Bolt Action Upper Question

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Brawny71 said:
They sell the full bcg if you’re interested.
AR-15 Kali Key + BCG Bundle - Kali Key

I haven’t seen any difference in carbon or build up. Can’t explain it, just an observation.
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I saw that, thank you for the info. But I can still save about $50 by buying the BCG from a different source. Plenty of places offer good ones for right on about $50. So even at full price on the key, ordering a BCG elsewhere will be my option.




After some stuff that happened today, this is on hold for a few months.
 
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This is so cool, came back today to see if there where any conversations here on this. Perfect. I am grabbing one, just the key, I have plenty of BCG's and it look simple to convert.
 
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It's my hope that by the time everything gets settled down to where I can order something, BC will have the uppers back in stock. I'm OK with the Kali Key option, but would prefer a dedicated upper.
I'd personally rather not have to deal with any of it and just be able to use my rifle as it was from the factory.
 
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FRB said:
This is so cool, came back today to see if there where any conversations here on this. Perfect. I am grabbing one, just the key, I have plenty of BCG's and it look simple to convert.
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They are awesome. And take out the first definition of AW. It is interesting to see the confused looks at the range and the “Ah…you know those are illegal”. I wish I had come up with the idea.
 
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Brawny71 said:
They are awesome. And take out the first definition of AW. It is interesting to see the confused looks at the range and the “Ah…you know those are illegal”. I wish I had come up with the idea.
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Just beware of "constructive intent". If you happen to get caught with your bolt action AR and actually get the cop to listen and understand that it IS a bolt action because of the Kali-Key, great...BUT...if you also at the time possess the original bolt carrier group, and could easily convert your bolt action back into a full featured AR, you will probably get F'ed with no lube. Leave the original BCG at home !
 
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Tisto said:
Just beware of "constructive intent". If you happen to get caught with your bolt action AR and actually get the cop to listen and understand that it IS a bolt action because of the Kali-Key, great...BUT...if you also at the time possess the original bolt carrier group, and could easily convert your bolt action back into a full featured AR, you will probably get F'ed with no lube. Leave the original BCG at home !
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RGR. I believe the thread start was to build a legal AR. He is starting only with the intent to have a manual/ bolt configuration. But that is an important point for others reading.
 
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My goal is to get rid of the Thordsen on the rifle. They are OK, but I find them sort of bulky to hold. I can't explain it, as they do look and feel like a regular rifle stock, but a lot thicker. I would also like to be able to remove the magazine in case of a jam, because as most know straight wall in an MSR can be problematic. I hunt some public land and just don't want the problems that come with an MSR being in a questionable form.
My biggest worry with the Kali Key is exactly what @Tisto mentioned above. I don't carry a spare BCG, but you never know how Jonny Law will act on a given day. As much as I despise the laws, I do follow them.

I might go back to a fixed mag on it if my mod to the mags continues working.
 
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An even easier possibility, depending on the type of Front Sight Base or gas block is the removal of the Gas Tube and/or a replacement/reversal/plugging of the Gas Block. Outside of the A1 or A2 Rifles or ones that use a Steel Front Sight Base that won't play nice coming off or being reversed, most of the Flat-tops have a simple block that's held in place with set-screws....there;s the option of simply removing the Tube or crimping it shut (new one is under $20 should things change)...one could easily enough run a Tap through the block where the tube goes through and plug it with a set screw while using the Bolt carrier as designed..
While I trained and used for years the Rear Charging design, truth be told I much prefer Side Charging, and for a manually operated opposed to gas/semi would be faster and easier than conventional rear charging.
 
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You got to really love the AR platform configuration in order to turn it into a bolt action. I would thing a standard bolt action would have better ergonomics for better shooting.
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I have bolt action rifles. Yes, I like the AR platform, and not just for sitting in a safe or putting holes in paper. It's like the compound VS traditional debate, but in the end they are just different tools to do the same thing, hunt.
But NY makes shit harder then it needs to be and cost a lot more than nessasary.
 
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