It's now a states issue, which it should have been all along. The federal govt. oversteps legal boundaries far too often. Despite me being pro-choice, I agree with the ruling overall in legal concept. I'd push for my state to be pro-choice, but not for it to be a national right.
Supposedly the Supreme Court will over turn roe v wade
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Bigfoot
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It's been a good couple of days, it's a nice change of pace.
Saltwater60
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And I got banned from twotter for saying we should bring back tarring and feathering terrible politicians, of course it was sarcasm/joke. Man I was hoping to troll some liberals. Damn it.
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Saltwater60
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Your state is pro-choice, too pro-choice and it violated roe V wade anyway. We allow abortions unrestricted up until the day of birth for the mothers health. Well health is an extremely broad term and there is no longer the word abortion in the penal code so even if they did deem it was an illegal abortion nothing could be done anyway expect removal of the DRs license or a civil suit.
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Everyone is packing the court now. The SCOTUS has become too political.
Roe v wade was 7:2 for abortion. Now 50 years later it's 6:3 against. Bruen was also 6:3.
There is precedent for overturning scotus rulings but rarely as monumental as this. We're never more than a few justices away from risk to Heller, for example.
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And just like that, everyone forgot yesterday’s 2A win.
In a way that's good.
Modean
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Whatever you may think of Donald Trump, we would not have got these rulings had he not won in 2016.
I believe in illegal abortions as much as I believe in "illegal guns". Which is to say, not at all.
Just told my wife to be careful when she goes out today.
My 1st account with my real name got banned for that exact same phrase.
Actually, Mitch McConnell. Another R president would have appointed a similar slate of justices. Neither would have been able to without Mitch.
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My birthday was Tuesday. It's a little late but I'll take these two gifts.
Happy happy birthday sir!
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Thanks!
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Deplorable Me
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Between yesterday and today a double middle finger to the progressive liberal wanna be overlords. The silent majority is hopefully waking up.
I've said from jump when he put his hat in the running that he was gonna be DeBlasio 2.0
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How soon until they start advertising destination vacations for those seeking an abortion in NY? You know, kill your baby, see the Statue of Liberty and take in all the city has to offer...
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The only real legal question is "when does a new person begin".
That needs a clear and unambiguous definition.
After that, no abortion specific laws are required. Normal laws against murder and exceptions for medical situations, etc are sufficient.
One minute there is just a woman, the next there are the equivalent of a pair of conjoined twins.
Same exact thing.
I don't think birth is the appropriate place to draw that line. I also don't think conception is appropriate. Most states draw the line at some milestone around 15 weeks, which is probably close to right IMHO.
You just need to be careful about the milestone you pick.
Viability outside the womb is popular, but it is subject to moving as medical technology progresses. In a couple decades that may be conception.
I think the definition of the beginning of life and the definition of the end of it should be mirror images. Probably related to brain activity.
Life begins at conception period. That is when it starts, stopping it ends a life!
spat
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I seriously doubt Mitt Romney would have appointed anyone decent. Probably not McCain either.
RINOs gonna RINO.
Many Republicans would have chosen less controversial appointments because they have no stomach for the conflict. That is Trump's greatest strength, he is not afraid to piss off the beltway elites.
Most of the Republicans in congress are more concerned with what the beltway insiders will say to them at dinner parties than they are about representing their constituents.
pjzwtl
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Most of the others would have “played it safe” with their SCOTUS picks. Of this I have no doubt.
spat
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That would imply that some old dude in a vegetative state is alive until his last cell dies.
We could keep him in that state essentially forever with modern technology.
That also implies that if you cloned some guy and killed the original it wouldn't be murder. That's a hell of a loophole LOL, and also probably within modern technological limits.
spat
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This is the appropriate discussion to have around abortion though. "Rights" and all the BS around that is just a smoke screen for the real issue.
The biggest take away from Roe v. Wade being overturned is the return of States rights. I am all for protecting unborn lives but this is what resonates with me more.