IS PORTLAND THE FORT SUMTER OF TODAY?

[MothMan]

Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

Violent clashes between a massive pro-Trump caravan that drove through Portland, Ore., and Black Lives Matter protesters left at least one person dead in a shooting Saturday evening, according to reports.

www.foxnews.com

 

[dsdmmat]

I know quite a few people out there who are ready for the fight should it spread outside Portland. These Rioters don’t want to come outside the concrete jungle where they are easy prey.

 

[holdover]

No , Washington is the next fort Sumter. I believe they are going to try a color revolution just before or after the election.


General Mark Milley (left) told Congress on Friday that the military will not get involved in the election process or be willing to resolve a disputed vote, should there be conflict over the outcome in November

Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff says the military will NOT intervene in the election or resolve a disputed vote after Biden claimed Trump would have to be dragged from the White House if he refuses to accept defeat

General Mark Milley says military will not intervene in election

General Mark Milley told Congress on Friday the military will not intervene in the election process or be willing to resolve a disputed vote, should Trump refuse to accept defeat in November.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Not sure either side will accept a losing vote. Gaugeing by the response of the last riot in DC the responses of the democratic party , the rioters .

Its going to be a shit show.

 

[fresch]

Just so they follow the constitution,

 

[BDinPutnam]

No.

 

[Dr. Evil]

BREAKING: Trump supporter shot dead in downtown Portland

Amid the riots, one man—now identified by his “Patriot Prayer” hat—was fatally shot in footage caught by multiple livestreamers.

thepostmillennial.com

 

[livingston]

While not to diminish the life of a person ... A few people dying does not mean we are in a civil war. . Now the attempted coup by the liberals we could say we have been in an attempted sedition ...

In one of the first tests of freedom of speech, the House passed the Sedition Act, permitting the deportation, fine, or imprisonment of anyone deemed a threat or publishing “false, scandalous, or malicious writing” against the government of the United States.

The Sedition Act of 1798 | US House of Representatives

 

[holdover]

Colour revolution


Participants in colour revolutions have mostly used nonviolent resistance, also called civil resistance[citation needed]. Such methods as demonstrations, strikes and interventions have aimed to protest against governments seen as corrupt and/or authoritarian and to advocate democracy, and they have built up strong pressure for change.[citation needed] Colour-revolution movements generally became associated with a specific colour or flower as their symbol. The colour revolutions are notable for the important role of non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and particularly student activists in organising creative non-violent resistance[citation needed].

Such movements have had a measure of success as for example in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia's Bulldozer Revolution (2000), in Georgia's Rose Revolution (2003) and in Ukraine's Orange Revolution (2004). In most but not all cases, massive street-protests followed disputed elections or requests for fair elections and led to the resignation or overthrow of leaders regarded by their opponents as authoritarian[citation needed]. Some events have been called "colour revolutions", but differ from the above cases in certain basic characteristics. Examples include Lebanon's Cedar Revolution (2005) and Kuwait's Blue Revolution (2005).

Government figures in Russia, such as Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu (in office from 2012) and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (in office from 2004), have characterised colour revolutions as externally-fuelled acts with a clear goal to influence the internal affairs that destabilise the economy,[need quotation to verify][2] conflict with the law and represent a new form of warfare.[3][4] Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that Russia must prevent colour revolutions: "We see what tragic consequences the wave of so-called colour revolutions led to. For us this is a lesson and a warning. We should do everything necessary so that nothing similar ever happens in Russia".[5]

Colour revolution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BDinPutnam]

Russians are very good at coming up with external boogeyman that ruin everything.

 

[Mosinitis]

Russians are very good at coming up with external boogeyman that ruin everything.

When you have US state department official handing out cookies to protesters in Kiev, foreign interference is hard to deny.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Candyman
Candyman
Candy...

 

[spat]

When you have US state department official handing out cookies to protesters in Kiev, foreign interference is hard to deny.

The US federal government hasn't seen an election anywhere in the world it didn’t want to influence since before WWII.

I wouldn't surprise me if they were trying to rig the election for dog catcher in Timbuktu.

Or POTUS.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

No , Washington is the next fort Sumter. I believe they are going to try a color revolution just before or after the election.


