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Do guns from the 16th and 17th century ,like blunderbuss or even flint lock muskets still need the to be sold through a FFL ?, these are not realistically fire-able , too old and use flint and back powder ? Just really display pieces
 
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Bridge permit holder said:
Do guns from the 16th and 17th century ,like blunderbuss or even flint lock muskets still need the to be sold through a FFL ?, these are not realistically fire-able , too old and use flint and back powder ? Just really display pieces
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Federal law says no. If it's made before 1898 then no FFL required. New York state has it's own rules that i believe are more strict.
 
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It’s New York. Of course it’s awful.

Executive Law Section 228 was amended a couple of years ago to include “Antique Firearms” in the requirement for background checks.

”Antique Firearms” is defined under Section 265.00(14) of the Penal Code.

Check it out.
 
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NYS is absolutely disgusting. Not only do you need a NICS check for antique firearms, but you need one for black powder firearms as of Sept 2022.
And, you need a NYSP background check for ammunition. Every time you purchase ammo in NYS, the dealer is required to KEEP YOUR INFORMATION ON FILE.
Your name, address, birthday, occupation, type of ammo, caliber, number of rounds, lot number.....to be KEPT ON FILE.....indefinitely.
Luckily, I shoot all I want and never need to buy ammunition.....in NY.
 
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If it cannot be fired and not operational it can be sold without anything being done. Technically if they are operable then you need to go through an FFL in NYS. Yes, it’s ridiculous
 
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Criticalt said:
Your name, address, birthday, occupation, type of ammo, caliber, number of rounds, lot number.....to be KEPT ON FILE.....indefinitely.
Luckily, I shoot all I want and never need to buy ammunition.....in NY.
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So far i haven't had to go through hochul's communist background check for ammo purchases Make all my own centerfire stuff and have over 12K of rimfire stuff on hand.
 
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Bought a box of cartridges yesterday. The gun shop owner does not do background checks fr ammo and says there is NO law that says he must! Even offered to receive any bulk ammo purchase at his location for a small handling fee.
He said the box box stores are doing the BGC and doesn't understand why.
Robin
 
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I bought an 1860 Army colt replica and had to put it on my PP..had to do a 4473 thru the local FFL.

Sellers out of state are getting skittish about sales to NYS. FFL for about everything.

Replica guns, Dewats, Dummies, are now banned here.

I had a dummy Thompson, that got sent out of state.
 
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Zerex said:
I bought an 1860 Army colt replica and had to put it on my PP..had to do a 4473 thru the local FFL.

Sellers out of state are getting skittish about sales to NYS. FFL for about everything.

Replica guns, Dewats, Dummies, are now banned here.

I had a dummy Thompson, that got sent out of state.
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Dummies aren’t banned unless they operate and fall under some other rule. Stop scaring the sheep on here.
 
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Dummies aren’t banned unless they operate and fall under some other rule. Stop scaring the sheep on here.
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Perhaps he's reading into the NYC ordinances that impose some restrictions and prohibitions on toy guns that look like real guns, mostly arising from less intelligent Choir Boys pointing them at Cops who don't take time to decide if it's real before deleting them from the gene pool. If one already has an Antique, Black Powder, or even one of the finer Dummy Guns, the po-po aren't going to come looking for you unless you get stupid and invite them into your life.
BTW: NY felons cannot have a Black-Powder gun irrespective of Federal Law which classifies them as "non-Guns".
 
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