How do I get my shotgun back?

[Laru845]

Yes, the ATF stops the process after 3 days. If you don't get a proceed in 3 days you never will.

The ATF will also not allow you to start a second attempt in less than 30 days (as far as they are concerned, if they don't give a deny in 3 days then it's a proceed, but that's not good enough for NYS).

so, NY makes you have a proceed, and if don't get one in 3 days you never will. But the ATF won't allow you to restart the check for 30 days.

So what I’m understanding is that after the 30 days I have to wait 30 more days to start that possible 30 day process again?

I thought it was 30 days and if you do not get a proceed in those 30 days. You could start it right away.

I know NY is the only state that does this, do you think I could order a gun from guns.com, send it to a gun store in NJ and pick it up with no problems while living n NY?

 

[Laru845]

So what I’m understanding is that after the 30 days I have to wait 30 more days to start that possible 30 day process again?

I thought it was 30 days and if you do not get a proceed in those 30 days. You could start it right away.

I know NY is the only state that does this, do you think I could order a gun from guns.com, send it to a gun store in NJ and pick it up with no problems while living n NY?

Just got this email from my lawyer. Do y’all think the police department might still refuse?

 

[SonOfSun]

You are 20 years too late. Liberals hold super majority in house, senate, plus executive and courts. How do you plan to fight? They cheat every election. This state is basically a communist strong hold at this point.

I get your feelings but at least he's trying, what have you done about it? I have a general rule; if someone else is trying and I'm not then I have no room to criticize them.

 

[Saltwater60]

So what I’m understanding is that after the 30 days I have to wait 30 more days to start that possible 30 day process again?

I thought it was 30 days and if you do not get a proceed in those 30 days. You could start it right away.

I know NY is the only state that does this, do you think I could order a gun from guns.com, send it to a gun store in NJ and pick it up with no problems while living n NY?

As far as I know you can start it immediately after the 30 days from the first check. I also understand it the same as spat. They investigate for 3 days and after that it’s a proceed in all states but NYS(I think). However they must do something after the three days because if they discover you’re a prohibited person they send the ATF to collect the gun and you.
If you are not a prohibited person there are some things that can be done to make your check go better and you can get the UPIN number. I’m not sure what your name is but in your case it’s likely your criminal past. I would do the UPIN number and investigate to make sure the proper disposition of your criminal record is recorded with the FBI. NYS may have forgotten to update them since they don’t want gun owners in this state.

 

[Saltwater60]

Good.

Just got this email from my lawyer. Do y’all think the police department might still refuse?

Take it over and see what happens. This can only help, will it solve the problem, likely no but it’s your next step.

 

[Laru845]

I get your feelings but at least he's trying, what have you done about it? I have a general rule; if someone else is trying and I'm not then I have no room to criticize them.

That’s what I’m saying I have to at least try, we all got our own unique stories.

 

[Jmac00]

Just got this email from my lawyer. Do y’all think the police department might still refuse?

it sure will be interesting if they refuse,

actually, if they do refuse, I'd call the DA right there at the counter, and demand that the PD talk directly to the DA. THAT should be an interesting conversation

 

[Laru845]

As far as I know you can start it immediately after the 30 days from the first check. I also understand it the same as spat. They investigate for 3 days and after that it’s a proceed in all states but NYS(I think). However they must do something after the three days because if they discover you’re a prohibited person they send the ATF to collect the gun and you.
If you are not a prohibited person there are some things that can be done to make your check go better and you can get the UPIN number. I’m not sure what your name is but in your case it’s likely your criminal past. I would do the UPIN number and investigate to make sure the proper disposition of your criminal record is recorded with the FBI. NYS may have forgotten to update them since they don’t want gun owners in this state

If they make me wait 30 days then I will immediately do it again. I got no criminal record. The first time I tried to pick up my shotgun they didn’t have me in their system either. Funny enough they had my dad (we got almost the same name). All I have is 5 or 6 traffic stops.

 

[Laru845]

Good.

Take it over and see what happens. This can only help, will it solve the problem, likely no but it’s your next step.

