holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Bullshit. No rumors. your a true believer. an 06 can be stopped by hitting the carotid artery? WTF?
Charlie Kirk shot (merged threads)
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stokes
.338 Win Mag
I'm a true believer in what? Who said an 06 can be stopped by any artery? I just aint making any decisions without evidence and until now there is no definitive evidence, just rumors. There hasnt been any autopsy reports published yet. Before we go any further, are you a flat earther too?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
In what your told
Apparently you, and the press that told you so.
Evidence??? was a 06 found at (near)the scene? that counts as evidence . the 06 is evidence. the video tapes of a figure on the roof and in the stairwell are evidence. the police say he was killed by Tyler Robinson with the 06, the 06 was his grandfathers rifle . thats evidence too
the police report said he dismantled the rifle on the roof after killing kirk so he could hide it . the police found the rifle assembled in nearby field . which means Tyler put it back together. but didnt bother to wipe his finger prints off the gun . thats all on record .Its all evidence . the evidence of of an 06 round going through 1/2 inch steel plate @150 yards speaks to the power of the round
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No, i think its a square tube
No, the Government narrative is 30-06! Who the hell would believe that? It would be a hell of more dramatic than that...im sure there was peices of it around.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Where the fuck did I say that? Dont make shit up.
Yes, that is evidence.....evidence that it was a 30-06 involved. Where is the evidence that... oh, wait, holdover and some flat earther told me it wasnt. Until an official autopsy report is released there isnt any proof, just rumors and assumptions.
Why no autopsy water ball boy? Everything .Gov told us is hersey. Government would never cover up or lie.....lol
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Why no autopsy? I dont know and neither do you. I do know its not unusual to withhold a report during an active investigation. I never said nor inferred that the gov never lied or covered up. All I said was that that video of everybody jumping over tables at the time of the shooting was not convincing as layed out. You cant see anything being picked up, pocketed or passed around. What is "hersey"?
spat
.950 JDJ
I have no idea what really happened.
But I do know that Tyler Robinson will be convicted of the crime and sent to prison for a long time.
The defense is entirely performative at this point. They might as well bring up the fringe on the flag.
I have no idea what happened either, we may never know.
To be honest, I do not care either way.
Just another American that was killed.
Like the 10's of 1000's each year.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
The government probably murdered him because they didn`t want him to become vice president in 2028, and president in 2036.
THERE, i solved why he was murdered, and once again, the government is sending a pasty to prison for life.
Autopsy? Fuck yeah they did one, and they ain`t gonna share that shit with any of you!
That bullet they speak of.... yeah that`s a fuckin crock of made up bullshit story.
It`s obvious to me, he was murdered at closer range than said.
This government lies so much, i don`t trust anything they do.
THERE, i solved why he was murdered, and once again, the government is sending a pasty to prison for life.
Autopsy? Fuck yeah they did one, and they ain`t gonna share that shit with any of you!
That bullet they speak of.... yeah that`s a fuckin crock of made up bullshit story.
It`s obvious to me, he was murdered at closer range than said.
This government lies so much, i don`t trust anything they do.
I'm not sure where this Kirk for president started, but....
May be one of the funniest things I heard this year.
He would have never been on a presidential ticket.
May be one of the funniest things I heard this year.
He would have never been on a presidential ticket.
spat
.950 JDJ
To be fair this *is* a gun forum.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Vance and Kirk were very close best friends. Let that sink in for just a second.
Vance and Kirk were very close best friends. Let that sink in for just a second.
JD would not pick him.
He would be a losing sidekick
The party would not allow it.
A pick like that would hand the office to the left
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Well, he`s dead, so neither one of us will ever know for sure.
Who do you think is going to be the chosen one? My gut says "Lil`Marco"
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Not rumors or assumptions stop with the bullshit already.
FOX 10 Phoenix ·
A bullet fragment in the Charlie Kirk death investigation did not conclusively match the rifle allegedly used by defendant Tyler Robinson, new court documents claim – and his lawyers are asking for a delay in his preliminary hearing.
Documents filed by the defense in the court case against Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old charged in the murder of conservative activist Kirk, say experts with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives haven't been able to prove a bullet fragment recovered during an autopsy of Kirk came from the Mauser Model 98 rifle allegedly tied to Robinson.
The ATF’s report is not yet available to the public but Robinson’s attorneys cite a summary of the report in court filings and say the agency was “unable
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stokes
.338 Win Mag
I worked 30yrs with defense attorneys, the lowest form of life there is when it comes to lying. No official report released makes it rumor. And coming from a mutt lawyer, likely a lie.
Nothing unusual about this, bullet fragments cant conclusively match a round to a rifle. Now how about you stop with the bullshit. I'm done with this bs. All I said was that I didnt buy what the video defilade posted was saying. Then the two of you jump in, misquoting, no, not misquoting making up things you say I said and continually throwing up bullshit assumptions as proof to your conspiracy theory. Give it a rest.
spat
.950 JDJ
Bullet probably looks like this.
Anyone claiming the fact that it can't be matched to a specific rifle means something needs to stop watching CSI reruns.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The fucking ATF said it didnt match WTF??? It may or not be the bullet, More details would be needed .
I completely understand what your saying, but it doesnt make it a fact
I completely understand what your saying, but it doesnt make it a fact
This is what is being said...
An analysis from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive (ATF) could not conclusively connect a bullet fragment recovered during Charlie Kirk’s autopsy to the rifle found near the scene of the rightwing political activist’s killing – and the FBI is running additional tests, lawyers for Kirk’s accused murderer said in recent court filings.
Not that the bullet does not match
An analysis from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive (ATF) could not conclusively connect a bullet fragment recovered during Charlie Kirk’s autopsy to the rifle found near the scene of the rightwing political activist’s killing – and the FBI is running additional tests, lawyers for Kirk’s accused murderer said in recent court filings.
Not that the bullet does not match
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Whats the difference?
If the bullet was too far damaged, a match cannot be made. Does not mean it is not from the rifle.
Only means they cannot, beyond a shadow of a doubt, conclude this round was fired from the rifle they say was used.
Cannot confirm, nor deny.
Only means they cannot, beyond a shadow of a doubt, conclude this round was fired from the rifle they say was used.
Cannot confirm, nor deny.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I can absolutely concur with that. But because of the lack of any real details in the report. it could very well mean that the size and weight doesn't match the size and weight of an 3006 round , In which they would say the same thing, We cant match the round to the rifle . If all you can come up with is a 68 grain fragmented or flattened round , and no fragments left the body, You can rule out that it was an 06 round
The explanation is left vague and subject to interpretation at this point.
My point is the defense Attorneys are going to want to know the size and weight, and it better be in the report and the round better be in evidence to examine it. and if it was lost or thrown out misplaced , Its going to be a big problem for the prosecution to prove it was .
spat
.950 JDJ
No they fucking didn't.
They said it *can't be* matched. That is a very different thing to "it doesn't match".
It's the difference between "we can't tell you what gun it was" vs "we can tell you it wasn't this one".
"Ballistics can't match the buckshot to the suspects shotgun" does *not* mean that wasn't the gun used. It means ballistics *cannot* tell you what gun was used, because buckshot.
The same thing applies to riflrs *most* of the time. A bullet surviving intact enough for a positive match is actually unusual.
It's a FRAGMENT.
Do you understand what the word FRAGMENT means?
Of course it won't match the size and weight of a 30.06 round. It's NOT A COMPLETE BULLET.
OMFG.