Hochul signs new gun laws

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CC data on purchase types is logged on the bank statement, by your bank if the retailer does not post one.

I buy items all across the country on Ebasy, and my inet bank statment record, says what is was.

There is a bill in Congress to prohibit the collection of data like Hochul wants.

If you have a CCP in NYS and buy no ammo.......................you will be red flagged and go to jail.. as a terrorist.

There is no need in a communist state, to own any weapons or ammo at all, as it is a direct threat to the proletariat, the Politburo and the Chairman/Leader.
 
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Zerex said:
If you have a CCP in NYS and buy no ammo.......................you will be red flagged and go to jail.. as a terrorist.
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Got a link to evidence of this happening? I ask because I always bust my friends balls about having 3 hand guns for over 30 yrs and still has the same ammo for most of that time.
 
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Cooolone said:
This is so much NY programming it isn't even funny! Want to talk about secondary sale/transfers? How many states, especially those free states do not require ANY paperwork, no involvement of a LGS or BGC, etc. So what are they tracking? Also, FFL's are only required to process the FEDERAL BGC where required. And Google doesn't have access to that, if paying cash! No State requirements to record the sales transaction, serial # or purchaser! You walk into a LGS purchase a handgun, pass the BGC, pay and you're on your way. That's it!

The problem here is the bad 70's movie dystopian nanny State moronic ridiculousness that wants to watch you're every move! Basically prescribing that you only Live by Permission in all aspects of your life, even those funny little things identified as Rights! Albeit selectively as the 2nd gets the most attention!



Yes yes yes! Winner winner chicken dinner!

You cannot see inside the pickle barrel until you escape it and look back ... And it's grotesque!!!

I told the story here, about a few years ago when the wife and I were driving around town and exploring whether or not we liked the area (NC). I slammed on the brakes and my wife looked at me like I was nuts as there was no cause in the roadway for this. But I pointed to her a sign on the side of a business, which was a LGS, and it said "AR-15 Sale - $495" hahahahahahahaha... I was lmao! And it certainly helped (me) make my decision right there.



Egregious "Search" absent Probable Cause is a serious violation of a person's Right(s). But these fuckers in NYS don't give a shit about anyone or their Rights, except for those fucking criminal migrants, rapist, drug dealers and others! The State wishes to create and atmosphere of fear and intimidation in order to control the masses in the worst way possible, by making law abiding citizens criminals at every turn...

"The ultimate inversion is when the Gov't gets to do whatever they want, and citizens only live by permission"... Someone said that almost 100 years ago and she was clairvoyant! And things weren't nearly as insane as they are right now in these 9 states (consistently) that continually infringe upon citizens Rights in a smothering atmosphere that weighs heavy upon all those who wish to exercise their Right(s). Live "Freely" my ass...

I'm wondering why, these States, let alone NY, are not smothered in return, with lawsuits. The fact that some 29 States now recognize Constitutional or Permitless Carry and DO NOT have issues being used as a basis for demonstration of malfeasance towards those who exercise their 2A Right is astounding!... Anyways, it's all good! NY NY...

Have a great day folks!
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We can buy guns (shotgun, rifle, and pistol) at flea markets and garage sales here in Free America; that took a LOT of getting used to, being a former resident of a communist nanny state.
 
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Mr. terzmo said:
And none of the gun rights organizations, that I used to donate to, take any initiative to fight in NY. NY is a litigation sanctuary state. Even the Trumpster in his first term did zip to restore Constitutional rights in Ny. I haven’t heard anything about actions in regards to this so far in his young second term. Gun owners in NY Must be in the Guinness book of records for all the time we are bent over and holding our ankles.
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100% agree. They might do a hearing in a lower court, but rarely go higher. The NRA is the worst! Sorry, but it's true. They can pay their people 6 figures and buy them nice trucks and cars to drive around on the donations from NY, but stand up for those who donate and do what they are paid to do? Nope. Bruen was a fluke, and most people know it.
 
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FP1201 said:
As far as "Pistol Converters" (parts to make a Firearm capable of full-auto fire) perhaps it was that NY had no way to prosecute and needed another charge to work into a plea-bargain which the DA's tout as a "win" at re-election time, unless it's raise the age and they don't get any meaningful punishment....Federally, that "switch" IS a "Machine Gun" and a felony with harsh penalties, should the Government be so inclined to build and prosecute a Case, and unless the defendant has lots of money or prominence in criminal enterprises they're not going to want to be bothered.
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The switch argument is BS in general. "Glock knows people illegally make parts that change the function to do illegal things". Well anyone can make parts to change the function of any machine. It's common sense and Glock really has no way to prevent someone from modifying the gun after sale since it's not in their possession. Also, it's not a company's job to prevent people from committing crimes.

