5.7 really making a comeback??

[Edwardteach72]

FN is dropping a 3rd Gen of their FiveSeveN, mix in Ruger and Palmetto State making their own 5.7 pistols. Nato even adopted the round just a year or two ago? Took them long enough lol but hey here we are.


So let's have some fun with the old bougie round

 

[Saltwater60]

I know little to nothing of this round because I never investigated it one bit. I’m sure there are plenty of benefits and some drawbacks. I remember the FN 5.7 being very large so I largely ignored it.

 

[Depick]

I LOVE my five seven! So much fun to shoot but definitely a little pricey nowadays.

 

[northny]

Damn. I thought GM was bringing back the 350 small block.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I was going to go the 5.7 route but heard reloading them was a pain due to the tolerances the guns have for factory ammo. 9mm/40/45acp may not be as high velocity, but I can load up any number of different concoctions and the guns don't seem to have a problem with it. If I can't reload it, or save money reloading it, I don't want it (22lr being exception!).

 

[Saltwater60]

I was going to go the 5.7 route but heard reloading them was a pain due to the tolerances the guns have for factory ammo. 9mm/40/45acp may not be as high velocity, but I can load up any number of different concoctions and the guns don't seem to have a problem with it. If I can't reload it, or save money reloading it, I don't want it (22lr being exception!).

You can reload .22lr but not sure it’s worth the time.

 

[spat]

I know little to nothing of this round because I never investigated it one bit. I’m sure there are plenty of benefits and some drawbacks. I remember the FN 5.7 being very large so I largely ignored it.

That would be by biggest complaint using it for a pistol round.

Huge grips.

Love it in the PS90 though. Hopefully wider adoption brings down the ammo cost.

 

[Saltwater60]

That would be by biggest complaint using it for a pistol round.

Huge grips.

Love it in the PS90 though. Hopefully wider adoption brings down the ammo cost.

Yes I have smaller hands so I would have trouble gripping it. However I love my double stacked 1911 and shoot it fantastically.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Back in the early 2000s I had a chance to buy a 5.7 and PS90 together from a gun shop for $1200. I should have done it. The ammo is so expensive though which is off putting. As far as reloading the issue isn't tolerances but a special coating that's put onto the brass. So wet tumbling is out and you are left with dry tumbling or ultrasonic which are both inferior to wet and will eventually ware the coating anyway. If the NFA stamp goes away I would still consider getting a P90. For obvious reasons.

 

[Vapor]

Do you guys have small hands or something? Lol I honestly shoot a five seven better than a glock 19, but I wear large size gloves.


I like it in concept, especially in a sub gun/pistol combo. Something that can really reach out to 200 meters, like a mini 5.56.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Do you guys have small hands or something? Lol I honestly shoot a five seven better than a glock 19, but I wear large size gloves.


I like it in concept, especially in a sub gun/pistol combo. Something that can really reach out to 200 meters, like a mini 5.56.

I have no problem gripping a DE. I actually like the feel of it. I'd imagine a 5.7 pistol is like gripping a tokarev pistol. But I suppose I'm just used to having to handle a large object on a daily basis.

 

[dsdmmat]

https://palmettostatearmory.com/panzer-ar57-ult-upper-assembly-5-7x28mm-16-ult-0116.html

Picked up one of these the other day. My daughter took the first one 7 years ago. So I finally got a replacement. Plus enough 50 round mags to have fun with.

 

[Podmonkey]

There needs to be a few more carbines chambered in 5.7. Ruger should do a PC Carbine in 5.7. I'd wager that this cartridge would explode in popularity in the absence of the NFA.

 

[dsdmmat]

There needs to be a few more carbines chambered in 5.7. Ruger should do a PC Carbine in 5.7. I'd wager that this cartridge would explode in popularity in the absence of the NFA.

I shall be putting a binary trigger in my AR57 build. Should amount to lots of costly fun.

 

[Depick]

There needs to be a few more carbines chambered in 5.7. Ruger should do a PC Carbine in 5.7. I'd wager that this cartridge would explode in popularity in the absence of the NFA.

I would be the first in line for one!!

 

[Podmonkey]

I would be the first in line for one!!

Magazines would be a problem. 5.7 pistol I like the most is the new PSA Rock which I doubt Ruger would offer any mag well adaptor for.

 

[spat]

There needs to be a few more carbines chambered in 5.7. Ruger should do a PC Carbine in 5.7. I'd wager that this cartridge would explode in popularity in the absence of the NFA.

What more do you want than a PS90

 

[dsdmmat]

Magazines would be a problem. 5.7 pistol I like the most is the new PSA Rock which I doubt Ruger would offer any mag well adaptor for.

They would use their own Ruger 57 pistol magazines.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

The PSA Rock looks best IMO. And striker fired is better than hammer fired. IMO.

 

[Xae289]

I'd love one, but I'd only get one if I wasn't subject to a magazine limit. Having one in the pipe and 10 on deck defeats one of what I see as its two major advantages. The first being barrier and armor penetration, and the second being amazing capacity.

 

[Podmonkey]

They would use their own Ruger 57 pistol magazines.

Right, and I don’t want a Ruger 57

 

[Podmonkey]

I'd love one, but I'd only get one if I wasn't subject to a magazine limit. Having one in the pipe and 10 on deck defeats one of what I see as its two major advantages. The first being barrier and armor penetration, and the second being amazing capacity.

That's tge real problem with the 5.7x28 and it's red headed German cousin the 4 6x30, both specialized cartridges meant to leverage features denied to private citizens.

However it seems like with proper projectIles the 5.7 might neatly fill a niche in small game hunting. Could function like a .22 Hornet in a smaller, lighter package. Imagine a survival style combination gun with a 5.7 barrel over a 410 bore

 

[Xae289]

That's tge real problem with the 5.7x28 and it's red headed German cousin the 4 6x30, both specialized cartridges meant to leverage features denied to private citizens.

However it seems like with proper projectIles the 5.7 might neatly fill a niche in small game hunting. Could function like a .22 Hornet in a smaller, lighter package. Imagine a survival style combination gun with a 5.7 barrel over a 410 bore

Maybe. I've only ever taken squirrels with .22LR, so I have no reference as to what the meat damage on a squirrel or rabbit would be with something like the 5.7. It would probably be much easier to have super-tight accuracy though, so I guess meat damage isn't as much an issue if you can hit a headshot every time.

 

[Podmonkey]

Maybe. I've only ever taken squirrels with .22LR, so I have no reference as to what the meat damage on a squirrel or rabbit would be with something like the 5.7. It would probably be much easier to have super-tight accuracy though, so I guess meat damage isn't as much an issue if you can hit a headshot every time.

I'd bet 5.7 FMJ would do a bang up job on rabbit, maybe even squirrel since it'd likely just zip straight through. We're I think a major improvement would be had over .22 rimfires on larger varmints like woodchucks and such.
Basically I see the 5.7x28nas a modern .22 Hornet replacement, excepting thar the 5.7 wouldn't likely be able to reach up as high as tge Hornet with handloads.

 

[FrankenCub]

The PSA Rock looks best IMO. And striker fired is better than hammer fired. IMO.

Ohhhh.. I like that, didn't know they were a thing till this comment.
If it weren't for mag restrictions I'd get one.

 

[FRANKIE]

Poor 5.7 never had a parent. (Cases)

Although I would suspect the .556? Lol

 

[Podmonkey]

PSA should make a 5.7 PCC using their Rock mags now that I think about it. Not AR based either.

 

[Podmonkey]

We were just talking about this!