General Mark Milley (left) told Congress on Friday that the military will not get involved in the election process or be willing to resolve a disputed vote, should there be conflict over the outcome in November

Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff says the military will NOT intervene in the election or resolve a disputed vote after Biden claimed Trump would have to be dragged from the White House if he refuses to accept defeat

General Mark Milley says military will not intervene in election

General Mark Milley told Congress on Friday the military will not intervene in the election process or be willing to resolve a disputed vote, should Trump refuse to accept defeat in November.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Not sure either side will accept a losing vote. Gaugeing by the response of the last riot in DC the responses of the democratic party , the rioters .

Its going to be a shit show.

That's essentially the event that triggered fort Sumter.

The south no longer accepted the election results and no longer had confidence in the political process.


I don't think bit matters who wins in November 2020 I think the other side will not accept the results. The left has a clear recent history going back to W beating gore. Every single time a republican has won since 2000 they had led a coordinated effort to undermine and delegitimize the election process a d results. They've spent all of 2015-2020 losing their collevtive minds and I'm sure the election of 2020 will predictibly be an incremental extension of the previous election cycle.

Even if somehow Biden is able to get out of his basement and form semi intelligent coherent statements and he wins, trump has already made innuendos that the mail in votes may not be trustworthy, the democrats have a track record of trying to win through cheating and those on the right have been more awake and engaged than they were in the past. The right which typically has "begrudgingly respected the process" even when their candidate lost may no longer do so in 2020-2021.



Its going to become very interesting.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

A pro trump caravan in LA was also shot at

SWAT swarms LA apartment after 'shots fired at a Trump car caravan'

A standoff was underway at a Woodland Hills apartment complex following a reported shooting near a pro-Trump rally Sunday, according to police.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[prambo]

Just so they follow the constitution,

Yes, DemonRats are noted for that...aren't they...

 

[Mosinitis]

Where is the Secret Service?????????????????

 

[holdover]

That's essentially the event that triggered fort Sumter.

The south no longer accepted the election results and no longer had confidence in the political process.

BINGO! Thats how a lot of civil wars began. A fight to determine who runs Barter town. Not saying its going to happen, But the pieces are in place .I can definitely see the historical precedents . The military is going to stand down, its up to LE . and they are vastly outnumbered.

And I dont see the American people coming to the rescue

 

[Cooolone]

Comparing a Regular Army of a Nation, even one in a civil War, with a bunch of hoodlum miscreants running around causing havoc is completely ridiculous IMO... They are not even remotely in the same class of "civil" unrest or issues, or organization, or purpose!

Sorry... But to answer the Title of this thread, a RESOUNDING NO!

 

[spat]

Comparing a Regular Army of a Nation, even one in a civil War, with a bunch of hoodlum miscreants running around causing havoc is completely ridiculous IMO... They are not even remotely in the same class of "civil" unrest or issues, or organization, or purpose!

Sorry... But to answer the Title of this thread, a RESOUNDING NO!

The hoodlum miscreants sometimes drag the real military into the fight.

It starts with what we've got now.

Then military gets sent in to restore order.

But, what if there are enough shenanigans that it’s no longer universally agreed who the CIC is ?

What happens if Biden and Trump both claim to be the legitimate president ?

BLM and Antifa decide they need to "punch Nazi's" and Trump gives the call for patriots to defend the cities ?

SCOTUS can't make up their mind, or aren't considered legitimate by the losing side ?

This is how history gets made. Very very ugly history.

Lets hope it’s 2020 that's remembered as the shit show of the century and not 2021.

 

[holdover]

Comparing a Regular Army of a Nation, even one in a civil War, with a bunch of hoodlum miscreants running around causing havoc is completely ridiculous IMO... They are not even remotely in the same class of "civil" unrest or issues, or organization, or purpose!

Sorry... But to answer the Title of this thread, a RESOUNDING NO!

Viet Cong
Sandanistas,
American revolutionaries
Cuban revolution.
The break up of the Balkans
the overthrow of the Shah
the over throw of Libya,
The over throw of Egypt
The over throw of Tunisia
The attempted over throw of Assad in Syria.
The over throw of the Ukraine.