Semi auto rifle license law passed and headed to governor

[Phazer]

No because possession is not illegal. Permit only required for purchase or transfer.

It states "to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle." Same language as with pistols. Handing a semiautomatic rifle to someone without a permit would be an illegal transfer. There are no exemptions for pistol training and pistol rentals are illegal in NY.

 

[dwa12479]

So I wonder what is the process going to be to obtain one of these magical permission slips? Just a pure curiosity, no intention of actually going through it.

 

[Vinson57]

I don't get the take possession part? The guns I already own, I already have taken procession so I take this as they are grandfathered?

 

[northny]

This is somewhat patterned after Massachusetts law. To possess purchase or own a high capacity rifle you need a class A LTC ( license to carry). Min 21 years old. $100 per five years. I don’t think courts will over rule this.

Then the attorney general of MA said there are no MA compliant assault weapons, and although dealers could no longer sell them, she would not prosecute owners “ at that time). Courts upheld this until SCOTUS declined to hear case (Think if NY said no such thing as Safe act compliant AR you are all felons in waiting). However no dealer or individual has been charged with violating the AG’s decree as most believe it would give them standing to challenge the decree as not law. A few dealers and most people I knew while living in MA until last year ignored AG.

 

[SonOfSun]

Well that gives me some time.

I picked up 2 10/22s a year ago so i can take my kids out shooting when they are old enough. I always figured they would try to go after semis, just a matter of time and I wanted to have them before they were banned. Sadly, it looks like I was right. I have also planned ahead with other proper calibers.

 

[SonOfSun]

I don't get the take possession part? The guns I already own, I already have taken procession so I take this as they are grandfathered?

Basically yes.

 

[Phazer]

So I wonder what is the process going to be to obtain one of these magical permission slips? Just a pure curiosity, no intention of actually going through it.

According to the legislation, that simply adds "semiautomatic rifle" to the pistol licensing statute, the process will be the same as obtaining a pistol permit.

 

[FP1201]

Relates to the purchase or taking possession of a semiautomatic rifle; requires a license to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle; establishes the crimes of criminal purchase of a semiautomatic rifle and criminal sale of a semiautomatic rifle; requires recertification of licenses to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle every five years.



so....... even those 21+ will now need a license to own semi auto rifles and to recertify them every 5 years (just like pistol license)

Looks like you'll have to have a Handgun Licenses to buy or take possession of any semi-automatic Rifle, that you'll have to jump through the same hoops to obtain said Licenses as you would a Pistol....I tried to read through and understand it; it would seem that if you already have a semi-auto Rifle that you're sill good to go, but if you want another one after the 19th (presuming passage into Law) that you'll have to apply for a Pistol Permit and have it amended to reflect said Rifle (which doesn't make a lot of sense if you've already got one)
The new Law will cause a lot of people that weren't necessarily interested in getting a Handgun Licenses to do so if they want another SA Rifle or want to dispose of one to someone outside their immediate Family.

 

[libertysnake]

I think I've reached the limit of what I'm willing to tolerate with this state.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Legislation refers to purchasing or taking possession of.

If you already possess such a firearm, you don't appear to have to do anything.

Exactly my plan REGARDLESS.

 

[thegatman]

I think if you go to shoot the semi auto you can be arrested if it's not permitted. I think that includes 10/22's

 

[Mosinitis]

I remember some idiots here expecting Sullivan law to be struck down by SCOTUS after appointment of Justice Gorsuch. FUCKING TOLD YOU SO. ....... and told you I will be here reminding you I told you so.

On a positive side one can still get a drivers license in another state.

 

[Dr. Evil]

On a positive side one can still get a drivers license in another state.

Exactly. I'm in no rush to buy anything at insane prices just because the window of freedom is closing and since I will be in a free state in the near future. I can almost taste it. This shit hole state and those that like the political climate here can have it. Fuck 'em.

 

[Phazer]

Can't wait to see how the various counties handle this mandate.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Can't wait to see how the various counties handle this mandate.

I can.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Can't wait to see how the various counties handle this mandate.

2 outcomes and they aren't mutually exclusive...

1. Taxes will go up to pay for additional county clerk's salary's and benefits to handle increasing workload
2. Wait times for pistol license will take longer now that there will be significant rifle applications flooding the system and I'm sure all of them will have to go through the same background checks, finger printing, detective interviews, criminal history checks, character references, judge approval etc


So to recap, expect crappy service that costs more and makes life more difficult. The peoples Republic has spoken

 

[Phazer]

So, how is this not an complete infringement of the 2nd amendment?

