Russia started mass deportation of migrants after the terrorist attack at Crocusa

[OwnTheRide]

Your still living back in 1990. I guess your not aware they have the ability to jam GPS .Most of our missile technology is pretty old they have the most robust anti air defenses in the world.And the ability to counter strike before the missiles ever landed. It wouldn't go as easy you think .

I won't say there aren't vulnerabilities in our military capabilities - for example, I worry about over-reliance on tech - but I do know two things:

1) Ever since WWII, air dominance has been THE deciding factor in wars
2) US military absolutely, indisputably, dominates the air. There's no one/nothing even remotely close. Russian air defenses are a straight-up joke compared to our air capabilities - they wouldn't know we were there until the bombs hit them.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yep, I was gonna say he's deporting them on planes supplied by the Brandon crime family. They landed at Kennedy this afternoon.

Well Brandon did say at the state of the union board a plane to Russia with me.

 

[spat]

except for one thing, the size of the Russian army has tripled , the production rate has gone through the roof . their missile and tank production has tripled , They are now ahead of the west in drone technology and production. The US is producing 20,000 155 shells per month , the rate of fire required by Ukraine is 6000 155 rounds a day. The Russians are producing 200,000 a month and growing, the tank manufactured doubled from 200 T90's a month to 450 a month, Ukraine cant get or make any more tanks except in small batches , the lancet long range loitering drone is wreaking havoc on Ukraine and they are making them by the thousands .

And Im not getting any ROI only higher taxes . The foreseable future is that we will end up in a new cold war with Russia for no good reason . thats the best case scenario. Nobody is going to drive the Russians out of Ukraine. Ukraine has admitted they are critically low on air defense missiles, they were forced to move some batterys near the front from Kiev where they were destroyed . That left kiev open to a missile attack and The Russians saw the opportunity to kick em in the nuts .

The US will not send ground troops period. they may send aircraft , but no ground forces . and I doubt they do that .

Their size has tripled, soon they will be as big as North Korea.

Counting uniforms is a terrible way to measure military effectiveness.

The only measure that the Russian military has improved at, is they have learned a lot of things they used to think are wrong.

It only took them losing half their experienced troops to do it.

 

[holdover]

Their size has tripled, soon they will be as big as North Korea.

Counting uniforms is a terrible way to measure military effectiveness.

The only measure that the Russian military has improved at, is they have learned a lot of things they used to think are wrong.

It only took them losing half their experienced troops to do it.

As usual, you never looked into it.

 

[dsdmmat]

Imagine that. A government moving to protect itself and its people. Such a novel concept.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Putin should be Trump's VP pick. Imagine if we did the same with a new administration. The left would have an even bigger meltdown. It would be...

EPIC!

 

[spat]

As usual, you never looked into it.

Well, I'll give it to you that you're not falling for MSM propaganda.

But, you're falling for Russian propaganda instead.

Imagine if we tried to invade Mexico, but got stuck for 2 years in the first 100 miles. Would anyone take us seriously after that ? Should they ?

 

[Mosinitis]

Perhaps some kind of drive-by war can be won against Russia as someone theorized here, but as it stands Russia is winning the biggest military conflict since WWII. They are not even fully mobilized.

 

[spat]

Perhaps some kind of drive-by war can be won against Russia as someone theorized here, but as it stands Russia is winning the biggest military conflict since WWII. They are not even fully mobilized.

They are being stalemated by a third rate nobody using NATO hand me downs.

I think Desert Storm was a bigger war.

Much, much shorter, but bigger.

 

[Xae289]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Russia is currently winning a proxy war against an albeit, smaller, nation. The thing is that Ukraine is funded, armed, and supplied by all of NATO. They're getting NATO training, NATO (mostly American) money, American and German tanks and armored vehicles, and all kind of small arms and artillery. It's not even being provided with a hint of covertness. That's without even considering whatever actually secret aid is being given in terms of special forces and spy agencies (Nordstream pipeline, the Moscow attack). Hell, Macron is at the point of openly threatening to launch France fully into the war.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran, China, Russia successfully helped to arm America's enemies causing us tons of headaches in Iraq and an ultimately self-inflicted loss in Afghanistan. But it was done with at least a veneer of secrecy and at a much smaller scale. The West is unabashedly gearing up Ukraine and keeping them in the fight. Russia's performance early in the war was a joke. Since then, they've seriously improved and are bleeding Ukraine white with the West willing to fight to the last Ukrainian in order to stack up the Russian body count. As it stands, Russia currently controls Crimea and most of eastern and southern Ukraine. By the way, Russia is fighting this war and is still providing assistance to African nations to undermine France's post-colonial African economic hegemony.

Russia is certainly being hurt by this war, but they are no pushover. The war is hurting the West financially and destabilizing us even as it hurts and destabilizes Russia.

 

[spat]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Russia is currently winning a proxy war against an albeit, smaller, nation. The thing is that Ukraine is funded, armed, and supplied by all of NATO. They're getting NATO training, NATO (mostly American) money, American and German tanks and armored vehicles, and all kind of small arms and artillery. It's not even being provided with a hint of covertness. That's without even considering whatever actually secret aid is being given in terms of special forces and spy agencies (Nordstream pipeline, the Moscow attack). Hell, Macron is at the point of openly threatening to launch France fully into the war.

In Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran, China, Russia successfully helped to arm America's enemies causing us tons of headaches in Iraq and an ultimately self-inflicted loss in Afghanistan. But it was done with at least a veneer of secrecy and at a much smaller scale. The West is unabashedly gearing up Ukraine and keeping them in the fight. Russia's performance early in the war was a joke. Since then, they've seriously improved and are bleeding Ukraine white with the West willing to fight to the last Ukrainian in order to stack up the Russian body count. As it stands, Russia currently controls Crimea and most of eastern and southern Ukraine. By the way, Russia is fighting this war and is still providing assistance to African nations to undermine France's post-colonial African economic hegemony.

Russia is certainly being hurt by this war, but they are no pushover. The war is hurting the West financially and destabilizing us even as it hurts and destabilizes Russia.

I'm not really seeing how the west is being hurt.

Sure, we're pouring money in like it was water, but if it wasn't Ukraine, our swindler in chief would have found someplace else to launder it.

The actual material we are sending is largely old stock that we were due to replace soon.

Half of NATO is sending Ukriane F16s so that we can replace them with F35s.

Most of the missiles have a specific shelf life. They were going to be done soon too.

Raytheon and their buddies certainly aren't suffering, and honestly I'd rather see the tax dollars go there than some green grift outfit.

There was never the possibility that the taxpayers were going to *keep* that money.

 

[Mosinitis]

There was gambling in Casablanca after all.

https://www.rt.com/russia/595075-moscow-crocus-attack-money-ukraine/

The suspects in last week’s Moscow terrorist attack were linked to Ukrainian nationalists, the Russian Investigative Committee stated on Thursday, citing preliminary findings. The perpetrators had received “significant sums of money” from Ukraine, the law enforcement agency said.

The investigators have obtained “substantiated evidence” that the suspected assailants received funding from Ukraine in the form of cryptocurrency, which was then used to prepare the terrorist attack, the statement read.