Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit

[GOYABEAN]

Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit

ALBANY- State Senator Rachel May (D-Syracuse) announced her “Bigger Better Bottle Bill” that would increase deposits for bottles and cans from a nickel to a

midhudsonnews.com

 

[MothMan]

Can you say windfall profits??

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit

ALBANY- State Senator Rachel May (D-Syracuse) announced her “Bigger Better Bottle Bill” that would increase deposits for bottles and cans from a nickel to a

midhudsonnews.com

We don't have to put up with that bullshit down here in the Carolinas, - no deposit law here!

 

[MothMan]

FYI

Unclaimed or Abandoned Deposits - Bottle Bill Resource Guide

Information on bottle bills (beverage container deposit laws) throughout the US and around the world.

www.bottlebill.org

5. New York: In 2008, New York passed a law to escheat 80% of unclaimed deposits. In 2013, New York passed a law which requires $23 million in unclaimed deposits to go the state Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), with the remaining unredeemed deposits going to the state General Fund. Escheated unclaimed deposits in excess of $122.2 million are also designated to the EPF.13

 

[JRtraderny]

Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit

ALBANY- State Senator Rachel May (D-Syracuse) announced her “Bigger Better Bottle Bill” that would increase deposits for bottles and cans from a nickel to a

midhudsonnews.com

just another shakedown of consumers to fill the states coffers.

 

[GOYABEAN]

FYI

Unclaimed or Abandoned Deposits - Bottle Bill Resource Guide

Information on bottle bills (beverage container deposit laws) throughout the US and around the world.

www.bottlebill.org

5. New York: In 2008, New York passed a law to escheat 80% of unclaimed deposits. In 2013, New York passed a law which requires $23 million in unclaimed deposits to go the state Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), with the remaining unredeemed deposits going to the state General Fund. Escheated unclaimed deposits in excess of $122.2 million are also designated to the EPF.13

Governor's hush fund

 

[prambo]

NewYorkistan is loosing tax revenue because working people, at all levels, are leaving.

Many $$$$ problems can be obscured by increasing "cash flow", even if there is no increase in actual revenues.

It's just another consequence of living in The Vampire State.

I never toss away a $0.05 can and sometimes will pick them up off the street. Never let the state keep it.

It's like withholding tax - why pay excess amounts to .GOV each week, and then get thrilled with a "tax return" of your own money which the state has "borrowed" interest free?

It takes a little work, but by the time I retired, I had withholding massaged so at tax time it was as near as possible to a "zero sum game" for fUSA and NewYorkistan taxes.

 

[GOYABEAN]

We don't have to put up with that bullshit down here in the Carolinas, - no deposit law here!

None in PA either

 

[Deplorable Me]

None in PA either

My son's friend in PA brings his NY deposit cans north on trips here. He buys ammo with the proceeds. No deposit in PA but cans are stamped NY deposit. He's a former NY resident with a grudge. FNY!

 

[Deplorable Me]

Collecting bottles and cans will be considered an actual job in NY and you'll have to declare the money on your income tax.

A SUNY 4 year tuition free program.

 

[dwa12479]

Gives a raise to all the dumpster divers.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

My son's friend in PA brings his NY deposit cans north on trips here. He buys ammo with the proceeds. No deposit in PA but cans are stamped NY deposit. He's a former NY resident with a grudge. FNY!

I'm sure NY would consider that a crime.

It would be cool if enough people did that to hurt the state financially. I'll bring cans and bottles back next time if I'm coming this way anyway.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I'm sure NY would consider that a crime.

It would be cool if enough people did that to hurt the state financially. I'll bring cans and bottles back next time if I'm coming this way anyway.

It is a crime. Michigan has it in their law and in NY law. I work in Michigan from time to time. $.10 deposit there. So I turn in my NY cans when I head west. Just enough to say "up yours." I am ungovernable.

 

[ManualF150]

It is, but how are you or they going to prove it? Most pop (soda) sales are cash.

It's really meant for those who have a trailer full of cans/bottles and cash in on thousands of dollars in deposits. Even then, it's questionable if it would even hold up in court.

A friend who worked a summer job at a local bottle depository told me that there was a lot of forgery going on with bottle labels. Like people relabeling non-returnable bottles (really meant for normal recycling streams). Nothing was ever done about it either.

 

[Deplorable Me]

It is, but how are you or they going to prove it? Most pop (soda) sales are cash.

It's really meant for those who have a trailer full of cans/bottles and cash in on thousands of dollars in deposits. Even then, it's questionable if it would even hold up in court.

