The next round of 2nd Amend assaults 12 2025

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So this here part I'm not sure I'm being fairly represented , "
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM-
BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: "
 
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10 waiting period? You can't get a permit in under that time in NY
.50 cal? Just following other Blue states with this.
Liability insurance? Interesting idea. Are we going to require that for 1st amendment riots?

Common sense be damned. Obviously all will pass. :beer:
 
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I wonder if that "fair market value" is determined by the same fucktards that decide what's fair under imminent domain?
Going to pay for the ammunition and/or components as well? Of course not.
 
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It’s not just a .50 cal ban. It’s anything .50 cal or larger or any firearm that obtains a muzzle angry of 12,000 foot pounds or greater.
They are doing this because there is no practical purpose for these and how dangerous they are. I’ll bet there hasn’t been 10 crimes committed with a .50 cal weapon in the USA.
Of course you can register these guns as well. Registration, registration, registration. More and more background checks and registrations required in this state. Anyone else get the impression they want an all encompassing database of gun owners in NYS? One has to ask why. We should all know why.
Whats next. Oh and by the way me telling my rep I don’t agree with this is not worth my time. He’s very liberal.
Jokes on them. Barrett .50 cal BMG is only 11,489 ft lbs at the muzzle. The law says 12,000 ft lbs or more.
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It's not just the .50 BMG. They'll have your .50 Beowulf on that list of banned guns, and that won't be all. .500 Jeffries, .505 Gibbs, .50 AE, .500 S&W, .50-90, .50-70, Shall I continue ?

This same bill has been introduced every year for as long as I can remember. It never makes it out of Rules. Let's hope it goes nowhere this year as well.

I'm certain that if it does in fact pass, there will be thousands of people lining up to register their guns..... maybe not. Much like the AW registry, I suspect most will quietly give Albany half a peace sign and go about their business.

This is, in fact, an ineffective solution to a non-existent problem, dreamed up by over-inflated egomaniacs drunk with far too much power already.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
It’s not just a .50 cal ban. It’s anything .50 cal or larger or any firearm that obtains a muzzle angry of 12,000 foot pounds or greater.
They are doing this because there is no practical purpose for these and how dangerous they are. I’ll bet there hasn’t been 10 crimes committed with a .50 cal weapon in the USA.
Of course you can register these guns as well. Registration, registration, registration. More and more background checks and registrations required in this state. Anyone else get the impression they want an all encompassing database of gun owners in NYS? One has to ask why. We should all know why.
Whats next. Oh and by the way me telling my rep I don’t agree with this is not worth my time. He’s very liberal.
Jokes on them. Barrett .50 cal BMG is only 11,489 ft lbs at the muzzle. The law says 12,000 ft lbs or more.
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These politicians saw too many movies where some ex-military guy that was burned by the Gov't and just wants to be left alone, but the Fed's F with him and he becomes a one man death squad. Then he winds up shooting a helicopter out of the sky with a .50, and takes out an armored limo being used by the Governor or some Senator.
They see this shit, and it scares the F out of them, thinking it could be them. Of course, they're FAR more likely to get stabbed in the neck than to be the target of a 1200 yard sniper.
Funny thing, if they weren't always trying to clamp down on people's rights, they wouldn't be a target.
 
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RedBreast21 said:
10 waiting period? You can't get a permit in under that time in NY
.50 cal? Just following other Blue states with this.
Liability insurance? Interesting idea. Are we going to require that for 1st amendment riots?

Common sense be damned. Obviously all will pass. :beer:
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The real question about liability insurance is:
"Didn't NY already outlaw liability insurance ?"

Are they going to mandate something they already prohibited ?
 
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Saltwater60 said:
It’s not just a .50 cal ban. It’s anything .50 cal or larger or any firearm that obtains a muzzle angry of 12,000 foot pounds or greater.
They are doing this because there is no practical purpose for these and how dangerous they are. I’ll bet there hasn’t been 10 crimes committed with a .50 cal weapon in the USA.
Of course you can register these guns as well. Registration, registration, registration. More and more background checks and registrations required in this state. Anyone else get the impression they want an all encompassing database of gun owners in NYS? One has to ask why. We should all know why.
Whats next. Oh and by the way me telling my rep I don’t agree with this is not worth my time. He’s very liberal.
Jokes on them. Barrett .50 cal BMG is only 11,489 ft lbs at the muzzle. The law says 12,000 ft lbs or more.
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Ftlbs is from the ammo, not the rifle anyway.

"I just download my 20mm Lhati L-39 to 1500fps and it good to go".

Oh, that other 20x138 ammo isn't for the rifle, it's just for the collection value.

