Missouri Gov. Mike Parson signed a bill that prohibits local police officers from enforcing federal gun laws.
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S&W Fan
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One small step forward. Other Red states Need to continue the momentum.
Deplorable Me
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Didn't the locals already do that in Chicago?
ArmedCorgi
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I think they will. Here the legislature has indicated that they want to make Utah a 2A sanctuary state and all 29 county sheriffs have officially stated they will not enforce new federal gun control.
Utah's 29 Sheriffs Vow to Protect 2A Rights from Federal Gun Controls
Utah's 29 sheriffs signed a statement pledging to protect Second Amendment rights from federal gun controls.
www.breitbart.com
Blimey
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I've no problem with it in this context, but to be devil's advocate if this becomes a regular thing for different levels of government to do it could greatly undermine the constitution when it comes to other issues. If this really gained traction nationally--not enforcing federal laws--the federal government's response would be to increase the number of federal police, and everyone will pay for that whether they want to or not.
Acer-m14
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it works for sanctuary Zones to block ICE .. States have rec cannabis use .. but against fed law .. smoke up zones ..
libertysnake
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That's why the solution is to bring taxes local. You defang the feds from their need tax and give back, then you defang their ability to move money around or hold that against states they don't like.
Bring social services local. Bring the highways local only. Bring anything outside of national defense coordination and maybe some other stuff like ports -- local.
If you keep their budget thin, they won't have resources to push an agenda.
gun_slinger_boy
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When do local police enforce fed laws? It's the states that are more restrictive.
ArmedCorgi
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Bottom line, if the federal government tries to usurp the Constitution and it's authority, it is the states' obligation to set it right. We aren't talking about the federal government passing a law or laws that are within the Constitution and the feds authority and states rebelling. We are talking about the feds potentially passing blatently unconstitutional laws that it is forbidden from passing. I'd much rather have whole states pushing back then just some orgs filing lawsuits.
butttttt federal gun laws are not constitutional
gun_slinger_boy
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Right. If you step back and think about it we've already let waaaaay to much go into law as the 2A is very simple an concise.
Blimey
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IRS have guns now, though
This x 1,000.
spat
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There shouldn't *be* federal criminal laws that apply to the general public.
Maybe a few anti-corruption laws that bind state agents, and the UCMJ but that's it.
Roll the "commerce clause" back to where it's supposed to be (only settling disputes between the states and ensuring free trade between them) and all that BS would go away.
The notion that the feds can ban a common weed because someone might sell it to a neighboring state and that's "interstate commerce" is ridiculous on it's face.
Let the games begin
news.yahoo.com
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
gun_slinger_boy
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They'll fold like a cheap suit once withholding money is threatened.Let the games begin
Justice Dept.: Missouri governor can't void federal gun laws
The Justice Department is warning Missouri officials that the state can’t ignore federal law, after the governor signed a bill last week that bans police from enforcing federal gun rules. In a letter sent Wednesday night and obtained by The Associated Press, Justice officials said the U.S...
Acer-m14
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DOJ you going to write a letter now to Biden about the WALL and immigration laws .. then go arrest his ass and your self's
ArmedCorgi
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This is where it gets tricky and we'll see how much resolve the states have. The feds will throw the supremacy clause at the states and that would technically be the end of it. The states would lose in court. However, bringing something like this to court would be basically fast tracking the federal gun control through the courts. Maybe my non legal brain isn't looking at it the right way, but it seems to me that the supremacy clause doesn't give the feds the right to violate the Constitution and that the states have an obligation or at least a standing to keep the feds in check when this happens.