Update On New York State Non-Resident Permit: It’s Official. Officially.
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah. At first I was pissed because he got it so quick. From Albany no less.
I’m glad to see this, as I plan to keep my Unrestricted NY permit after I move to NC next month.
Beah
.40 S&W
This is what I said too - this guy had a thread going on Reddit and many others chimed in with the same thought process.
MadScientist
.45 acp
Good to know for when I ever leave this hell hole
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I don't see any pistols listed on there.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i do not see Non-Resident on it .. just a normal NY PP with a FL addy .
Wrong, chemung county will issue nonresidents licenses to those who live in Bradford county PA
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
So what was the process exactly? I moved out of state but never informed the PP office. This makes me wonder if I should get in contact with them.
Well, you are required to report any change of address even in state. Just saying...
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I know. But maybe I didn't know will work. Nothing to lose I guess.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
as long as you own property in New Yorkistan, you can maintain your permit.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Send an amendment with a change of address. That's it.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Owning property in the state is a requirement? Not just a physical address for mail and such?
M_F
.45 acp
Only to those Bradford county residents who own property or work in chemung county.
M_F
.45 acp
I believe that only applies to first time applicants. There is case law about part time NY residents who mostly live out of state, but there is nothing specific about FORMER NY residents that no longer have a relation to NY. Some counties will let you keep your NY permit with an out of state address, other counties will cancel it.
no im specifically stating that Chemung issues NY licenses to Bradford County residents. They could have never once lived in New York, as long as they have their PA LTCFA and either own property, work, or conduct business IN New York
NY, PA Counties Cooperate on Pistol Permit Issue
M_F
.45 acp
I do not remember reading that last part a few years ago. Since there is nothing in NYS law about non residents applying for a NY pistol lisence, only case law regarding part time residents, a future licensing officer can take that option away.
ok so they in the future could whats your point?
all i said is they are getting them now and have been able to
I will have to deal with this soon.
I have a home in PA and a home and business in NYS.
Right now I have permits in both states.
As soon as we sell the NYS property Ill see what I can do.
My family is all in NYS, within 15 miles of the PA border.
My life takes place 50/50 in NY and PA.
I live in both states, I work in NY, I shop in PA, I do business in PA........
Its a very odd thing to live literally on a state border. Our PA home property line is the NYS border.
Especially 2 states with completely different laws.
We pay no attention to the invisible line, unfortunately the law does.
I have a home in PA and a home and business in NYS.
Right now I have permits in both states.
As soon as we sell the NYS property Ill see what I can do.
My family is all in NYS, within 15 miles of the PA border.
My life takes place 50/50 in NY and PA.
I live in both states, I work in NY, I shop in PA, I do business in PA........
Its a very odd thing to live literally on a state border. Our PA home property line is the NYS border.
Especially 2 states with completely different laws.
We pay no attention to the invisible line, unfortunately the law does.
im not sure what county in PA you are living in now..... and no need to throw that out here, but if its Bradford then you can still get your license here in Chemung (Sheriff Moss is the shit, hopefully he wins county County Executive) but following Chemung and Bradfords joining together to help each other out (we in new york didnt get anything tbh but the PA people got the opportunity to carry here in new york) i believe 1 or 2 other NY and PA counties did the same thing Steuben comes to mind but im not 100% sure
M_F
.45 acp
There is no NYS law, or case law about former New Yorkers keeping their pistol license once they move out of state, or out of state residents with no New York connections being eligible to apply for one, the exception being those 2 PA counties.
yea we have established that.. whats your point? because there is no law its illegal? is that what you are saying? or are you saying that because the county which by NY law is the ones who have the power to approve and deny applications gave these people a license the license magically isnt valid because there is NO law?
and what do you mean no new york connections, as stated by the sheriff for those who frequently conduct business in the county, guess spending money and time in the area doesnt count as connection to new york
fartgamer
.223 Rem
You don’t need to own anything, just have an address to give them.
M_F
.45 acp
My point was simple, with the exception of Bradford County,PA non NY residents are SOL if they want a pistol license, and not every NY resident that moves out of state will get to keep their pistol license. I don’t know where you got the idea that I was invalidating the NY licenses of Bradford county residents. I also found case law from the second circus that tells non residents no license for you.
FindLaw's United States Second Circuit case and opinions.
FindLaw's United States Second Circuit case and opinions.
I believe you are wrong about that. There is a court decision about that exact issue. I will find the info and post it here.
Here it is: Osterweil v. Bartlett
M_F
.45 acp
I should have been more clear, as in no NY property ownership, Mr Osterweil still owned a home in NY, even though he spent most of his time in Louisiana. Bradford County, PA residents can also apply because of a reciprocity agreement with Chemug County.