Trump just signed an EO protecting the 2a!

Criticalt · Feb 7, 2025

Unfortunately NYS is still our biggest issue.

REF · Feb 7, 2025

Yes, until he goes after states who are obliterating the 2nd amendment this means nothing in NY

ManualF150 · Feb 7, 2025

REF said:
Yes, until he goes after states who are obliterating the 2nd amendment this means nothing in NY

You never know. So far Trump has been doing a phenomenal job.

After all, to be part of the state of the union, you need to follow the rules. Trump can gut the funding to NYS with a swipe of his Sharpie.

As I like to say it... money talks, bullshit walks.

holdover · Feb 7, 2025

Give it time, most of the gun laws are in conflict with the constitution, and theres never been any strict scrutiny done before the laws were enacted .

The constitution is the supreme law of the land and supercedes state laws if they are in conflict. they restrict the rights of self defense which every human has a birth right to . Its not Hoculs place to say

Acer-m14 · Feb 7, 2025

holdover said:
Give it time, ~~most~~ of the gun laws are in conflict with the constitution,

..... ALL

4WHLDRFTN · Feb 7, 2025

holdover · Feb 8, 2025

Federal Court Declares Machine Gun Ban Unconstitutional

In a major ruling out of the Southern District of Mississippi, Judge Carlton Reeves has struck down the federal machine gun ban as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.The case, United States v.Brown, follows the framework established by the Supreme Court in New York State Rifle & Pistol...

www.thefirearmblog.com

holdover · Feb 8, 2025

Yeah but then crime would go down. LE budgets would eventually shrink

Criticalt · Feb 8, 2025

holdover said:
Give it time, most of the gun laws are in conflict with the constitution, and theres never been any strict scrutiny done before the laws were enacted .

The constitution is the supreme law of the land and supercedes state laws if they are in conflict. they restrict the rights of self defense which every human has a birth right to . Its not Hoculs place to say

After the Bruin decision, the CCIA made getting and keeping guns far more difficult in much of the state. I don't need to mention what happened after the Heller decision...a complete insult to the SCOTUS and the 2nd. A decision that says you cannot ban guns, but a few years later and Cuomo makes all MSR owners felons. I know the SafeAct is not a gun ban, but some believe it is. A couple people I know were waiting for their permits during Bruen....in which the decision says everyone can carry a gun. Well, after the CCIA, the court contacted my friends and said now you need 16 hours of training and spend $300 more.
Until the SCOTUS grows some teeth, their decisions mean little to NYS.
We really, really, seriously need to understand that the courts are NOT going to save us.
The states have too much power over our rights and very powerful lawyers and endless tax money to come up with loopholes and work around.
This isn't new. This has been happening sinse the very late 1700s. The court's make a decision and states make a work around law.
It can take decades to get MSRs, magazines, threaded barrels, suppressors......all "legal".
The SCOTUS can't do it all in one case.

libertysnake · Feb 8, 2025

4WHLDRFTN said:

So, let me get this straight. This guy is scared now... but none of these other states really gave a damn when NY took away our rights. "Just move." The typical "I don't have any family there so I don't give a shit about my countrymen."

Maybe these fair weather patriots in other states should start sticking up against unconstitutional stuff wherever it is so it cannot set a precedent. Because once it's OK in one state then it's going to be an easy jump to a federal level when SCOTUS allows it.

Vapor · Feb 8, 2025

I moved and I don't regret it. I have a bunch of handguns now and my rifles don't look funny. I still hope for the best that someday NY will be forced to change. It sucks I was forced out of my homeland by the nonsense.

I vote and encourage others to do so to keep my state the way it is.

I have seen a burning and seething hatred by some for those of us who moved. Why? I can only assume jealousy.

Criticalt · Feb 8, 2025

Vapor said:
I moved and I don't regret it. I have a bunch of handguns now and my rifles don't look funny. I still hope for the best that someday NY will be forced to change. It sucks I was forced out of my homeland by the nonsense.

I vote and encourage others to do so to keep my state the way it is.

I have seen a burning and seething hatred by some for those of us who moved. Why? I can only assume jealousy.

For some maybe it's jealousy.
I personally don't care where someone lives.
I'm not leaving because my family has owned this land for 180 years and built a half dozen very successful business's.
I will stay here and I'd much rather not comply than move.
I could move anywhere tomorrow, but I'm not gonna!!

FP1201 · Feb 8, 2025

libertysnake said:
So, let me get this straight. This guy is scared now... but none of these other states really gave a damn when NY took away our rights. "Just move." The typical "I don't have any family there so I don't give a shit about my countrymen."

Maybe these fair weather patriots in other states should start sticking up against unconstitutional stuff wherever it is so it cannot set a precedent. Because once it's OK in one state then it's going to be an easy jump to a federal level when SCOTUS allows it.

"Charity starts at Home". Ever stop to ponder that phrase?
We cry a lot, but do little about it besides bitch to our neighbors or move elsewhere.

When the NYSRPA v. Bruen Suit was going on, NYSRPA received more in donations from OUTSIDE the State than from its own, and that "Doesn't do anything for New Yorker's" NRA funded in excess of two million Dollars (Thanks in part to Wayne La Pierre) and logistical support.
I realize NYS fucked over gun owners and would be owners, that conditions are worse now in the State, but that's not because the State was taken to task, it was retribution for opposing the dictatorial State Legislature and Governor.