I will try to do that today. I’m trying to finish my job as fast as possible to go as early as possible. Because they might hit me if “the person that handles that is not here today” or “the person that handles that already clocked out”. They already done that to me.

 

[Laru845]

it sure will be interesting if they refuse,

actually, if they do refuse, I'd call the DA right there at the counter, and demand that the PD talk directly to the DA. THAT should be an interesting conversation

What I was thinking of making them do, my lawyer seems positive now that they will release it tho. Before he was negative.

 

[Jmac00]

If they make me wait 30 days then I will immediately do it again. I got no criminal record. The first time I tried to pick up my shotgun they didn’t have me in their system either. Funny enough they had my dad (we got almost the same name). All I have is 5 or 6 traffic stops.

you need to go faster and take more chances, thats amature stuff right there ,

 

[Saltwater60]

I will try to do that today. I’m trying to finish my job as fast as possible to go as early as possible. Because they might hit me if “the person that handles that is not here today” or “the person that handles that already clocked out”. They already done that to me.

Off for the holidays is my guess.

 

[Laru845]

Off for the holidays is my guess.

Haha we’ll see. I’m done with work gonna go home then to the station.

 

[Laru845]

Haha we’ll see. I’m done with work gonna go home then to the station.

Well boys they told me to go back this Saturday (Christmas Eve) after 7:00AM. Because “there’s nobody there that does that at the moment”. I see where this is going.

 

[Laru845]

Well boys they told me to go back this Saturday (Christmas Eve) after 7:00AM. Because “there’s nobody there that does that at the moment”. I see where this is going.

This is what my lawyer send me btw

 

[Saltwater60]

Well boys they told me to go back this Saturday (Christmas Eve) after 7:00AM. Because “there’s nobody there that does that at the moment”. I see where this is going.

Yeah me too. They can all take ‘em away but only one asshole can give it back I see? I’m guessing he won’t be there Christmas Eve either, just a hunch. Maybe you lll get a Christmas gift early!!

 

[spat]

I get your feelings but at least he's trying, what have you done about it? I have a general rule; if someone else is trying and I'm not then I have no room to criticize them.

If there is a raging forest fire bearing down on the neighborhood, and your neighbor is going to meet it with a 5 gallon pail of water and a squirt gun while you are packing up to leave. He is doing more than you are. I also think it's quite reasonable to tell him "dude, just GTFO before you get killed".

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[Laru845]

Yeah me too. They can all take ‘em away but only one asshole can give it back I see? I’m guessing he won’t be there Christmas Eve either, just a hunch. Maybe you lll get a Christmas gift early!!I

I like your positivity man. I’m also still positive. She said go Saturday but tomorrow morning I’ll be calling. If not tomorrow sat if not sat mon and so on I don’t give a fuck!

 

[Laru845]

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No tears soldier, just screamed really loudly “fuuuuuuuuck” when I got into my car.

 

[GOYABEAN]

No tears soldier, just screamed really loudly “fuuuuuuuuck” when I got into my car.

Maybe you forgot to offer the big guy his 10% seems like that's how things work now!

 

[Rocpo]

Do yourself a favor and bring a proper case when you go to retrieve your shotgun. And I would also bring a trigger lock/other appropriate safety device.

 

[Laru845]

Do yourself a favor and bring a proper case when you go to retrieve your shotgun. And I would also bring a trigger lock/other appropriate safety device.

They also took my case

 

[Jmac00]

Well boys they told me to go back this Saturday (Christmas Eve) after 7:00AM. Because “there’s nobody there that does that at the moment”. I see where this is going.

are we taking bets that the one person that can release the item, won't be available until the first week of January, then that person will only be available on Wednesday's between 10:15am and 10:30am

 

[Laru845]

are we taking bets that the one person that can release the item, won't be available until the first week of January, then that person will only be available on Wednesday's between 10:15am and 10:30am

I say he’s taking a nice 2 month family vacation, on a serious note. How long do I have until they destroy my gun? Because it’s been over a year since I got charged and 8 months since the case was beat.

 

[Saltwater60]

I like your positivity man. I’m also still positive. She said go Saturday but tomorrow morning I’ll be calling. If not tomorrow sat if not sat mon and so on I don’t give a fuck!

Get ