Hochul Signs Gun Safety Legislation Strengthening Bans on Realistic-looking Imitation Weapons
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99cummins
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The gov can’t stop the criminals from getting real guns yet are going after fake guns. Make them brightly colored…because spray paint doesn’t exist.
fnfalguy
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That worked out well for Alex Baldwins director.
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gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
In theory, you could join a 2A group, but none seem very interested in such things.
4WHLDRFTN
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4WHLDRFTN
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Deplorable Me
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It's like someone appointed an ex-mother-in-law governor.
ManualF150
.308 Win
So what does this do to the airgun market???
I’m a huge airgunner too.
I’m a huge airgunner too.
Justincase
.308 Win
Unless it’s clear or pink you ain’t getting them anymore
ManualF150
.308 Win
Would be helpful if I read it... still doesn’t impact bb or pellet guns...
2. "Imitation weapon" means any device or object made of plastic, wood, metal or any other material which substantially duplicates or can reasonably be perceived to be an actual firearm, air rifle, pellet gun, or "B-B" gun; unless such imitation weapon
2. "Imitation weapon" means any device or object made of plastic, wood, metal or any other material which substantially duplicates or can reasonably be perceived to be an actual firearm, air rifle, pellet gun, or "B-B" gun; unless such imitation weapon
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
This basically invalidates the whole thing.
Every airsoft gun I own has some sort of serial or stamp on it of some sort. Either a full model number anyone can google, or a trademark and a generic issue number. I'd be surprised if all of them don't have at least something, making 99% of them under that category.
Furthermore this is only a civil penalty, if anything, if you look at the enforcement section for "imitation weapons" and applies to people engaged in the trade of these items, clearly, from the description of "import (implies selling)" and "distributing" and "selling" as the wording being used.
Every airsoft gun I own has some sort of serial or stamp on it of some sort. Either a full model number anyone can google, or a trademark and a generic issue number. I'd be surprised if all of them don't have at least something, making 99% of them under that category.
Furthermore this is only a civil penalty, if anything, if you look at the enforcement section for "imitation weapons" and applies to people engaged in the trade of these items, clearly, from the description of "import (implies selling)" and "distributing" and "selling" as the wording being used.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
there goes all of the Trees ... cut them down .. no more 02 .
they all look guns to me . .
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Is there a provision allowing local governments to make their own laws? If not, they might have just inadvertently struck down a lot of local laws-lol
And the moron doesn’t realize that criminals spray paint their toy guns black to look real and, on occasion, their real guns to look like toys.
And the moron doesn’t realize that criminals spray paint their toy guns black to look real and, on occasion, their real guns to look like toys.
There is nothing "reasonable" about it.
They'll squint, tilt their head, wear dark sunglasses, or whatever else they need to do to try to convince the judge that they "perceived it as" a real gun.
Just like confiscating cardboard cutouts.
Deplorable Me
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Ghost guns of the past.
Deplorable Me
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With 3D printing technology, ghost toy guns are a reality and pain in her ass.
Do they even know all the flurry of nonsense?
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Only the ones that follow me do.
Following....
Paperpunch
.40 S&W
People get shot with their cellphone or wallet in their hand. Some people get shot with nothing in their hands.
Phazer
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Hi, Truman!
Phazer
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I'd really love to see someone, who has a valid NY pistol permit, arrested for training with their airsoft "imitation" pistol. That would be a great case to present to a jury:
NYS Prosecutor: Members of the jury....Mr. Smith has an imitation pistol that could be mistaken for a real pistol. In this case, a Glock 17. Such an imitation pistol could be used to commit a crime since it could easily be mistaken for a real Glock 17.
Mr. Smith's Defense Attorney: Mr. Prosecutor, are you aware that Mr. Smith has a valid New York State pistol permit and that he already has a legally registered real Glock 17 9mm pistol? Since Mr. Smith has legal access to a real Glock 17, why does it matter if he has an imitation Glock 17?
NYS Prosecutor: Ummm....Ummm....Ummm.....
NYS Prosecutor: Members of the jury....Mr. Smith has an imitation pistol that could be mistaken for a real pistol. In this case, a Glock 17. Such an imitation pistol could be used to commit a crime since it could easily be mistaken for a real Glock 17.
Mr. Smith's Defense Attorney: Mr. Prosecutor, are you aware that Mr. Smith has a valid New York State pistol permit and that he already has a legally registered real Glock 17 9mm pistol? Since Mr. Smith has legal access to a real Glock 17, why does it matter if he has an imitation Glock 17?
NYS Prosecutor: Ummm....Ummm....Ummm.....
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Phazer
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BINGO!
"Imitation weapon" means any device or object made of plastic,
5 wood, metal or any other material which substantially duplicates or can
6 reasonably be perceived to be an actual firearm, air rifle, pellet gun,
7 or "B-B" gun
So...if the item IS INDEED "an actual firearm, air rifle, pellet gun, or B-B gun," it can be any color, including black.
Good to know that airsoft is saved in New York state since airsoft guns are pellet guns that fire very light BBs.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
Maybe if we do background checks on kids with toy guns we can save lives.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Speaking of airsoft... surprised about paintball. But I guess that falls in line with those Orbeez...
On another note... when I was younger we used to freeze some of our paintballs... yeah buddy.......!
On another note... when I was younger we used to freeze some of our paintballs... yeah buddy.......!
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
makes me remember of long ago they tried to curb this with Orange tips on fake guns...what that failed?! when does a law fail.....a Law if rule of the land...how can a law fail....
but anyways no toy guns without orange tips..that was cuomos dad that did that one as I was just a kid.....you know.....when the dinasours roamed around....we had a pet tricaratops........named SPIKE.
but anyways no toy guns without orange tips..that was cuomos dad that did that one as I was just a kid.....you know.....when the dinasours roamed around....we had a pet tricaratops........named SPIKE.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
watch it @MilesTeg , with that many kids in your house you'll be red flagged for them playing cops and robbers.