First-in-the-nation gun safety pilot program involving health care providers expands across New York state

Saltwater60 · Saturday at 12:23 PM

Deplorable Me said:
First-in-the-nation gun safety pilot program expands across New York state

The program works to equip health care providers who work in hospitals with training to assess firearm injury risk.

spectrumlocalnews.com

"Patients 12 and older who volunteer can be screened and could be offered safety resources and referrals."

12 years old volunteer? Sounds like political indoctrination at another level. AKA grooming. Teach your children well.

Now read between the line. This is NY, how are they going to abuse this?

12 years old in NYS is the age where they kick parents out and let children make their own health care decisions. Trans care, abortion and a few other things. What could go wrong.

Tisto · Saturday at 10:55 PM

So, let me get this straight - we're going to give a bunch of pre-teens a few trigger locks and ask them to be nice ? Then everything is going to magically get better ?

Um....I thought 12 year olds couldn't own guns. I mean, lots of us did at that age, especially those of us that grew up where livestock outnumbered people by 5:1, but as a general rule.

Follow the money on this one....millions will be spent, and 99% will find it's way into some democrat election slush fund for sure.

Darth · Saturday at 11:48 PM

New York loves that "first in the nation" line.

Spoiler: There's probably a reason you're the first.

"NY Introduces First Submarine With a Screen Door!"

Criticalt · 2026-03-22T01:38:47-0400

"extreme risk protection order support".

This should go well. Emotional 12-17 year old kids can now "red flag" their parents when they get angry.
Remember, a health care professional can have your firearms "temporarily" removed from your home with one phone call.
An angry 12 year old in the ER now has help from a 2 year vocational school LPN to disarm you.
"Why are you sad youngster?"
"My daddy is mean"
"Does daddy have guns?"
"Yes"
Boom, guns removed for saftey. Good luck getting them back.

dsdmmat · 2026-03-22T08:12:13-0400

Criticalt said:
"extreme risk protection order support".

This should go well. Emotional 12-17 year old kids can now "red flag" their parents when they get angry.
Remember, a health care professional can have your firearms "temporarily" removed from your home with one phone call.
An angry 12 year old in the ER now has help from a 2 year vocational school LPN to disarm you.
"Why are you sad youngster?"
"My daddy is mean"
"Does daddy have guns?"
"Yes"
Boom, guns removed for saftey. Good luck getting them back.

Remove the spoiled child, leave the guns.

Saltwater60 · 2026-03-22T08:55:56-0400

Criticalt said:
"extreme risk protection order support".

This should go well. Emotional 12-17 year old kids can now "red flag" their parents when they get angry.
Remember, a health care professional can have your firearms "temporarily" removed from your home with one phone call.
An angry 12 year old in the ER now has help from a 2 year vocational school LPN to disarm you.
"Why are you sad youngster?"
"My daddy is mean"
"Does daddy have guns?"
"Yes"
Boom, guns removed for saftey. Good luck getting them back.

I’m worried this very thing will happen to a friend of mine.
He has an adopted daughter they got when she was a few days old. Fetal alcohol syndrome and a long history of mental illness in ther biological family. She is currently going around telling people how unsafe her house is because she’s aggressive and got in her mom’s face. Her mom raised her hand and said back off or I will make you. Now she’s saying how unsafe her mom and dad are. The mother and father have done everything for this girl. Counselor after counselor. Psychiatrists, in patient mental health, eating disorder clinics costing thousands. Eating clinic was in patient in Baltimore and the mom moved down there for a few months. She does all sorts of harmful behavior and causes them tons of headaches.
She’s 18 now so she tells all the counselors how mean her parents are and how they are Christian’s so they indulge her because she’s now trans. It’s a mess.

