Koz
6.5 Creedmoor
Active Shooter at Ft Stewart, GA with fatalities. Shooter now in custody. Developing story.
What is the rationale for this?In general soldiers do not carry loaded firearms on post. I'm sure the MPs do but for regular troops any arms are locked up in the arms room and the ammo is kept in a separate facility. Nor are soldiers permitted to carry privately owned firearms on their person. Privately owned firearms must be either kept off post or in the arms room. Ironically outside of live fire exercises ot for specific duty US military installations are "gun free zones".
Even immediately after 9/11 we were issued out our rifles but no ammo nor even magazines.
Fear over armed individuals.What is the rationale for this?
Probably the same rational that oven, hotplates, electric grills or any other like type of cooking device is banned from the barracks. Microwaves are tge inky cooking device allowed. The brass assumes that soldiers will invariably cause trouble with any device that could cause damage.What is the rationale for this?
When I was in the Navy, we were not allowed to keep personal firearms on base. The base was guarded / patrolled by base police who drove around in Navy grey pickup trucks. We were only allowed to shoot at the base armory when authorized. When I was on the ship, even though I was a "weapons authorized" individual (and a member of the ship's SWAT team), we were only allowed to access weapons from one of the ship's armories for Shore Patrol duty; Brow watches; Repel Boarders drills; daily SWAT drills; and for weapons training and practice when at sea. My firearms were a 1911A, and a full auto M14. Firearms practice was usually held in conjunction with trash dumping over the fantail, so that we could shoot at the seagulls that would swoop down on the trash, which is the only time when they weren't otherwise busy shitting all over the ship. We also had our own contingent of Marines onboard who manned the brig, and escorted the Captain, XO, and Flag officers onboard.In general soldiers do not carry loaded firearms on post. I'm sure the MPs do but for regular troops any arms are locked up in the arms room and the ammo is kept in a separate facility. Nor are soldiers permitted to carry privately owned firearms on their person. Privately owned firearms must be either kept off post or in the arms room. Ironically outside of live fire exercises ot for specific duty US military installations are "gun free zones".
Even immediately after 9/11 we were issued out our rifles but no ammo nor even magazines.
During my time in the Army solders quartered in the barracks were authorized to keep private firearms on post but they must be stored in the company (battery in my case) arms room. To draw your personal arm(s) you would be required to notify your company (battery) CO who you then send the unit armorer to retrieve it out for you. It would behoove one's self to coordinate with your armorer prior to going to the CO lest you annoy tge armorer by being rousted out the the arms room without notice and good luck getting any favors after that. It was my understanding that the CO could NOT deny a soldier access to his privately held firearms without showing, in writing, good cause and that the armorer was to be available at anytime to retrieve it for you, again coordinating with the armorer and CO ahead of time to avoid being inconvenient to them is a good idea lest your arm be unofficially imprisoned from you. After drawing your arm all the usual regulations applied, you may only have it to and from the range, or off and back on to post, with reasonable allowances for brief stops at gas stations, PX, drive through ect. And the firearm may only be transported unloaded and kept separate from any ammunition yadda yards.When I was in the Navy, we were not allowed to keep personal firearms on base. The base was guarded / patrolled by base police who drove around in Navy grey pickup trucks. We were only allowed to shoot at the base armory when authorized. When I was on the ship, even though I was a "weapons authorized" individual (and a member of the ship's SWAT team), we were only allowed to access weapons from one of the ship's armories for Shore Patrol duty; Brow watches; Repel Boarders drills; daily SWAT drills; and for weapons training and practice when at sea. My firearms were a 1911A, and a full auto M14. Firearms practice was usually held in conjunction with trash dumping over the fantail, so that we could shoot at the seagulls that would swoop down on the trash, which is the only time when they weren't otherwise busy shitting all over the ship. We also had our own contingent of Marines onboard who manned the brig, and escorted the Captain, XO, and Flag officers onboard.
For low ranking enlisted, they're probably right about the risk. I've known plenty of those guys, and they'll get in trouble with basically anything.Probably the same rational that oven, hotplates, electric grills or any other like type of cooking device is banned from the barracks. Microwaves are tge inky cooking device allowed. The brass assumes that soldiers will invariably cause trouble with any device that could cause damage.
I don't disagree. Unfortunately. I served with some monumentally stupid soldiersFor low ranking enlisted, they're probably right about the risk. I've known plenty of those guys, and they'll get in trouble with basically anything.
Officers at least should have a sidearm as part of their uniform IMHO. Higher rank enlisted should probably be allowed to carry personal firearms.
But, I can see why you don't want the privates fresh out of boot camp running around with firearms. They would drag in some sand bags and setup a shooting range in the hall of the barracks or something.
Now, this is *only* permissible because they are active duty military, and they have voluntarily waved most of the rest of their constitutional rights when they enlisted, so the 2A is just part of that list.