This has been my question for awhile. Though, the willingness of NY attorney generals to attempt to project their authority outside their jurisdiction probably is a large deterrent as no small business wants to spend time and money fending off legal nuisance suits from an adversary whose only budget constraint is, well… nothing.
I don't understand how it would be possible to file even a nuisance suit against a company that has broken no law in their state. The court in which it was filed would have no choice but to throw it out. Can the Texas AG prosecute MDs providing abortions in NYS? Or if such an MD visited Texas for a medical convention, or any other reason, could he be arrested?
What appears to me to make these cases different are the regulations applicable to firearms shipments, but not to ammo. What are the legal grounds for these suits, if you know--violating ATF regs, or what?
I assure you I DO. But I still want to know why the others, the ones collaborating with the gun-haters of NYS, don't.
Can you provide ONE example of an out-of-state ammo seller sued by NYS?When you own your own business, get back to me. It can cost a business thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer to defend themselves over bs litigation. You are only thinking of yourselves when you buy ammo. As long as you are getting it, screw the businesses that may get sued, right? Then you "boycott" them because of stupid liberal NY laws?
That court would have to sit in the home-state of the shipper. How could that court claim jurisdiction over a "crime" that occurred in another state? That's why I asked if there might be some federal legislation that superseded state laws.
Tell THAT to the gutless anti-gun collaborators who voluntarily submit to NYS restrictions!
UPS doesn't restrict destruction to gun-parts--they're an "equal-opportunity" destroyer of any parcel entrusted to their "care."
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That's one (rather brazen) manufacturer who went out of his way to draw attention to his products of questionable legality. What is your evidence that EVERY kind of gun part will henceforth be rejected by UPS? God knows I'm no defender of UPS, which I HATE for many reasons! Right now I'm in a dispute with an ebay merchant who refuses to ship to my PO box, because the SOB will only ship UPS.BREAKING: UPS Cuts Off Gun Parts Retailers for Selling 'Ghost Guns,' Threatens to Seize and Destroy In-Transit Packages - The Truth About Guns
◀Previous Post Next Post▶ By Lee Williams United Parcel Service is terminating the accounts of gun dealers across the country. Any packages currently in the UPS system may be “seized and destroyed.” In a letter sent to one Florida gun dealer, Ghost Firearms, UPS said they were terminating...
You're right, but if you're looking for scarce, collectable, items, you can't just "buy them somewhere else." New stuff, other than ammo, I have no interest in.
NYS has regulations against having these shipped to NYS. Just like you could sue another resident of another state for negligence even if they didn’t break a law in their state. Same applies. I wish you were right but you’re not.
He has an account with UPS, gets a discount and they likely come to his place of business to pick up the packages. You can’t really blame him. I wouldn’t pay more and lose time to sell you something some one else will buy. Workers are in short supply these days.
They have ruled it takes place in NUS because they can tax you like you’re buying in NYS. I’d say that ship has sailed.
Then he shouldn't be peddling his product on ebay, because the vast majority of ebay merchants DO without argument ship USPS. Many private housing developments are not served by USPS, so residents have no choice but to use a PO box. If ever there was a dead duck in this country, it's "the customer is always right" principle.
This. Why does OP feel so entitled to compel out-of-state businesses to deal with New York bullshit? They can just as easily ask why we choose to live in a state that enacts the kinds of laws we do and then turn around and ask out-of-state businesses to deal with us.When you own your own business, get back to me. It can cost a business thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer to defend themselves over bs litigation. You are only thinking of yourselves when you buy ammo. As long as you are getting it, screw the businesses that may get sued, right? Then you "boycott" them because of stupid liberal NY laws?
It’s hard to shop at the ones that won’t ship.
Does the 1959 date on my NRA Junior patch suggest a new gun owner? What were you doing in 1959? My State Senator is Dan Stec, probably the most pro-gun member in the state legislature, & I'm on his mailing list.
The customer is always right is bill shit and that’s coming from a guy that’s very customer service focused.
