Three Buffalo Starbucks vote to unionize.

[Saltwater60]

I can’t wait to see how this gets handled. These ungrateful fuckers want $23/hour.

Starbucks workers in Buffalo to decide this week whether to form coffee chain's first U.S. union

Starbucks workers at three cafes in Buffalo, New York, voted this week to decide if they will form a union.

www.cnbc.com

 

[kev74]

In unrelated news, 3 Buffalo Starbucks are slated to close.

#fakenews

 

[BuffNiag]

Overpriced burnt coffee to begin with. Making coffee is not a trade and is not worth $23/hr. These stores will all go out of business within a year.

 

[libertysnake]

I kind of don't care of they unionize, but I also won't care if they all lose their jobs. Business is business. People can unionize for better wages, but if they're not realistic in their worth then they'll be quickly replaced.

It sounds like these people have illusions of grandeur with regard to being a barista and the worth the position has. Reality will come at them quickly, I suspect.

 

[@thewheels]

In unrelated news, 3 Buffalo Starbucks are slated to close.

#fakenews

Oh C'mon...the window lickers will still be 8 deep at the counter to pay $16 for a cup of crappy coffee.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I can’t wait to see how this gets handled. These ungrateful fuckers want $23/hour.

Starbucks workers in Buffalo to decide this week whether to form coffee chain's first U.S. union

Starbucks workers at three cafes in Buffalo, New York, voted this week to decide if they will form a union.

www.cnbc.com

Real men drink Tim Hortons.

 

[oc shooter]

hey I'm with them all the way if they can get it GOD bless them if they lose at least they tried

 

[jimc]

I've belonged to two unions. Both held back my career and income. My pay and position are now based on my performance, not some chart/job title. I'm much better off and never plan to be part of a union again.

 

[oc shooter]

It's been my experience that unions like everything else is what you make of them lucky for me my teamster local had and still has a very involved membership and after 38 years of service between 2 locals I have a very good pension that's pretty well funded for 1 and not so much by the other. It's the same old thing if you don't attend the meetings and vote and talk to other members you will have a pretty shitty time of it and I'll say it again GOD bless anyone who try's to better them selves

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I hope they're aware of possible unintended consequences.

They may all be out of jobs in the near future.

I hope the customers enjoy paying 9$for a coffee because the workers think their career is worth that.

 

[Defilade]

In all reality with inflation, $23 hr is today's $10. chump change.

 

[Saltwater60]

I too project they will pull something. They will close the stores or they will fire all workers and bring others in to replace them as Kelloggs is doing currently.

 

[Saltwater60]

I've belonged to two unions. Both held back my career and income. My pay and position are now based on my performance, not some chart/job title. I'm much better off and never plan to be part of a union again.

I’m in a union now and my dues are so cheap I don’t mind it.
I was on one at my last job and I was promoted to a supervisor so I exited the union. When Oshittercare came about they jacked up my health insurance so much it was ridiculous. The union guys were paying $30/week for full family health care that was much better than mine and I was paying $5,500/year. I’d have happily joined the union again.
Since this the plant has had trouble getting anyone to jump from hourly to supervisory work.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I've belonged to two unions. Both held back my career and income. My pay and position are now based on my performance, not some chart/job title. I'm much better off and never plan to be part of a union again.

That is all well and good unless you are the beer-bellied seniority guy who gets all the overtime, vacation picks, and other perks because of his well, you know, seniority.
Wait until one of these "kids" has a beef. Hey boss, can I have next Tuesday off? Sorry Kid. You no longer have any individual rights and can no longer talk to me as an individual. You signed over your rights to the collective. What does the contract say about your days off? Old puss gut has Tuesday off and he has seniority over you. So I guess I will see you on Tuesday.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

My experience with unions is that they:

More often than not:
- Take your money with little in return.
- Protect shitbags who don't deserve to be there in the first place.
- "Negotiate" to get said shitbags more money for doing next to nothing.
- Create a mentality where those who do believe in working hard are shunned by those determined not to.

Very rarely:
- Stand up for good people if it doesn't further their own goals.

I know of someone in my wife's union that has been charged with theft, harassment, and even responsible for someone's death due to his own negligence. He's still employed and gotten back pay and back benefits and no demotions or consequences of any kind. This is what I see union's doing.

 

[fresch]

All depends on what Union you are in.
It passed by the way.

 

[That_FNG]

Unions care about employees as much as the corporate bosses. Unions only care about collecting dues and having power. I work in a shop that is Union and see more often than not how the union holds back good employees. The only person who looks out for each employees interest is that employee their self

 

[livingston]

It's been my experience that unions like everything else is what you make of them lucky for me my teamster local had and still has a very involved membership and after 38 years of service between 2 locals I have a very good pension that's pretty well funded for 1 and not so much by the other. It's the same old thing if you don't attend the meetings and vote and talk to other members you will have a pretty shitty time of it and I'll say it again GOD bless anyone who try's to better them selves

My brother worked at a grocery store as a kid . Had a union.. all they did was take dues from his pay .. Never had any benefit for him or any other workers

 

[Saltwater60]

My brother worked at a grocery store as a kid . Had a union.. all they did was take dues from his pay .. Never had any benefit for him or any other workers

Tops?

