World's first NON-semiautomatic AR15/10 platform firearm

[pshift]

Fox Unit X1

World's first non-semiautomatic AR15/10 firearm - If you live in a city or state with semi-automatic weapon restrictions, Fox Unit's FU-X1 is the key to complying with your local laws.

www.foxunit.net

They claim legality in all 50 states since it's not a semi-automatic (hah).

NY requires fixed mag and other 'nerfing' if using detachable mags. Should someone tell them?

It's an interesting piece, none the less.

 

[dsdmmat]

Not the worlds first or even all that innovative. The Brits have one with a lever in the lower receiver which cannot be overridden like this “new variant” and they have had it for almost a decade. Video: LR223 is New British Almost-Semi-Automatic AR15 - AllOutdoor.com

 

[togmaster]

Same as a tier one bolt catch.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

uh yeah... when my butt on the line..I want to do all the work........no thanks

 

[Gonzobird]

Same as a tier one bolt catch.

Yes exactly this and the state police said a tier one was a no go.

 

[Saltwater60]

Fox Unit X1

World's first non-semiautomatic AR15/10 firearm - If you live in a city or state with semi-automatic weapon restrictions, Fox Unit's FU-X1 is the key to complying with your local laws.

www.foxunit.net

They claim legality in all 50 states since it's not a semi-automatic (hah).

NY requires fixed mag and other 'nerfing' if using detachable mags. Should someone tell them?

It's an interesting piece, none the less.

If it’s not semi Auto you can have all the features you want minus over 10 rounds. Review the safe act it says only semi autos can be AW’s. Here’s the picture from the safe act web site. The interactive tool asks you if it’s semi auto right off the bat.

 

[FP1201]

Yes exactly this and the state police said a tier one was a no go.

I do not recall seeing or hearing of Tier One or any ruling from the NYSP: can you link or point to where one might find this?

 

[spat]

I've seen plenty of bolt action uppers, this is hardly the first non-semiautomatic.

I'd probably prefer a side charging upper and a blocked gas port, but that's not exactly a major breakthrough either.

 

[libertysnake]

I do not recall seeing or hearing of Tier One or any ruling from the NYSP: can you link or point to where one might find this?

I'm very interested as well.

 

[FP1201]

I'm very interested as well.

I did find a three page thread from April of 2018 covering the tier 1 however it should be noted that the NYSP cannot and will not give opinions or rulings, they will however consult with some of their forensic guys for testing and from the (on again/off again) Gun Enforcement Unit asking for professional consideration, but ultimately in a Case, the DA has to decide if they have a case against the suspect and the Judge will have to decide if the evidence is substantiated and accurate....this is about the time a plea bargain is introduced.

 

[FP1201]

The concept of hitting a Bolt release to chamber a fresh round is sound so long as it cannot be overridden..
Think of this: when using a semi-auto Shotgun to shoot Trap it cycles the same except there was only one round loaded. (fire, eject, lock back, drop in another round, release the Bolt)
Oh, and the Dark stain from Long Island can FOAD.

 

[Acer-m14]

when your trying to cross the street and a Govt official say take my hand i will help you .. its a trap ..

unsafe act says one thing .. NYSP say another .. then NYSP arrests you anyways ..

 

[Saltwater60]

I did find a three page thread from April of 2018 covering the tier 1 however it should be noted that the NYSP cannot and will not give opinions or rulings, they will however consult with some of their forensic guys for testing and from the (on again/off again) Gun Enforcement Unit asking for professional consideration, but ultimately in a Case, the DA has to decide if they have a case against the suspect and the Judge will have to decide if the evidence is substantiated and accurate....this is about the time a plea bargain is introduced.

As it should be. The police don’t make laws or interpret grey areas.

 

[Saltwater60]

The concept of hitting a Bolt release to chamber a fresh round is sound so long as it cannot be overridden..
Think of this: when using a semi-auto Shotgun to shoot Trap it cycles the same except there was only one round loaded. (fire, eject, lock back, drop in another round, release the Bolt)
Oh, and the Dark stain from Long Island can FOAD.

Only problem is anything can be defeated with enough effort. I have people that can make me a seat for a full auto if I asked, but he would say no and I wouldn’t do it. I don’t want that and he doesn’t want to break the law. Just like that’s the reason I have two fixed mag AR’s because I decided to follow the law.

 

[GTN]

There was also a pump AR

 

[FP1201]

Only problem is anything can be defeated with enough effort. I have people that can make me a seat for a full auto if I asked, but he would say no and I wouldn’t do it. I don’t want that and he doesn’t want to break the law. Just like that’s the reason I have two fixed mag AR’s because I decided to follow the law.

I too can do all sorts of things that are illegal, unethical, and immoral but choose not to.....that falls under "Free Will" and "Social restraint" (man is only good in fear of social reprisal) The whole thing is turning to such a farcical shit-show that eventually Congress will have to revamp Firearms Laws in their entirety, which given History, would not bode well for the 2nd or the Citizenry.

 

[mchasal]

I do not recall seeing or hearing of Tier One or any ruling from the NYSP: can you link or point to where one might find this?

This is the thread I've pointed people to as this has come up a few times in various places: CA/NY New Option to AWB/Safe Act It wanders a bit in the middle but gets back on topic.
The basic concerns are whether or not it actually avoids the NYS definition of semi-auto and whether holding the button down makes it behave in the normal fashion.

 

[Saltwater60]

I too can do all sorts of things that are illegal, unethical, and immoral but choose not to.....that falls under "Free Will" and "Social restraint" (man is only good in fear of social reprisal) The whole thing is turning to such a farcical shit-show that eventually Congress will have to revamp Firearms Laws in their entirety, which given History, would not bode well for the 2nd or the Citizenry.

Agreed it’s a mess.