There are several suits SCOTUS is considering Relisting and if granted Cert and a favorable ruling, NY will have to do some incredible gymnastics to get past it. In a slew of new cases, the justices take in closer look - SCOTUSblog

The Big Gun Cases Before SCOTUS

In 2024, the Supreme Court is set to decide three cases that could have major ramifications for how guns are regulated in the United States. These cases involve a law designed to protect domestic violence victims, a Trump-era ban on machine gun conversion devices, and the free speech rights of...

www.thetrace.org

Vapor · Feb 8, 2025

Criticalt said:
For some maybe it's jealousy.
I personally don't care where someone lives.
I'm not leaving because my family has owned this land for 180 years and built a half dozen very successful business's.
I will stay here and I'd much rather not comply rather than move.
I could move anywhere tomorrow, but I'm not gonna!!

Nothing wrong with that, but you're also not calling me a POS for moving like some.

Old Jalopy · Feb 8, 2025

Vapor said:
I moved and I don't regret it. I have a bunch of handguns now and my rifles don't look funny. I still hope for the best that someday NY will be forced to change. It sucks I was forced out of my homeland by the nonsense.

I vote and encourage others to do so to keep my state the way it is.

I have seen a burning and seething hatred by some for those of us who moved. Why? I can only assume jealousy.

Vapor said:
Nothing wrong with that, but you're also not calling me a POS for moving like some.

For what it's worth, I personally say good for you for leaving. I'd bet it wasn't easy to leave everything behind, but you did it. My wife's family and work keep us here. If not for that, I'd have been gone years ago.

Bigfoot · Feb 8, 2025

Vapor said:
Nothing wrong with that, but you're also not calling me a POS for moving like some.

I wish all of you who have moved out of NY the best of luck. I'm glad many of you still stay active on this forum.

Some call it running, but I call it searching, searching for a better quality of life.
And I certainly see nothing wrong with that.

I wasn't even born and raised here in NY. I came here to NY voluntarily back in 1989-90.
Now I can't get the fuck out... :banghead:

It's so frustrating.

Vapor · Feb 8, 2025

Old Jalopy said:
For what it's worth, I personally say good for you for leaving. I'd bet it wasn't easy to leave everything behind, but you did it. My wife's family and work keep us here. If not for that, I'd have been gone years ago.

I only moved like an hour and a half away from home, but I had to leave living close to where my Mother was recently buried. That was/is hard. I feel like a bad son I don't go visit the grave more.

Old Jalopy · Feb 8, 2025

Vapor said:
I only moved like an hour and a half away from home, but I had to leave living close to where my Mother was recently buried. That was/is hard. I feel like a bad son I don't go visit the grave more.

I actually understand that 100%. We recently moved from about an hour away from my moms grave to a bit over 2 hours.

Vapor · Feb 8, 2025

Old Jalopy said:
I actually understand that 100%. We recently moved from about an hour away from my moms grave to a bit over 2 hours.

Does it ever get easier? It's like a dagger every holiday and event that goes by

FP1201 · Feb 8, 2025

Bigfoot said:
I wish all of you who have moved out of NY the best of luck. I'm glad many of you still stay active on this forum.

Some call it running, but I call it searching, searching for a better quality of life.
And I certainly see nothing wrong with that.

I wasn't even born and raised here in NY. I came here to NY voluntarily back in 1989-90.
Now I can't get the fuck out...
It's so frustrating.

Uncle Sam sent me here in Feb of '87 with the uniforms I was issued and the change of Clothes from when I arrived at Basic Training. 38 years later I have built a fine Family, own everything we have free and clear, am well know and respected through the community, never been in any more trouble than a speeding ticket when it was 55mph...much as I detest being told what I can and can't own, needing the State's permission, and paying more than I feel we should, damned if I'm going to just give up...Our saving grace is how far we're away from the Flag Pole in Albany.

Old Jalopy · Feb 9, 2025

Vapor said:
Does it ever get easier? It's like a dagger every holiday and event that goes by

I feel it depends on the person, really.

Old Jalopy · Feb 10, 2025

I got to thinking about this whole thing. While he may not be able to make an EO to restore full rights to everyone on the spot (he could, but....), he could have made this EO to suspend all state restrictions while an investigation was made into who is and isn't in violation of our 2A rights. It may end up in front of SCOTUS, but would likely not get overturned, as the court may hold off judgment or opinion until the investigation was completed. Which, after an investigation if it was legitimate, would revoke and repeal gun laws in large. So wouldn't it have made more sense to go that route, then just issue and order to issue further orders?

4WHLDRFTN · Feb 10, 2025

Old Jalopy said:
I got to thinking about this whole thing. While he may not be able to make an EO to restore full rights to everyone on the spot (he could, but....), he could have made this EO to suspend all state restrictions while an investigation was made into who is and isn't in violation of our 2A rights. It may end up in front of SCOTUS, but would likely not get overturned, as the court may hold off judgment or opinion until the investigation was completed. Which, after an investigation if it was legitimate, would revoke and repeal gun laws in large. So wouldn't it have made more sense to go that route, then just issue and order to issue further orders?

Dang. Give it a couple. There’s a method to his madness, .. He just needs some Kash.

Old Jalopy · Feb 10, 2025

4WHLDRFTN said:
Dang. Give it a couple. There’s a method to his madness, .. He just needs some Kash.

After decades of madness I just want to see some changes without the dancing around. I was thinking out loud with my comment in post 24.

Zerex · Feb 10, 2025

Never listenb ti that link dumb ass.....................he is grifting and usually posts ancient news.................do not let him get paid................SCOTUS rules the roost.............

NICS are here forever.

goldie · Feb 10, 2025

It doesnt help this state, and others,like Massachusits, cant even buy a friggin 10/22 there anymore....

Old Jalopy · Mar 5, 2025

Times almost up, and we got nothing.

Beerman · Mar 5, 2025

Old Jalopy said:
Times almost up, and we got nothing.

You’ll get what you get, and you’ll like it. And, by the way, we will get nothing. Well, maybe some more smoke blown up our mag wells, but no real, tangible restoration or preservation of our right “to keep and bear.” Same old, same old.

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