A friend who worked a summer job at a local bottle depository told me that there was a lot of forgery going on with bottle labels. Like people relabeling non-returnable bottles (really meant for normal recycling streams). Nothing was ever done about it either.

NY will put individual serial numbers on their beer cans. They're that stupid.

 

[Catskillkid]

It is a crime. Michigan has it in their law and in NY law. I work in Michigan from time to time. $.10 deposit there. So I turn in my NY cans when I head west. Just enough to say "up yours." I am ungovernable.

So basically you're saying that you're actually pulling the scam that Newman and Kramer tried?

My brother in Christ...you sir are BASED.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I forsee this having an impact on all those bottle & can recycling centers you see everywhere. If they raise the deposit, the people bringing them in get more money back for each can / bottle. These places make profit on the difference between the deposit and the material recycling value.

 

[Deplorable Me]

So basically you're saying that you're actually pulling the scam that Newman and Kramer tried?

My brother in Christ...you sir are BASED.

Ammo money!

 

[Acer-m14]

paper bags are bad . they kill trees .. plastic bottle are good they save the trees .. now were back to paper bags WTF

 

[Acer-m14]

BTW all bottles are not equal for deposit .. and there fuckin plastic too

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I forsee this having an impact on all those bottle & can recycling centers you see everywhere. If they raise the deposit, the people bringing them in get more money back for each can / bottle. These places make profit on the difference between the deposit and the material recycling value.

I asked the person at a bottle depot place how they make money. She told me the distributors have to give them $0.08 or $0.12 per can/bottle (I don't remember which amount). I had so many beer bottles at the time, I almost called a distributor to come pick them up.

New beer bottles aren't cheap either. A homebrewer might pay up to $1/bottle. A brewery buying many pallets probably can't get them for less than $0.40 each.

Does NY get anything from a keg deposit? I don't think so. Everyone should just buy their beer in a keg.

 

[1075tech]

Collecting bottles and cans will be considered an actual job in NY

Back in the early 90s, I was new to the area and broke. I had a new job but it paid bi-weekly and my first paycheck wouldn't be for a month.

15 minutes a day at the 84/684 interchange was grocery and gas money for a while

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Back in the early 90s, I was new to the area and broke. I had a new job but it paid bi-weekly and my first paycheck wouldn't be for a month.

15 minutes a day at the 84/684 interchange was grocery and gas money for a while

Was there a specific outfit that attracted the most "clients"?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Back in the early 90s, I was new to the area and broke. I had a new job but it paid bi-weekly and my first paycheck wouldn't be for a month.

15 minutes a day at the 84/684 interchange was grocery and gas money for a while

You should see the parking lots the day after a Bills game. Canners a plenty with multiple giant plastic bags. People are such freaking slobs. There were two elderly walkers in my old neighborhood who walked with a plastic bag and picked up the discarded deposit bottles and cans. I hope I'm walking about at their age. You can bet your ass I'll be packing......

Bottle pickers no different than people who chase their brass at the range and come home with more than they brought.

 

[Grimscale]

Bottle pickers no different than people who chase their brass at the range and come home with more than they brought.

our range had to put up a fence and badged gate because someone was coming in and stealing the brass.

 

[1075tech]

When I went to the range last week, they have a sign asking you to clean up your brass. They have a broom and dustpan and a 55 gallon drum to put it in.

Do you think people will actually do it?

I swept up and dumped it in my range box. Haven't sorted it yet but I'm sure I have brass for calibers I don't own

 

[ManualF150]

My ranges wants everything picked up. That includes the brass.

So when I go, I just pick up everything, throw it in ammo case then deal with it when I get home.

I have brass for prolly ever single caliber out there.

Proved useful for the pandemic when my neighbor needed some 6.5 for deer hunting. He bought the bullets he wanted, I had the powder, primers, tooling, and the knowledge. He only wanted 5 rounds. Made it up for him while he waited.

I wound up getting half a deer out of it.

 

[pshift]

You will have a lot more homeless gathering around the supermarket cash machines. They are using photo-copied Coke and 7Up UPC symbiols and using a glue stick to tape over everything before they get to the bottle site which has machines only. It has not and will not ever work since the bottles and cans are crushed and leave no trace of the tampering with the system (genius move, btw).

 

[Varmint]

Meh…I give them to the charities so Idk . I gave 10 cases of various soups that were getting near the best by date… I know they are good well past that but we have some old folks scraping to get by the taxes in skaneateles are stupid