repete · 2026-03-22T11:54:25-0400

Saltwater60 said:
I’m worried this very thing will happen to a friend of mine.
He has an adopted daughter they got when she was a few days old. Fetal alcohol syndrome and a long history of mental illness in ther biological family. She is currently going around telling people how unsafe her house is because she’s aggressive and got in her mom’s face. Her mom raised her hand and said back off or I will make you. Now she’s saying how unsafe her mom and dad are. The mother and father have done everything for this girl. Counselor after counselor. Psychiatrists, in patient mental health, eating disorder clinics costing thousands. Eating clinic was in patient in Baltimore and the mom moved down there for a few months. She does all sorts of harmful behavior and causes them tons of headaches.
She’s 18 now so she tells all the counselors how mean her parents are and how they are Christian’s so they indulge her because she’s now trans. It’s a mess.

18 years old, time for her to move out. From what you wrote, they have tried their best and now it's time to cut her loose before she destroys them!

Saltwater60 · 2026-03-22T12:50:39-0400

repete said:
18 years old, time for her to move out. From what you wrote, they have tried their best and now it's time to cut her loose before she destroys them!

The hard thing is that she has so many issues she can’t make it on her own. She has major decision-making and impulse controls. She is 18, but has the ability and decision-making skills of about a 13 year old. They are looking at getting her placed somewhere and emancipated. Kind of like a group home with supports for her. it’s not easy because social security doesn’t identify fetal alcohol syndrome as a recognized disability.
If they kick her out she will not make it. She will end up being sexually abused and possibly a drug addict. Her safety and life would be in danger. She would likely end up dead in short order and they can’t handle that. This is the catch and why they struggle so badly. Fantastic people but it’s tearing them up.

JunkBoxFull · 2026-03-22T13:08:59-0400

Saltwater60 said:
The hard thing is that she has so many issues she can’t make it on her own. She has major decision-making and impulse controls. She is 18, but has the ability and decision-making skills of about a 13 year old. They are looking at getting her placed somewhere and emancipated. Kind of like a group home with supports for her. it’s not easy because social security doesn’t identify fetal alcohol syndrome as a recognized disability.
If they kick her out she will not make it. She will end up being sexually abused and possibly a drug addict. Her safety and life would be in danger. She would likely end up dead in short order and they can’t handle that. This is the catch and why they struggle so badly. Fantastic people but it’s tearing them up.

My wife an i would have signed the emancipation papers and put all her shit on the curb.
Sometimes ya just gotta man the fk up and get it done. Better luck next time.

JunkBoxFull · 2026-03-22T13:10:50-0400

repete said:
18 years old, time for her to move out. From what you wrote, they have tried their best and now it's time to cut her loose before she destroys them!

THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

FP1201 · 2026-03-22T13:19:17-0400

Tisto said:
So, let me get this straight - we're going to give a bunch of pre-teens a few trigger locks and ask them to be nice ? Then everything is going to magically get better ?

Um....I thought 12 year olds couldn't own guns. I mean, lots of us did at that age, especially those of us that grew up where livestock outnumbered people by 5:1, but as a general rule.

Follow the money on this one....millions will be spent, and 99% will find it's way into some democrat election slush fund for sure.

Double and triple super secret illegal!
maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking there are already Laws with harsh penalties prohibiting kids (teenagers) from touching, accessing, or using (even Hunting) without direct supervision of an Adult, and said adult would be slammed if they somehow failed to secure their guns above any possibility of a non-adult or prohibited person from accessing them.
Remember that nut-job Adam Lanza? the one they claimed murdered all those kids at Sandy Hook Elementary? The story reported said he MURDERED his Mother and gained access to HER RIFLE that was stored in a Gun Safe...Seems like they wanted or tried to go after the Father too, but they just couldn't link him to it because they were divorced and living in separate domiciles.
Wonder if I could get a Contract with the State to distribute Trigger locks/cables bought from China for thirty cents a piece delivered?

JunkBoxFull · 2026-03-22T13:29:08-0400

So are NY politicians possibly using underage children as their foot soldiers ???

