Constructing AR using fixed-mag lower= "take possession"?

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Tisto said:
So.....you're leaving me out. No gifts for me. See how you are ?
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Actually I have a KORE gun belt I hate that I have been meaning to post up for free on here. I cut it oversized and should fit to about a 38-40” waste. It’s yours free if you want it. It’s olive drab green with a black buckle. I only wore it for a few weeks. It keeps up and pinched my stomach but I know plenty love them. My son has one he doesn’t like either that’s about brand new. I’m not sure what we cut that for on size.
 
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BlakeLok said:
The NY law for semi-auto rifles states:

It is illegal to purchase or take possession of a semi-auto rifle without a semi-auto rifle license.

Does this include buying a fixed-mag lower through an FFL, a standard AR upper from a website, and attaching the two?

Has this possible loophole been tested in court yet? Any guidance from State Police?
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Update: I am no longer going this route. Kali Key seems the way to go.
 
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Update: I am no longer going this route. Kali Key seems the way to go.
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I personally would not go this route. What is the benefit? Ergonomics on this suck IMO. What is this rifle for? If it’s for hunting get a bolt action hunting rifle as they are much lighter. If it’s for shooting I do not think you’ll like this option.
Also legally speaking this is a super easy swap from the Kali Key to an illegal gun. People were worried about the fixed mag options and being illegal and yet this is the easiest conversion back to a full “assault weapon” out there.
You do what works for you but this is expensive and to me it’s useless.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I personally would not go this route. What is the benefit? Ergonomics on this suck IMO. What is this rifle for? If it’s for hunting get a bolt action hunting rifle as they are much lighter. If it’s for shooting I do not think you’ll like this option.
Also legally speaking this is a super easy swap from the Kali Key to an illegal gun. People were worried about the fixed mag options and being illegal and yet this is the easiest conversion back to a full “assault weapon” out there.
You do what works for you but this is expensive and to me it’s useless.
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I really like the AR platform and all the possible accessories and changes. Personally i dont mind the extra time it takes to use the bolt action feature, it lets the barrel cool down a little and i dont feel the need to shoot quickly anyway. I like to take my time.
 
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I think you may need the semi-auto permit to buy any semi auto rifle. I've read that by definition the bolt carrier group is considered the semi-auto part of an AR. I recently purchased a Ruger 10/22 and the FFL made me show my semi-auto permit. FYI - I was sighting in an AR at a makeshift target range in a local state forest and a DEC officer came by and questioned me about my AR being very "tactical" in appearance. I assured him and showed him that the magazine was pinned, and it had a 5 shot limiter installed, and the rifle scope, bipod and weapon light were for coyote hunting. After conversing with him awhile he commented about his AR and shared his feeling about the NY Unsafe Act and that Cuomo and Hochul suck. lol
 
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pramaglia said:
I think you may need the semi-auto permit to buy any semi auto rifle. I've read that by definition the bolt carrier group is considered the semi-auto part of an AR. I recently purchased a Ruger 10/22 and the FFL made me show my semi-auto permit. FYI - I was sighting in an AR at a makeshift target range in a local state forest and a DEC officer came by and questioned me about my AR being very "tactical" in appearance. I assured him and showed him that the magazine was pinned, and it had a 5 shot limiter installed, and the rifle scope, bipod and weapon light were for coyote hunting. After conversing with him awhile he commented about his AR and shared his feeling about the NY Unsafe Act and that Cuomo and Hochul suck. lol
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pramaglia said:
I think you may need the semi-auto permit to buy any semi auto rifle. I've read that by definition the bolt carrier group is considered the semi-auto part of an AR. I recently purchased a Ruger 10/22 and the FFL made me show my semi-auto permit. FYI - I was sighting in an AR at a makeshift target range in a local state forest and a DEC officer came by and questioned me about my AR being very "tactical" in appearance. I assured him and showed him that the magazine was pinned, and it had a 5 shot limiter installed, and the rifle scope, bipod and weapon light were for coyote hunting. After conversing with him awhile he commented about his AR and shared his feeling about the NY Unsafe Act and that Cuomo and Hochul suck. lol
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Can i ask which state forest? You can PM me.
 
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This is common practice at gun ranges too, by range Officers, due to INS issues.................

No illegal, or legally questionable guns, without the AW license may be fired, is common practice. Range Officers may be retired or off duty LE.


AW hunger is real....................get a NYS compliant AR, and blast away.
 
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No AR bolt carrier ever made, is the semi auto part or a "gun or firearm".
Show me the serial number

It is the serial numbered, and MFG marked, AR lower receiver, that is a semi automatic gun.

Existing semi you may own were grandfathered.....maybe.
NYS is a big maybe state.
 
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