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Should Vance or Thune fire/replace Senate Parilementarian Elizabeth MacDonough?

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First the judges and now this. I have heard of this position before but I thought it had to deal with the rules of how a bill passes a vote. Now it appears the Democrats have found another way for unelected people to exercise power and thwart plans of those that were elected. Just more back alley, power at all costs move by a party out of control. Since when can this position unilaterally decide what can and cannot go into a piece of legislation?

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The BBB hasn't been "killed" (I like the clickbait thread title though). I believe this is part of the "does this pass the Byrd test and belong in a Reconcilliation Bill" process, and was expected to some extent. Many knew there were a few "grey" items that may not past muster but they went for it anyway (gotta try, right?).

The good news is that the Short Act (SBS) and the Hearing Protection Act (suppressors) appear to have passed the test.
 
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The article says the parliamentarian said it wouldn’t pass but then also said it violated rules. Kind of saving money violates rules unless they are trying to pass laws in a spending bill. Oh wait NYS does that all the time.
Republicans feel they can reword the bill and get it passed. Medicaid is a hot button topic and it sure they can shove it through.
 
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livingston said:

MASSIVE BREAKING JUST NOW: NFA REMOVAL BLOCKED BY SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES...​


The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that Suppressors, SBRs, and Short-Barrel Shotguns cannot be removed from the NFA by reconciliation. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses...
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Will they tell Hochul the same? I know it’s different because state and federal but NYS passes laws with budgets all the time.
 
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livingston said:

MASSIVE BREAKING JUST NOW: NFA REMOVAL BLOCKED BY SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES...​


The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that Suppressors, SBRs, and Short-Barrel Shotguns cannot be removed from the NFA by reconciliation. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses...
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This is my shocked face :eek:.
 
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the Parliamentarians did the same thing to Biden...................rulz is rulez.

Budget reconciliation cannot have policy changes...........that requires 60 votes to accomplish.

Silencers not banned.........same as before............
 
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Zerex said:
the Parliamentarians did the same thing to Biden...................rulz is rulez.

Budget reconciliation cannot have policy changes...........that requires 60 votes to accomplish.

Silencers not banned.........same as before............
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This is a tax issue, ruled on by SCOTUS as so, how is it not a budget item?
 
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Parliamentarian generally rules......................politicians hate silencers, SBR's, Ghost Guns, AW's, MG's............think not?
blue states ban them all.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
Let's see if Musk keeps his promise and launches the America Party tomorrow.
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3rd parties in Modern America have always failed to get the traction to compete against the two dominant parties. That is why the Socialist and MAGA have taken over the dominate parties. Otherwise they cannot compete against the behemoths.
 
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You can't vote your way out of communism. Based on the actions of our government and our currently laws, and recent cases where the government works against the wishes of the people. Someone explain to me how we are not currently under communist law.
 
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dsdmmat said:
3rd parties in Modern America have always failed to get the traction to compete against the two dominant parties. That is why the Socialist and MAGA have taken over the dominate parties. Otherwise they cannot compete against the behemoths.
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