Criticalt · 2026-03-22T13:48:34-0400

Saltwater60 said:
I’m worried this very thing will happen to a friend of mine.
He has an adopted daughter they got when she was a few days old. Fetal alcohol syndrome and a long history of mental illness in ther biological family. She is currently going around telling people how unsafe her house is because she’s aggressive and got in her mom’s face. Her mom raised her hand and said back off or I will make you. Now she’s saying how unsafe her mom and dad are. The mother and father have done everything for this girl. Counselor after counselor. Psychiatrists, in patient mental health, eating disorder clinics costing thousands. Eating clinic was in patient in Baltimore and the mom moved down there for a few months. She does all sorts of harmful behavior and causes them tons of headaches.
She’s 18 now so she tells all the counselors how mean her parents are and how they are Christian’s so they indulge her because she’s now trans. It’s a mess.

As a fellow adopted kid, I can say we dont all turn out bad. My brother, sister and I were all adopted as infants. We have the absolute best parents we could have had, and im personally happy my birth mom gave me up. I wouldn't have traded my privileged life for anything. My parents are my REAL parents and they treated us as so. My mom died in 2021, but I see my 86 year old dad every day. We go to lunch, or just hang out. Hes my best friend.
Ok, sorry for the sappy post.

JunkBoxFull · 2026-03-22T13:56:00-0400

Criticalt said:
As a fellow adopted kid, I can say we dont all turn out bad. My brother, sister and I were all adopted as infants. We have the absolute best parents we could have had, and im personally happy my birth mom gave me up. I wouldn't have traded my privileged life for anything. My parents are my REAL parents and they treated us as so. My mom died in 2021, but I see my 86 year old dad every day. We go to lunch, or just hang out. Hes my best friend.
Ok, sorry for the sappy post.

I as well, my brother were adopted. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn`t. I`m very happy that your dad is still with you, so sorry about your mom. I wish all great moms & dads could live forever.

Criticalt · 2026-03-22T14:04:55-0400

JunkBoxFull said:
I as well, my brother were adopted. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn`t. I`m very happy that your dad is still with you, so sorry about your mom. I wish all great moms & dads could live forever.

Thank you, but she was very sick for a very long time. It was honestly a blessing. But my parents were married for 60 years, now hes in our big family house alone. They always planned to travel the world when they retired. Now my dad goes alone, its kind of sad. In January he went on a 2 week cruise in the Caribbean and Mexico. He went all the way to the Panama Canal. He did this by himself, at 86 years old. I offered to go with him, but he said he would be ok. Dang, im getting emotional.

JunkBoxFull · 2026-03-22T14:10:42-0400

Criticalt said:
Thank you, but she was very sick for a very long time. It was honestly a blessing. But my parents were married for 60 years, now hes in our big family house alone. They always planned to travel the world when they retired. Now my dad goes alone, its kind of sad. In January he went on a 2 week cruise in the Caribbean and Mexico. He went all the way to the Panama Canal. He did this by himself, at 86 years old. I offered to go with him, but he said he would be ok. Dang, im getting emotional.

Amazing story man, glad you shared that. Your dad, wow, amazing.

Saltwater60 · 2026-03-23T08:19:25-0400

Criticalt said:
As a fellow adopted kid, I can say we dont all turn out bad. My brother, sister and I were all adopted as infants. We have the absolute best parents we could have had, and im personally happy my birth mom gave me up. I wouldn't have traded my privileged life for anything. My parents are my REAL parents and they treated us as so. My mom died in 2021, but I see my 86 year old dad every day. We go to lunch, or just hang out. Hes my best friend.
Ok, sorry for the sappy post.

