oc shooter
.223 Rem
any opinions on whether to buy a Kimber or Sig concealed carry 9mm. I tend toward Kimber 1911 style pistols but am not adverse to trying a Sig
micro 9
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As in 9mm 1911s? Why only those two?
cardinalny
.40 S&W
I have the Sig P938 Equinox and love it. Very easy to conceal, pocket carry, beautiful fit and finish, expensive compared to polymer pocket pistols. Has many different color combinations to choose from.
I’ve never shot a Kimber micro 9.
I have the Kimber micro 9 if I were to buy another one it would be the sig just because it come with an ambi safety. Although you will pay more for the sig so it is a wash if you add the ambi safety on your own. Being left handed it is a feature I appreciate. Other than that they are the same gun with different brand names on them.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
who else is making a small 1911 style pistol in 9mm?
Dan Wesson offers a few such models.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
hadn't thought about Dan Wesson thanks for the heads up
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I have a kimber solo it's a compact 9mm 1911 it's a nice gun. You can't go wrong with either a kimber or a sig though. Mine has the ambi safety. I'd consider selling it if your interested. I have moved away from safeties and rarely carry it.
I have the gun 3 6 round mags 2 8 round mags and a holster. Has about 450 rounds through it.
I have the gun 3 6 round mags 2 8 round mags and a holster. Has about 450 rounds through it.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
was thinking more of the micro. where are u and how much?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I'm in Buffalo area as for how much I was thinking like $600-$650. It's about $900 worth of stuff. I paid $720 for the gun alone.it has custom made walnut grips too. I have the original grips as well.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
price seems fair but Buffalo is a bit too far for me to travel to see the gun. I some time get to Batavia if I don't buy something before the next time I go there I"ll contact you and maybe we could meet and I could look over the gun
I have to ask, if you want a 1911 why 9mm? If you like 9mm why a 1911?
Podmonkey nailed it...
wirehairfan
.40 S&W
The latest issue of Gun Tests magazine reviewed these head-to-head. Both got an A rating. I don't think you can go wrong either way.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
No worries. I understand. The gun is near perfect. There are a few fine scratches near the muzzle. If I took a picture they would not even show up. Other than that it's great. A tiny nick in the bottom from inserting the mag and one by the take down pin from reinserting the takedown pin. I'm being really picky. As for meeting in Batavia we could do that if you want. You could even shoot it if you know of a range/FFl around there. I'm in no hurry so if you want to proceed at some point just reach out
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
1150 to 1250 fps vs 700 to 850 fps from a 3 inch barrel.
Why bother with a 1911 at all then is my point.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Cardinalny has a good choice. Some Models can be found new at a reasonable price. For example, the P938 can be routinely had for under 450 on GB (400 + 15 shipping + local transfer) in the Sports model (essentially Cardinalny's equinox with hogue rubber grip less the polished slide but it usually includes a bonus extended 7rd mag along with the std 6rd mag). I love mine I recently got after hearing recommendations from Cardinalny and this forum. I find it a sound choice as a BUG, or in deeper cover where a larger choice can not conceal. Personally if this was going to be your only EDC, however, and you were not going to include pocket / ankle carry but were just holster carrying IWB / OWB, I would opt for a larger single stack.
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Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Most 1911 manufacturers have 9mm in a 4.25 inch commander length barrel. There are also a number of nice sub commander 4.25 in barrels around e.g. Sig Ultra, Springfield EMP, Dan Wesson, Colt.
1911 Ultra-Compact
1911 Two-Tone Ultra-Compact
1911 EMP® 4” Concealed Carry Contour 9mm - Springfield Armory
ECO - Dan Wesson
Colt Defender™ Series
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Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Get a micro. Personally i would (and have) get it in 380 as they are a bit smaller. Mine is a pocket gun. Pocket gun = smallest possible.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
so much to say! 1st i already have a smith body guard 380 with a laser 2nd i personally like the 1911 platform and have trained with it for over 30 years is it a dinasour yup but so am i 3rd 9mm has a bit more punch than my 380. i've tried the striker fiered glocks and m&p's they just don't work for me i don't hate them just don't like them very much the triggers aren't my cup of tea although i had a chance to shoot the beretta apx at the range the other day and it had the best stock trigger on that type of gun for me so far. if i ever try another striker fired polymer gun i think that would be it.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
thanks for the links i haven't thought about colt in a long time looks like they may be in the running
682SuperSport
.40 S&W
I personally would like to add a Sig p938 to my EDC list someday but I don't think you can go wrong with a Kimber or a Sig. I would personally pick the Sig because it comes with an ambi safety and night sights. The night sights would be more of the deciding factor for me as I want them on all my carry guns.
682SuperSport
.40 S&W
I do agree with Bullet guy if you're looking for a pocket gun keeping it small and light is important. I've heard of people using these 9mm guns as pocket guns but I wouldn't go any bigger than 380 for pocket carry myself. Do consider though the sig and kimber 380 models, the p238 and micro 380 respectively.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Good background info. I had a similar quest. It looks like your main choices would be the Sig, Colt, and Kimber. I have shot all three and picked the Sig. No doubts. Shot better for me. In this format, 9mm can challenge the EDC reliability expectations ( go bang everytime, no exceptions) in essentially a one pound or less gun. Although most of the delivered guns for these and other similar sized choices are trouble free, exceptions are not rare. My decision to chose a P938 also included the fact that Sig has a lifetime warranty, customer service is quite good, and service is pretty quick. Kimber and Colt limit their warranty to one year but I am aware of times they stood behind a product outside of the warranty. Similarly I am also aware of sig providing warranty service to owners who were not the original owner covered under their lifetime warranty. To confuse you even more, the 9mm variants to accommodate the larger round are slightly larger / heavier than their 380 siblings but that may eliminate them for consideration for some shooters. I believe that the Lehigh xtreme penetrator / xtreme defender bullet (also used in Underwood rounds) provide a potency that can help bring 380 into consideration as an EDC for more carriers. Although less impressive, the XTP bullet used in several manufacturers rounds provide 380 performance that was not available several years ago. The 1911 like 9mm and 380 acp variants pocket carry and shoot differently. (I own both a P238 and P938). Sometimes the P938 pocket carries better (on some pants it better fills the pocket and does not shift) and sometimes the P238 pocket carries better (on lighter fabric material the lesser 380 weight, most of which is from the lighter round, visually pulls the fabric less). For me both shoot well (as fast and accurate as some larger service size choices) but some shooters find follow up shots are noticeably quicker with the lighter shooting 380.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That and the safety is why I'm considering selling the kimber micro I have. It's just a tad too big to be a pocket gun. I'm going with the ruger LCP. Of course that's a .380, but I'll only carry it a few times per year here and there. Just when I need really deep concealment in pocket or waiste band carry. Just wen I get dressed up or if it's really hot or something like that. I only worry about penetration with the .380 round so if I'm just shooting through a suit coat or t shirt I think I'm good. They are making many improvements in ammo these days especially in 9mm, but I think .380 will be coming up fast. It's popular these days.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
I like the XTP but the extreme penteator or defender has me concerned about ricohettes . A hollowpoint deforms enough that a ricoheetes might not penetrate as much if someone was hit or travel as far.
Is there any data out there on it.
oc shooter
.223 Rem
well bought the Micro wish me luck
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't know if such a thing has recorded statistics but back in the days before hollow points when FMJ's, Semi Wadcutters, and Hard Cast Flat Points where the norm being used, there wasn't a high incidence rate of ricochets that made a difference for people to be concerned about.
The tips of the Xtreme Penetrators are flat vs round nosed like a FMJ would in .380 be anyway.