or better for one to come in. This is a situation that one ponders.. How far does one go prepping . Where do you target your money for your best bang.
 
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livingston said:
The prudent thing to do is take inventory of what one has and fill these gaps. Tonight I was searching for a replacement motor on a piece of equipment I have .. I don't need it but thinking about using one on a future project....Cost is over $700 . (shocked me ) and it is not available . (at 4-5 different sites.) Like wow. In the past I have had a blower motor go on my furnace .. I now want to see if I can obtain one for a future failure . I have swapped one out on a weekend before when the temp was around zero. An emergency service call on a weekend would be a lot more than a motor on inventory. . This is my version of being prepared. Last year I had a hot water heater crap out and it took a week to get the replacement. .. Had a stove also die and that took a week .. Was told if it was not on that truck it could have been a month or better for one to come in. This is a situation that one ponders.. How far does one go prepping . Where do you target your money for your best bang.
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Send me the motor nameplate, and i bet I can find it for you tomorrow as long as it isnt a complete oddity.
 
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Send me the motor nameplate, and i bet I can find it for you tomorrow as long as it isnt a complete oddity.
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It is a dayton but $700 is a bit much for me right now. I have a grain mill that at some point I would like to motorize . I just looked it up again and Granger site popped up ... They could have one the end of September ... 750.00 . This is a gear motor 59 rpm . When milling grain if there is too much speed the flour heats up and one starts destroying the integrity of the flour. .. As far as making bread. With the proper pulley system one could slow this mill down a lot. I do have a large flywheel on it now. (hand crank..)
This fellow has done this with same mill .. Motorize it.. Seems to be running pretty fast
 
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livingston said:
It is a dayton but $700 is a bit much for me right now. I have a grain mill that at some point I would like to motorize . I just looked it up again and Granger site popped up ... They could have one the end of September ... 750.00 . This is a gear motor 59 rpm . When milling grain if there is too much speed the flour heats up and one starts destroying the integrity of the flour. .. As far as making bread. With the proper pulley system one could slow this mill down a lot. I do have a large flywheel on it now. (hand crank..)
This fellow has done this with same mill .. Motorize it.. Seems to be running pretty fast
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60 rpm output on a 1,750 rpm 56c motor.

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GOPerfect said:
I keep looking at my preps and one day, I think I am fine, then I look again and think I need more.

I have my house and I have my land. I just don't have a house and land where I want it to be.
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I've got the house and land. Very happy with those choices.

Got a well in the works (we have water from a utility now, but I don't want to rely on their ability to keep half a dozen pumping stations working to get water all the way up the mountain to my ass in an emergency).

Still working on the solar.

Once the water and solar are squared away, we will be in pretty good shape. Still need more food, but that's the easy part.
 
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Good luck with those food buckets. At the end of 30 days you'll be so physically ill from the level of sodium in the ingredients that you'd have been better off starving.
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Just read through all the nutritional values of the meals. Not one has more than 34% of your DV in sodium. Most are around 20% or less.
 
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on the DC motors .. yrs ago where i worked we used them some of the machines to run the table movement in and out from under the press ..
they had a motor controller also so you could very the speed .. low rpm and super high torq .. and they were no bigger then a football if that ..

like the Leeson one you linked to .. .. its been years 25 or so since i worked with them ..

say get one at 100 to 150 rpm and put a DC controller on it and then it could do 5 rmp to the max ..
 
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