That’s great to know. It’s hard because she has great moments but the mental illness and instability always gets her. They tried meds, no meds, all sorts of other treatments. They have sparred no expense in money or time trying to get this girl the help she needs. She so complex a lot of therapists simply turn them away. They have traveled to out of network specialists and tried about everyone locally they could.
The parents are fantastic people. They are maybe a bit strict or rigid and it’s all purely mental illnesses on the daughter’s part.
They recently found her bio mom and dad and it turns out we sort of know the bio dad through some acquaintances. He’s a mess. Can’t really hold a job for long, drinks, does drugs, doesn’t have a drivers license and just has poor decision-making skills. He is odd and has bad mental health as well. Some of the comments and actions are just odd. Tickle wars with his 18 year old daughter?? Come on now.
The daughter has all the mental illness signs and diagnosis’s the mother and father have and some other family members. She has fetal alcohol syndrome and that inhibits development and decision-making skills. She has cut herself, planned out her suicide, and doesn’t eat. Ahe does a lot of self harming behaviors. She has other issues as well and I don’t want to get too specific.
The mother and father are beside themselves because she threatens them and needs to find a new place to live but it’s not safe for her. I give them credit for prioritizing their daughter’s safety over their peace. If you knew this girl you’d know she can’t safely be on her own. There is a lot of pain there on all sides and honestly it’s one of the most difficult and heartbreaking situations I am aware of.

Saltwater60 · 2026-03-23T08:27:05-0400

Criticalt said:
Thank you, but she was very sick for a very long time. It was honestly a blessing. But my parents were married for 60 years, now hes in our big family house alone. They always planned to travel the world when they retired. Now my dad goes alone, it’s kind of sad. In January he went on a 2 week cruise in the Caribbean and Mexico. He went all the way to the Panama Canal. He did this by himself, at 86 years old. I offered to go with him, but he said he would be ok. Dang, im getting emotional.

That’s awesome. They remind me of my grandparents. Great, kind, and gentle people. They were married for 67 years but he died before she did. She wasn’t the same without him for years.
That’s awesome your dad can still travel and gets around that well after retirement. I’m also glad to see you guys have a great relationship. I pray that this family will someday. It’s very complicated and complex for them. I think deep down she knows her parents are good people and maybe in a few years her brain will develop more and she will realize it. Maybe not.
Cherish the moments you have left with your dad but it seems like you are already. Good stuff!!

Criticalt · 2026-03-23T09:16:04-0400

Saltwater60 said:
That’s awesome. They remind me of my grandparents. Great, kind, and gentle people. They were married for 67 years but he died before she did. She wasn’t the same without him for years.
That’s awesome your dad can still travel and gets around that well after retirement. I’m also glad to see you guys have a great relationship. I pray that this family will someday. It’s very complicated and complex for them. I think deep down she knows her parents are good people and maybe in a few years her brain will develop more and she will realize it. Maybe not.
Cherish the moments you have left with your dad but it seems like you are already. Good stuff!!

I wasnt the best kid growing up. My parents were absolute saints. My dad was extremely strict. They were both school teachers. My dad taught 6th grade for 52 years, he didnt take crap from kids!
He was the most requested teacher for over 30 years. Former students requested he be their kids teachers. My parents also ran a kids Summer camp for 30 years.
Im not to proud to say, I was a hellion. Smoking, drinking, drugs, keg parties, bad decisions....
I had a DUAI at 18, along with several other charges, including possession of Marijuana, and Criminal Possession Of A Weapon...
Shortly after that, I made a change. My parents told me they would always love me, but at the moment, they really didnt like me. That sounds harsh, and it was. But it changed me. They supported me through everything. Lawyer fees, bail.....they were very disappointed, but were always there.
Within the next year after the DUAI, I applied at Penn State. Graduated PS, then Cornell for grad school where I got my DVM. Then to UC Davis for 2 years of further schooling.
I did this for myself, but my parents were always in my mind.
My point is, people change, especially young people. It took time to fix my life, including getting my 2a rights restored from the weapons charge. All that bad stuff in my life was almost 40 years ago now.

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