Hochul vetoes bipartisan bill for EV fire training for first responders

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Assemblyman Steve Hawley (R, C-Batavia) on Monday criticized Gov. Kathy Hochul's decision to veto bipartisan legislation that would have required the state to develop emergency response training for first responders dealing with electric vehicle fires and related incidents.

Hawley critical of Hochul's veto of bill dealing EV fire training for first responders

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"The governor is spending billions on green energy mandates but can't find the resources to protect the men and women responding to EV fires?" Hawley said. "The government's priorities are completely upside down. If the state insists on accelerating EV adoption, it has a responsibility to make sure our emergency responders are fully prepared."
 
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She doesn't want to draw attention to such an issue as she is trying to force electric buses on the schools. She would rather see Johnny burn up in 2.5 seconds.
 
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It’s not about saving the POS cars
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I know, neither was I.
Cops/firemen can only get to the location so fast, so few lives in a vehicle will be saved.
I'm talking about the fireman being safe; the manufacturers of the batteries, the manufacturers of the vehicles, should provide the training if only in a video.
IF the manufacturers had fire suppression built in the battery, would help.
Water, foam, has a hard time getting into a sealed box stuffed behind a super structure.
I see no need for tax dollars being spent.
Let them burn, over humans.
 
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fresch said:
I know, neither was I.
Cops/firemen can only get to the location so fast, so few lives in a vehicle will be saved.
I'm talking about the fireman being safe; the manufacturers of the batteries, the manufacturers of the vehicles, should provide the training if only in a video.
IF the manufacturers had fire suppression built in the battery, would help.
Water, foam, has a hard time getting into a sealed box stuffed behind a super structure.
I see no need for tax dollars being spent.
Let them burn, over humans.
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I think the concern is more about using the jaws of life to cut a piller that may (probably) have a electrical cable running through it. 600 amps will ruin your day in less than a heartbeat. Nobody cares about the car. Bring marshmallows and a long stick. It's trying to save a trapped person that the training is needed for.
 
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Tisto said:
I think the concern is more about using the jaws of life to cut a piller that may (probably) have a electrical cable running through it. 600 amps will ruin your day in less than a heartbeat. Nobody cares about the car. Bring marshmallows and a long stick. It's trying to save a trapped person that the training is needed for.
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I think a 257 Billion industry can foot the bills not the tax payer.
The manufacturers need to provide the fire suppression internally; we have all kinds of tech in cars now that are unneeded, fire suppression should be part of the Li battery pak or stop selling them. That goes for any Li battery, bike, nicotine stick, etc., something like expanding foam retardant.
As far as cutting cables, do all electric cars route in the same location?
Put a disconnect switch in the old gas door then.
What would running ~600A in a door piller be for, wouldn't A more direct route be from battery pak to control pak to motors be as short as possible and low in the frame; with only low voltage/current control and accessory cables in the higher pillers?
I never looked up the wiring diagram but the bottom line is keep the costly stuff to the shortest possible.
 
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Let them burn
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If it were just the cars...sure. Get the people out and let it burn.

But it's not always just the car. It could also include a house, the neighbor's house, the forest, a parking garage, a hospital, etc.

Firefighters should be trained to deal with this, as they train to deal with other scenario. Yes it would be nice if the manufacturers who make this shit were required to produce training information. But either way I would rather see our firefighters trained than have them trying the wrong things and getting hurt.
 
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