 

[holdover]

I worked for a union before and they made me put so much money away every week for a health care fund, I was single, healthy with no kids and did'nt want to do it, but the commies made me . when I left the union I asked the hall for my money back, they said they cant give it back but you can use it . I asked them if it was my money or thiers , they said its yours, I said how is mine when I have to ask you for it and you wont give it to me? I asked if I am making intrest on it they no its not an investment fund. So they get to keep my money earn interest on my money and I cant have it. But its mine. Nice. I still have a few K in the account that I cant get

 

[BerettaGuy]

I haven't been to Starbucks in years. (and that was at an airport).
I can just see it now.
Hey you! Stop pouring the cream in the coffee. That is my job! What are you trying to do steal hours from me?
Sorry, the customer asked me for more cream.
Too bad! Until you get the seniority don't touch the cream. You just tell the customer to ask me.
But you were busy! I don't care it's in the contract. Stop stealing my work.
Next time I'm calling the Steward and I will file a grievance on you.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I haven't been to Starbucks in years. (and that was at an airport).
I can just see it now.
Hey you! Stop pouring the cream in the coffee. That is my job! What are you trying to do steal hours from me?
Sorry, the customer asked me for more cream.
Too bad! Until you get the seniority don't touch the cream. You just tell the customer to ask me.
But you were busy! I don't care it's in the contract. Stop stealing my work.
Next time I'm calling the Steward and I will file a grievance on you.

Two weeks after graduating from Highschool got a job at a factory.
Steelworkers Union Business Agent had a mandatory meeting.
He made sure we all saw his pearl-handled revolver in his shoulder holster as he got out of his Lincoln Continental.
This was in St Louis, MO, a very unionized mob-controlled town. At one time the unsolved car bombing capital of the world. The mob leaders and Union leaders were blowing each other up as well as other creative hits.
That is why I enjoyed the Sopranos when they landed the "union" jobs. I actually saw that first hand.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Wait until these kids all realize they're going to have to pay into the union and lose personal freedom and identities.

My first ever job was in a grocery store. It was a union. It was absolutely useless at everything other than taking my money. I think I was earning like 5.15 an hour getting 15-20 hours a week after school and weekends and my union dues were like 8 or9$ a week or something. I had to essentially work 2 hours or about 10% of my week just to pay the union to be able to work.

I've had far more negative experiences with unions than positive ones. I just hope the Starbucks people all get exactly what they wanted.

 

[Saltwater60]

So the full story is 3 stored voted and 1 passed, one declined, and one is contested.

 

[Keyzard]

It appears quite a few of us paid our union dues at Tops......worked there for two years during HS. Never did get any benefit from that.

Funny fact, I worked with Poloncarz there.....he was in dairy.

 

[livingston]

It appears quite a few of us paid our union dues at Tops......worked there for two years during HS. Never did get any benefit from that.

Funny fact, I worked with Poloncarz there.....he was in dairy.

A few years from now someone that worked a one of these Starbucks stores will write the same thing ....No benefit

 

[Saltwater60]

It appears quite a few of us paid our union dues at Tops......worked there for two years during HS. Never did get any benefit from that.

Funny fact, I worked with Poloncarz there.....he was in dairy.

And he’s still a piece of shit.

 

[oc shooter]

Damn I must be 1 lucky guy cause most of my experience with unions is positive for 38 years I never payed for health care for me or my family I have a good pension and I will say it again the people make the union just like the people make the country on my last job at ABF we had a great shop steward who made sure the over time was shared if some senior driver got greedy he would take the over time until the senior guy saw the light if you needed a day off and there was a conflict he would do his best to work it out while there is good and bad in everything unions have done a lot of good for a lot of people if any of you are truckers thank them for air seats shocks on the steering axle and a whole host of other safety things

 

[Jmac00]

Most unions have out lived there usefulness. I have so many negative union stories its not funny anymore.

My first encounter with a union was in '74, and they (literally) put themselves out of business. The Stupid id strong in a Union

 

[Saltwater60]

Most unions have out lived there usefulness. I have so many negative union stories its not funny anymore.

My first encounter with a union was in '74, and they (literally) put themselves out of business. The Stupid id strong in a Union

I sure will agree with this for the most part and this is generally how I feel.
My current union dues are dirt cheap and I’m sure I wouldn’t have just received a $5,000-$6,000 back paycheck without them though. I don’t cause trouble or get in trouble so I do t need them often. My health insurance is very cheap and good for today’s standards.