New York now wants to have law-abiding citizens to go through a year of licensing to obtain a long gun that is not concealable.

New York has long insisted that their licensing scheme was "reasonable" because they were vetting people to obtain easily-concealable pistols. Given crime statistics for rifles and the fact that they cannot be readily concealed, how is this legal?

 

[Dr. Evil]

So, how is this not an complete infringement of the 2nd amendment?

New York now wants to have law-abiding citizens to go through a year of licensing to obtain a long gun that is not concealable.

New York has long insisted that their licensing scheme was "reasonable" because they were vetting people to obtain easily-concealable pistols. Given crime statistics for rifles and the fact that they cannot be readily concealed, how is this legal?

Since when does NY concern itself with what's legal? It's the mafia approach.

 

[Darth]

You guys know that "gun friendly" ranges will go above and beyond with this too.

"Must present permit to enter! NO EXCEPTIONS!"

 

[Edwardteach72]

Impossible... A member here that can't seem to make a post without calling other members derogatory names. Said that there would be no UNSAFE Act 2.0 - LOL

Awe did you get butt hurt as well..

Funny most of the bills 1) don't change anything of 2) won't hold up in court

But all you are so cucked to the state

 

[John Stark]

I remember when NY took away everyone's life time lollipop permit with regards to handguns and pushed through the 5 year recert and background check to keep and have a concealed carry license. I suggested that handgun permit holders refuse, and got pilloried for it.

There are millions of concealed carry holders in this state, making enforcement actions a bloody nightmare, and yet NYers went right along with the 5 year permit and recert. Slurp! More please!

Well well well, here we are a few years later and its open, flagrant tyranny with regards to weapons that might actually be useful to stave it off.

They grab more than they actually have the power to enforce because NYers simply let them grab more with barely a whimper.

Meanwhile, 25 other states are basically full-on Constitutional Carry, and many other states that are not still have pretty good gun laws even if they require a permit to conceal carry. I estimate that several other states will go full Constitutional carry in the next 5 years, bringing the total at least to 30 if not 35.

Gun rights are expanding every where but in a few states, and that trend will continue.

Its a hill to die. Except for a few states like NY.

Why the sour grapes fellas? What is happening in this shithole is nothing more than the predictable rotten fruit of multiple decades of tyranny and wickedness.

A bill like this is nothing but a precursor to an outright ban on semi-autos, and yet most NYers will squak about it for a few minutes and submit to the humiliation of getting a permission slip to exercise their... privilege. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

If it stinks, its because we refuse to flush the toilet when the retards in Albany and NY City tell us to hold our noses... or else.

 

[Bigfoot]

Awe did you get butt hurt as well..

Funny most of the bills 1) don't change anything of 2) won't hold up in court

But all you are so cucked to the state

I wasn't referring to you.

You were not even on my radar... LOL

I was thinking of someone else.

 

[That_FNG]

According to the legislation, that simply adds "semiautomatic rifle" to the pistol licensing statute, the process will be the same as obtaining a pistol permit.

The infringements will be the same

 

[Edwardteach72]

I wasn't referring to you.

You were not even on my radar... LOL

I was thinking of someone else.

Well now I'm sad, I thought I made an impact, are my bans for not

 

[Bigfoot]

Well now I'm sad, I thought I made an impact, are my bans for not

LOL I agree with "most" of your posts.

 

[Phazer]

You guys know that "gun friendly" ranges will go above and beyond with this too.

"Must present permit to enter! NO EXCEPTIONS!"

But..."It's not a possession permit. It is a purchase permit." According to the bill's sponsor.

If you're in possession of a rifle when you get to the range, you are supposed to be "fine" and within the law.

 

[Arnie-Man]

I remember a Law like this in Commiefornia that was struck down by the supreme court and is now heading for a full panel review not sure if it has gone through the full panel review.

 

[Bigfoot]

"They" surely have the next gun people control bills already prepared for when the next mass murder happens. Of course, you all know that by now.

 

[Phazer]

The infringements will be the same

Absolutely!

 

[Bigfoot]

It's very telling that the Democrats do not even want to hear about, much less entertain
any other ideas, that will help protect the school kids.

For them, it's about their gun people control agenda.
They don't give a fuck about the kids. If they did they would be open to any legit ideas
that could make a difference right now.

They dance in the blood of the dead kids.
They are vile broken people. I will never voluntarily disarm myself.
I do not trust the leftists. They hate people like myself.
I am their enemy, And they are mine.