Still able to Register "Assault Weapons"?

Robin said:

Tho I haven't been in a gun shop in quite a while, I do believe some shops still sell AR rifles with a fixed magazine that must be NY Shit hole legal or they would have been raided years ago. Seems like a little investigation into what kind of mag lock the manufacturer of these NY Shithole legal rifles would be easy enough to find if one is truly interested.
Try a little internet searching, beats having this subject arise every six months or so and no one answering with anything definitive after If's and but's.
Its' wrong, unconstitutional and just another step toward the confiscation of firearms from honest citizens.
So start searching and let the rest of us ignorant bastards know, once and for all!
Robin

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FP1201 said:

Granted it's a gray area, but its been done (bullet Buttons) since the 01/13 inception of the SAFE Act.
The Shop that got jammed up way back then was in Monroe or West Monroe if I recall, and not that it should matter, but the Owner was Black and was followed by that community. The most egregious example was the kid that shot up the Tops market in Buffalo, and then Koonta-Kunty James went after the Maker of the device instead of the fucktard that drilled it out so he could commit murder...I suppose we should expect it, after all it's NY and all about the Money.

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FP1201 said:

The NYSP will not issue any sort of ruling/law, just a vague interpretation they'll use to arbitrarily deny you...It's easier to tell you "no" than possibly be put on the spot for an answer.
"Detachable" isn't defined in the Law.

detachable

adjective​

1. That can be detached.
2. Designed to be unfastened or disconnected without damage.

removable

adjective​

1. Admitting of being removed.
2. Able to be removed.
3. Capable of being removed or taken away or dismissed.
   "removable partitions"

Bullet Buttons that keep the Magazine from being detached (dropped) from the Rifle without the use of Tool(s) to remove the magazine have been installed by the thousands since the passage of the SAFE Act...the few people that have gotten jammed up did so because THEY fucked around with the modification...There isn't anything on a gun that can't be "removed" which differs from "detached" and this is something the State really doesn't want to go to Trial because it could expose the whole Law for the bullshit that it is.

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FP1201 said:

"Mr. Nobody Sr.?"

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Zerex said:

No one here is going to slather an AR mag body with JB Weld or epoxy, because they want the ability to take it out.............. someday, and do not want to run a $50, AR Lower receiver due to "principle."

If the mag well and mag are slathered with good epoxy totally all sides........no one with tools is going to be able to take it out without likely destroying either the mag, or lower receiver.

If the epoxied lower is put into an oven at 300-350* for an hour, the epoxy will turn to rubber and the receiver will survive. Out comes the mag.

Intent goes a long way.............epoxy makes a good effort at legality, if it cannot be accessed and removed with a knife, along side the mag and mag well.

But then.........if arrested with an epoxied AW.........and reasonable efforts to remove the mag are futile..........the law still says CAPABLE................you have to fuck with CAPABLE in the courts.........incapable of removal, may get you off......maybe... but the oven test looms... a poor epoxy job, on an oiled up receiver well............ is legal suicide. It has to work.

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FP1201 said:

However simple as it may seem, a "Tool" (cartridge) was required to remove the Magazine, it could not be "detached" by simply pushing the Button as designed.
It becomes apparent and after a decade of use that unless you're committing other Crimes or greatly increased the interest Law Enforcement has in you that it's a non-issue and a precedence.
The reason the Magazine Locks that require the action to be split (shotgunned) is that no tools are required, only that a push-pin be shifted and the action tilted open to allow the magazine to be released.

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Zerex said:

I am not aware of any dealer in NYS, anymore, who is selling AR's--- with full features, and with their own mag lock, retention feature.

I might be wrong.

Show me.

I have a NYS compliant AR10, with unthreaded, DPMS 20" bbl, and Thordsen stock.

Works.........no registration needed.

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Zerex said:

I am not aware of any dealer in NYS, anymore, who is selling AR's--- with full features, and with their own mag lock, retention feature.

I might be wrong.

Show me.

I have a NYS compliant AR10, with unthreaded, DPMS 20" bbl, and Thordsen stock.

Works.........no registration needed.

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Zerex said:

I am not aware of any dealer in NYS, anymore, who is selling AR's--- with full features, and with their own mag lock, retention feature.

I might be wrong.

Show me.

I have a NYS compliant AR10, with unthreaded, DPMS 20" bbl, and Thordsen stock.

Works.........no registration needed.

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FP1201 said:

We sold a LOT of MSR Rifles that as best as anyone could tell including NYSP Officers that visited in Uniform and plane clothed Detectives complied with SAFE.
What really nailed the coffin shut was the "Semi-Automatic Rifle Licenses" that shut out a lot of new owners and quite a few ordinary people that for reasons mostly of the exasperating trouble in obtaining a Handgun Licenses (that was allowed to substitute the SA Rifle Licenses despite the Law) could not buy even a simple 10/22 Rifle let alone a AR series. Congratulations, Democrat Lawmakers, you fucked Honest Citizens while thinking you're stopping crime committed with guns.

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