Stag Varminter

[Vapor]

Thinking about trying one of these out. Stag can ship one with a Thordsen cheaper than I could buy one.

Stag 15 Varminter

My only concern is a 24" upper is a heavy beast. Most reviews seem quite positive on accuracy and Stag rifles in general.

I already may have some 16" rifles...so this seems "different" and already has a trigger upgrade.

 

[Robin]

I have the Varminter in 6.8 and it is a tack driver. I don't find it too heavy.
Robin

 

[Saltwater60]

They also have the fixed stock you can get right from them.
10 lbs is a heavy riffle. What are your plans for the gun?

 

[camper4lyfe]

They also have the fixed stock you can get right from them.
10 lbs is a heavy riffle. What are your plans for the gun?

I agree. The AR I built is right around 10 pounds, and I wouldn't want to carry it much farther than the bench.

 

[Vapor]

I lack a semi auto target rifle, so that is pretty much what I was looking for. Otherwise, I pretty much have all my bases covered 2 or 3 times over.

I even have a weaver grand slam mil dot scope I could move around for it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I think a 24 inch barrel is unnecessary unless it's a bench gun for precision shooting and even then, you can still be precise with a shorter barrel.

https://rifleshooter.com/2015/12/22...el-length-and-velocity-26-inches-to-6-inches/

 

[Marine Cpl]

Have you considered this combo? This lower below along with any upper of your choice will get you this.

SCR Rifle Lowers

 

[Robin]

SCR Rifle Lowers
Thats pretty steep and doesn't it also require a special bolt carrier to be used in your AR upper assembly ? I like it but Damn!!!
Robin

 

[nortatoga]

SCR Rifle Lowers
Thats pretty steep and doesn't it also require a special bolt carrier to be used in your AR upper assembly ? I like it but Damn!!!
Robin

Robin the lower comes with the BCG.

 

[Robin]

Well that would certainly ease the pain.
Robin

 

[nortatoga]

Well that would certainly ease the pain.
Robin

Just a little! I got mine used and unfired for $599.00.

 

[Vapor]

I already have a thordsen lower.

Stag took them off sale, plus I hear Stags turn around time is awful for uppers or complete guns.

Any other options for just a crowned upper?

 

[Vapor]

Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't this model be legal here?

M&P®15 SPORT™ II - CA COMPLIANT* | Smith & Wesson

Are the fin grips not approved?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't this model be legal here?

M&P®15 SPORT™ II - CA COMPLIANT* | Smith & Wesson

Are the fin grips not approved?

We don't have laws defining pistol grips like California does. They used a piece of kydex to get around the written law.

California's law says, "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon” means a gripthat allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top exposed portion of the trigger while firing.”

We don't have a definition so in the end it could be a pistol grip with just a piece of kydex attached to the end of it and no different than a pistol grip with a nail or something attached to it.

 

[Vapor]

Ah, but if my dealer hypothetically took the transfer, and a thordsen was affixed before I took possession, the rest of the features fall in line.



Maybe I'll just pick up a mini14 to play with.

 

[Saltwater60]

Ah, but if my dealer hypothetically took the transfer, and a thordsen was affixed before I took possession, the rest of the features fall in line.



Maybe I'll just pick up a mini14 to play with.

Yes if your dealer is willing to do that. Many are not from what I hear.

I like the AR platform way better than the mini. You can swap calibers with AR’s way easier plus lots of after market stuff. You may move and could convert it back at some point. AR parts are way cheaper and you can fix or replace parts you don’t like much easier like triggers and handguards.

 

[@thewheels]

I already have a thordsen lower.

Stag took them off sale, plus I hear Stags turn around time is awful for uppers or complete guns.

Any other options for just a crowned upper?

I'd like to try this upper down the road

EXT 20” Complete Upper with Bull Barrel – Anderson Manufacturing

Or I might just order an 18inch form PSA like this and have a thread protector pinned/welded

PSA 18" Rifle-Length .223 Wylde 1/7 Stainless Steel 15" Lightweight M-Lok Upper with MBUS Sight Set, BCG, & CH - 5165448415

 

[Robin]

Stag won't ship to NY unless they fix the magazine. I don't know about the Thordson option.
Robin

 

[Vapor]

I'd like to try this upper down the road

EXT 20” Complete Upper with Bull Barrel – Anderson Manufacturing

Or I might just order an 18inch form PSA like this and have a thread protector pinned/welded

PSA 18" Rifle-Length .223 Wylde 1/7 Stainless Steel 15" Lightweight M-Lok Upper with MBUS Sight Set, BCG, & CH - 5165448415

I like the looks of that Anderson upper, but the poverty pony scares me quality wise.

Pinned and welded is a gray area no?

I like this upper from PA

PSA 18" CHF 223 Wylde 1:8 Rifle Length 15" Lightweight M-lok Upper - No BCG or CH - 5165448089


Still looking for something crowned possibly.

 

[@thewheels]

I like the looks of that Anderson upper, but the poverty pony scares me quality wise.

Pinned and welded is a gray area no?

For the price of the Anderson, I'd give it a go unless I was looking for a bench rest upper.

AFAIK, pinned and welded should be gtg. I believe it was the standard for muzzle devices from most manufactures that shipped to NY.

 

[Vapor]

Interesting, does anyone have shooting experience on an Anderson?

 

[Vapor]

Just as an update, I ended up going with this. 18" upper with a 416R 1/8 Wylde stainless barrel.

 

[@thewheels]

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Just as an update, I ended up going with this. 18" upper with a 416R stainless barrel.

Looks good to me. Where did you end up finding that one?

 

[Vapor]

Looks good to me. Where did you end up finding that one?

JSE Surplus

JSE Surplus


They have a lot of target crowned uppers for those of us in ban states. All with Wilson barrels usually. Good feedback on ar15.com

 

[Dantheman]

I have a similar upper from JSE Surplus. With Federal Match or my handloads it's a tack driver.

Dan

 

[JamieZ]

JSE Surplus

JSE Surplus


They have a lot of target crowned uppers for those of us in ban states. All with Wilson barrels usually. Good feedback on ar15.com

For the non pinned mag AR version, any barrel can be used as long as the threads are covered. They sell thread caps for cheap and can be easily soldered or pinned on. So you can buy any upper you want and use it, as long as it has a 16" barrel. Just in case you planned on buying another one

 

[@thewheels]

For the non pinned mag AR version, any barrel can be used as long as the threads are covered. They sell thread caps for cheap and can be easily soldered or pinned on. So you can buy any upper you want and use it, as long as it has a 16" barrel. Just in case you planned on buying another one

You'll want a Reaction Rod/Barrel Spline Socket Rod or a Magpul Bev Block to properly remove whatever muzzle device is installed at the factory so you can install the thread protector.
Some of those A2 fh's (and various other muzzle devices) have been torqued on by Thor himself.

 

[togmaster]

You'll want a Reaction Rod/Barrel Spline Socket Rod or a Magpul Bev Block to properly remove whatever muzzle device is installed at the factory so you can install the thread protector.
Some of those A2 fh's (and various other muzzle devices) have been torqued on by Thor himself.

Without a doubt the Barrel Spline Socket Rod is the way to go.

 

[Vapor]

Yes, but still a legal gray area. We don't talk about welded thread protector club online.

 

[JamieZ]

Yes, but still a legal gray area. We don't talk about welded thread protector club online.

Its not a legal gray area whatsoever. Never heard of anyone who thinks that way or are you just joking around ?