I provided the data in pdf form for your review. You will find all of the data tables and the sources thereof.
HUZZAH ! President Trump is building our WALL !
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You can't defend bad policy with bad policy.
Now again, how does this wall pay for itself?
- If a wall stopped just 9 to 12 percent of these crossings it would pay for itself.
- If a wall stopped half of those expected to successfully enter illegally without going through a port of entry at the southern border over the next 10 years, it would save taxpayers nearly $64 billion — several times the wall’s cost. - Center for Immigration Studies
Bigfoot
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Your answers are all in the pdf I have provided. It clearly breaks down everything you are asking. You clearly haven't read it.
NAS calculates the future fiscal balance immigrants create — taxes paid minus costs. NAS reports fiscal balances as “net present values”, which places a lower value on future expenditures than on current expenditures.
Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Now apply that same logic to a dirty mask.
Countless public services. That genie is already out of the bottle. You need to stop the problem at the source.
One is effective and the other is scientifically proven not to be. Never thought I'd see someone so proudly celebrating their ignorance and being proud of putting a filthy covering over their face to avoid sickness. Before COVID-19 hysteria, if someone wanted to know what would be an effective way to get themselves sick, good advice would be to cover their face with a germ infested covering, and repeat it daily.
Stop panicking. And throw your foolish dust masks away. Your state of panic is going to get you sick.
3 problems. People who are here legally and are citizens use and rely on (any pay into) these services. That's what I meant the genie is already out. How are you going to regulate who gets the services and who doesn't? Remember, it's racist to ask for ID and even the illegals get that now. When the illegals are dying in the streets because they can't get medical care and can't get housing assistance how is that going to go over? Trump is Hitler remember? Who is going to go along with that program? So we can't stop it and we can't regulate it. But even if we could, money isn't the only purpose for the wall. It also prevents a good number of people who we do not know from pouring in and doing us harm with violence and also can dramatically cut down on drugs pouring in to open boarders. You can't drive a truck through the wall and in a port of entry there are detection methods in place that catch a high number of attempts every day.
What in the 9/11 are you on about?
And drugs should be legal anyway.
Again, can’t defend bad policy with bad policy.
Unfortunately, those programs aren't going away. Some people legitimately need them. People that are disabled, or injured veterans, there are countless of legitimate examples. So the problems associated still stand. If we just let all these people die, what would become of our country? One sure way to cut way down on the abuse - eliminate a large portion of people who are not entitled to the services from being here in the first place with a physical barrier. It will also provide further benefits pointed out already.
The fact of the matter is, the President ran on the wall as probably the #1 issue in his campaign. That's who We The People elected to the Presidency. Therefore he is delivering on what 62,984,825 people voted for. If you didn't want the wall, sorry your candidate for that lost by a large margin.
"some people got in one way this one time, therefore everyone should get in every other way too" logic doesn't quite hold water.
BDinPutnam
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Rah rah rah rhymes with blah blah blah.
Fix visa and hiring enforcement and watch these problems disappear. And no need for expensive Pink Floyd fan props.
I refuse to hop onboard for feel good solutions to complex problems.
Fix visa and hiring enforcement and watch these problems disappear. And no need for expensive Pink Floyd fan props.
I refuse to hop onboard for feel good solutions to complex problems.
BDinPutnam
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An I entitled to disabled veteran benifits?
How did you determine this?
People would realize it's not up to the government to babysit them.
Not how it works at all, thankfully.
More voted for the other one, so be careful with "well a lot voted for Trump so deal with it."
"Burglars walked in my front door, so I went out and spent 75k on new mousetraps."
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Just like your wall. It slows the spread. Doesn’t stop it all but slows it. 100,000 viruses from Mexico can come on through with no barrier. The wall or mask usage stops half of them. That’s less people using hospitals. Same same but you are too dense to see it.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Maybe if we put a wall around the prisons, drugs wouldn't get in.
Cavity searches of the COs before shifts would prolly stop them.
Nope your right. Zero disabled vets, or anyone else for that matter.
This country is not a democracy so it really doesn't matter that "she" had more votes. The constitution that you hold so dearly also spells out how our president is elected. Should only the amendments that you agree with be in force?
This country is not a democracy, so "Trump won and now we're doing it his way or the highway" isn't how it works.
No it would not.
Right. Which is why congress and courts have upheld the funding to construct it. All 3 branched were involved.
Why in the world would I care that the government asked itself if it was OK to steal more money from the US taxpayers?
304 vs 227. 304 wins every time. By a lot."Wide margin"
82,000 out of 345 million is a "wide margin"?
You suggested Trump was doing whatever he wanted, unilaterally.