I do have to say I really appreciate the "muzzle angry" typo. That should be an official unit of measure.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
They are doing this because there is no practical purpose for these and how dangerous they are.
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There is a very significant practical purpose to a 50-cal, which dovetails very nicely with the original purpose of the 2A.

Tisto said:
and takes out an armored limo being used by the Governor or some Senator.
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This is the best example of why The People NEED 50-cal rifles. When a politician becomes tyrannical and all other means of redress are exhausted...

Tisto said:
They see this shit, and it scares the F out of them
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If they are misbehaving they SHOULD be scared. Honor your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, fairly represent the people who live in your area, DON'T BE A CRIMINAL, and you wouldn't have anything to fear.
Such a hard concept, I guess.
 
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I got a text from a buddy to flip on the local news. So I reluctantly did so. The complete DB hypocrite left have once again spewed shit that made me sick. The idiots are stating how appalled they are at Trump for shutting down the borders after the assault on our military on our soil. Declaring that the masses should not be punished for the crimes of just one person. Are you F****** kidding me! Those ass hats do that to gun owners every chance they get. I'm not sure these bills will pass, but it just shows the threat is becoming a reality. I swear I want out of this shithole of a state, but family stuff keeps us here.
 
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Grimscale said:
There is a very significant practical purpose to a 50-cal, which dovetails very nicely with the original purpose of the 2A.



This is the best example of why The People NEED 50-cal rifles. When a politician becomes tyrannical and all other means of redress are exhausted...


If they are misbehaving they SHOULD be scared. Honor your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, fairly represent the people who live in your area, DON'T BE A CRIMINAL, and you wouldn't have anything to fear.
Such a hard concept, I guess.
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Their term on it not being a meaningful weapon not mine. I don’t care why people want guns. I don’t think I’d ever have one or afford one but if you want 22 of them great. I think people should be able to have any weapons they want if they aren’t violent felons. If you want an M-16 with a grenade launcher to take down trees o don’t have an issue with that.
 
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spat said:
The real question about liability insurance is:
"Didn't NY already outlaw liability insurance ?"

Are they going to mandate something they already prohibited ?
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Or something only they sell or control?
 
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Robin said:
.50!, guess my 20mm is still good to go.
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No sir.
from the text of the bull, or I mean bill
Section 3: Amends section 265.00 of the Penal Law to add a new
subsection (26) defining 50-caliber weapons: Paragraph (a) provides that
50-caliber weapons include those which:

(i) fire a 50-caliber or larger bullet; or

(ii) are capable of firing a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of
12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any combination of bullet, propellant,
case, or primer, or;

(iii) any copy or duplicate of any such weapon that is capable of firing
a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or
greater regardless of caliber. Paragraph (b) provides an exemption for
any firearm that meets the definition of paragraph
 
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Saltwater60 said:
No sir.
from the text of the bull, or I mean bill
Section 3: Amends section 265.00 of the Penal Law to add a new
subsection (26) defining 50-caliber weapons: Paragraph (a) provides that
50-caliber weapons include those which:

(i) fire a 50-caliber or larger bullet; or

(ii) are capable of firing a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of
12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any combination of bullet, propellant,
case, or primer, or;

(iii) any copy or duplicate of any such weapon that is capable of firing
a projectile that attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or
greater regardless of caliber. Paragraph (b) provides an exemption for
any firearm that meets the definition of paragraph
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Well, almost any rifle can obtain 12000 ftlbs once. That's about 77 grains of TNT.

Especially when they're counting the energy of the propellant too.
 
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I'm always trying to stay ahead of this type of shit. I'm at the point of a handheld nuke.
A muzzle loading nuke. Those will probably be banned soon too. Those bastards.

The NY State Senate is why we can not have nice things.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
It’s not just a .50 cal ban. It’s anything .50 cal or larger or any firearm that obtains a muzzle angry of 12,000 foot pounds or greater.
They are doing this because there is no practical purpose for these and how dangerous they are. I’ll bet there hasn’t been 10 crimes committed with a .50 cal weapon in the USA.
Of course you can register these guns as well. Registration, registration, registration. More and more background checks and registrations required in this state. Anyone else get the impression they want an all encompassing database of gun owners in NYS? One has to ask why. We should all know why.
Whats next. Oh and by the way me telling my rep I don’t agree with this is not worth my time. He’s very liberal.
Jokes on them. Barrett .50 cal BMG is only 11,489 ft lbs at the muzzle. The law says 12,000 ft lbs or more.
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12,000 FPE????
Oh boy, there goes the 45acp!!!
They are VERY powerful!! :)
 
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I wonder if I can keep my ML. It's a 50 cal. I mean, even though I still can't find the text in the actual bill for the CCIA the commissioner of the state police decided a ML is a firearm and requires a background check.

Maybe if I only use my 45cal bullets with a 50cal sabot I'll be spared?
 
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