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FP1201 said:
I had a Wildey in .45 Win Mag. and it wasn't bad to shoot, didn't hit as hard as the .454 Casull, but certainly a hell of a lot harder than the Desert Eagle in .44 mag. We had a LAR Grizzly in .45wm come into the Shop: I popped off a few rounds just because it was there, and it's a handful as well. I just remembered having an AMT Automag in .44automag and it was about the same as the Wildey.

10mm is my all time favorite overall Pistol Cartridge, and I have it in three Delta Elites...and should they come along at an opportune time and price I would like a Sig or maybe S&W in 10mm.
.460Roland is a snotbox, be sure to put 22 pound plus Springs in it, no experience with .45 Super, but I expect it's right there with the Roland.

I love big bore Handguns and have/had plenty of them, but here of late I've regressed to 9mm's and 38/357's

I've got one of the Sig p250's in 9mm...never shot it.

.38 Super is what 9mm wants to be...slightly bigger rim than 9mm: Bought a Tisis 9mm 1911 tore it down, installed a few high speed-low drag parts and a .38 Super Barrel; went to chamber a test dummy, wouldn't guide up the slide face and that's when I remembered the ten thousandths or so difference....SHIT! put the 9mm barrel back on it, still haven't shot that one either....gotta change that!
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Probably needed the extractor tuned. I would take the extractor out and see if the super case fits in the breech face (bet it will) then tune the extractor.
 
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Podmonkey said:
I have an 11 peg hangun rack in my safe and currently own an M&P Carry Comp, and M&P shield Plus, a S&W 340PD, a S&W Wesson 586 L-Comp a Ruger Mk IV Hunter and now the Colt Competition 1911.
The Mk IV doesn't fit on the pegs and goes in 1 of 4 nylon holster pouches hung on the safe door. This leaves me 6 pegs and 3 door pouches to fill and I WANT to fill them all. What should I get next?

Guns on my personal short list are a Shadow 2 Csrry for a quality production DA/SA, a PDP Pro-X to further my desire factory comp'd pistols and some more revolvers of some kind, a .44 Mag at some point.
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BFR in 45/70.

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I've been a Beretta fan-boy for decades, but some of the stuff they've brought to market just wasn't appealing....at all...still, if I were living in the area, I would try to get a job with them just to get an employee discount and inside track on better than retailed guns.
 
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Podmonkey said:
Whatever I get next I think it will be different from what I have now. So a poly/striker in 9mm is not very likely to ve selected next. However a 10mm might. I do have a an M&P 10 on the list and also a USP which would be a good companion to the 1911. I am also toying with the idea of having 4 1911s in the collection. The Colt I have now, one setup for .45 Super, one setup for .460 Rowland with the cherry on top being an LAR Grizzly Mk1 in .45 Win Mag. I checked a few auction sights, LARs can be had for around 3.5k.
The Shadow 2 Carry is kinda leading the way at the moment, I currently have no DA/SA guns.
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Just picked up an S&W 10mm this weekend. Doing a range trip next weekend so will be interesting to see if it lives up to the hype.

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That_FNG said:
Just picked up an S&W 10mm this weekend. Doing a range trip next weekend so will be interesting to see if it lives up to the hype.

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That particular gun is definitely on the list. I'm thinking I might plump for the Performance Center model, mostly because I think the compensator looks cool.
I have read you might need to go to a heavier recoil spring for reliable function in those and if that doesn't work people claim upgrading the magazine springs might be necessary. Sounds like in factory configuration the slide cycle ls too quickly for reliable feeding. Then again I have also read the basic full size M&P 10 doesn't have these problems so much as the other versions, namely the compact model.
Personally I would REALLY like to see a Carry Comp version of this.
 
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Podmonkey said:
That particular gun is definitely on the list. I'm thinking I might plump for the Performance Center model, mostly because I think the compensator looks cool.
I have read you might need to go to a heavier recoil spring for reliable function in those and if that doesn't work people claim upgrading the magazine springs might be necessary. Sounds like in factory configuration the slide cycle ls too quickly for reliable feeding. Then again I have also read the basic full size M&P 10 doesn't have these problems so much as the other versions, namely the compact model.
Personally I would REALLY like to see a Carry Comp version of this.
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When the gun launched 3 years ago there was some 4.6” and quite a few 4” models that had problems. Swapping out recoil springs and mag springs seemed to help but not always. In the last 1.5 years the complaints seemed to have dried up which makes me think S&W got the issues sorted. I decided to roll the dice and went with the 4.6” as it seemed to offer the best chance. If the gun can’t get thru the first 200 rounds without major issues then I will say the problems are sorted out. Otherwise I won’t be keeping it. Next weekend is going to be a range trip. I cleaned and lubricated it per the owners manual to give it the best shot.
 
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The LAR Grizzly Mk I has become something of a grail gun for me. Totally impractical with expensive, hard to find ammo but I still want one.
 
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That_FNG said:
When the gun launched 3 years ago there was some 4.6” and quite a few 4” models that had problems. Swapping out recoil springs and mag springs seemed to help but not always. In the last 1.5 years the complaints seemed to have dried up which makes me think S&W got the issues sorted. I decided to roll the dice and went with the 4.6” as it seemed to offer the best chance. If the gun can’t get thru the first 200 rounds without major issues then I will say the problems are sorted out. Otherwise I won’t be keeping it. Next weekend is going to be a range trip. I cleaned and lubricated it per the owners manual to give it the best shot.
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I don't know about the M&P but for 1911'a in 10mm you can get varying weight springs and "tune" your Pistol to what it likes...the original Norma 200gr 1,200fps stuff behaves a whole lot different than say a box of American Eagle 180 grain...at one time I was shooting lots of cast bullets that I worked up a load for, matched a spring, and the empties would land inside a five gallon bucket all day long, which is very satisfying in itself (and you don't have to hunt for those last few cases that can never be found)
 
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FP1201 said:
I don't know about the M&P but for 1911'a in 10mm you can get varying weight springs and "tune" your Pistol to what it likes...the original Norma 200gr 1,200fps stuff behaves a whole lot different than say a box of American Eagle 180 grain...at one time I was shooting lots of cast bullets that I worked up a load for, matched a spring, and the empties would land inside a five gallon bucket all day long, which is very satisfying in itself (and you don't have to hunt for those last few cases that can never be found)
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With 1911’s you can do that as they have locking lugs and recoil spring plus hammer spring. With a gun like an M&P or a Glock they only have a recoil springs and no locking lugs and no hammer springs. Thus if you mess with the recoil spring you run the risk of the slide opening before it should. Essentially with a 1911 it’s a balancing act between the springs.
 
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That_FNG said:
With 1911’s you can do that as they have locking lugs and recoil spring plus hammer spring. With a gun like an M&P or a Glock they only have a recoil springs and no locking lugs and no hammer springs. Thus if you mess with the recoil spring you run the risk of the slide opening before it should. Essentially with a 1911 it’s a balancing act between the springs.
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Striker fired guns, such as those you lost here, most certainly do have locking lugs.
The barrel hood/chamber itself is the locking lug which locks into the ejection port of the slide. I'd also argue the the fixed camming underlug what interfaces with the cam block in the frame has more friction than the 1911 swinging link setup which probably also provides its own delaying function in yhe action.
I don't think the locking lug(s) in either design provide any significant delaying function to the system in any case.
 
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