If that's the standard then GM knows people drive drunk and they've done nothing to prevent it so they're responsible for drunk drivers now, right?

Holding a manufacturer liable for other people's actions that they are neither encouraging or promoting through intention of design is ridiculous.
 
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What can someone expect from such a law? Are they just added to a list? Does the NYSP show up at your house? Are you investigated?
This does not affect me due to reasons, but....
Just my wife and I can go through 500 rounds in a sitting. We sometimes shoot several times a week. Where I buy ammo in a far off land, they don't even blink when we buy 5000 rounds. We have been known to need a cart to get our ammo to the checkout.
We are the farthest thing from tactical or even really avid gun people.
We are just redneck plinkers with a few firearms. Our long guns consist of shotguns, wood stock hunting rifles and a 10/22. Our handguns are 50% FUDD revolvers.
We are as generic and vanilla as can be.
So again, how are the authorities going to weed out the bad guys without investigating every single country plinker?
 
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5.2 million gun owners in NYS.

43,000 registered AW's; 23,000 registered AW owners. Probably at least a million handgun owners.; many have not re certified, as many died, moved, or did not know.

Lots of home visits necessary.
 
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HIghlander said:
Get a Visa one of the other Debit Cards at Wally World, or any location that sells them. No Customer name. Just pay and load with cash.
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Good thinking. Soon you’ll need to scan your license to get these. I wonder if the shipping address is reported though.
 
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What can someone expect from such a law? Are they just added to a list? Does the NYSP show up at your house? Are you investigated?
This does not affect me due to reasons, but....
Just my wife and I can go through 500 rounds in a sitting. We sometimes shoot several times a week. Where I buy ammo in a far off land, they don't even blink when we buy 5000 rounds. We have been known to need a cart to get our ammo to the checkout.
We are the farthest thing from tactical or even really avid gun people.
We are just redneck plinkers with a few firearms. Our long guns consist of shotguns, wood stock hunting rifles and a 10/22. Our handguns are 50% FUDD revolvers.
We are as generic and vanilla as can be.
So again, how are the authorities going to weed out the bad guys without investigating every single country plinker?
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You have guns therefore you’re bad. I hope this clears it up for you.
I bought some ar’s because they told me i shouldn’t have them and were making it harder to get them and I had the cash to do so. I’m sure they think I’m bad but I shoot them a few times per year and that’s it. One I hunt with but the rest of the time they are locked behind steel. Again same as you how will they determine I’m a threat by what I buy? Social media was overturned maybe this will to but I doubt it.
 
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I find it amusing that the orders I'm placing for ammunition (that I won't have to do a BGC for) is being paid for with Pre-Paid Visa Cards from the State with no names attached...NYS Treats me as a Pirate with Prior Restraint, therefor a Pirate I shall be.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I formulated a lawsuit against NY(SP Superintendent) today for 2A violations as an out of state resident with a 2nd home in NY. Not sure how to proceed yet. I definitely can't afford to go it alone.
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You`re gonna need others (with endless money) to get on this lawsuit with you, or it will be pointless, and leave you bankrupted.
 
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thughes said:
We can buy guns (shotgun, rifle, and pistol) at flea markets and garage sales here in Free America; that took a LOT of getting used to, being a former resident of a communist nanny state.
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Flea Market in Alabama is better than most Gun Shows!
Sad part is the self questioning "if I buy this will I get arrested when I go back home?"
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I formulated a lawsuit against NY(SP Superintendent) today for 2A violations as an out of state resident with a 2nd home in NY. Not sure how to proceed yet. I definitely can't afford to go it alone.
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Get in touch with Mike Spencer from the church lawsuit that was just won (Horseheads NY).
He may be able to guide you to some people that would be interested, and might throw some ideas your way.

Mike Spencer
16 Level Acres Dr,
Horseheads, NY 14845
(607) 739-5196
 
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Your Honor ,

Due to the Bruen v NYSRPA ruling we have to look at the text of the 2nd Admendment.

If you look closely the following words do not appear, Legal Gun Owner .

We do not need to progress into the history or tradition.
 
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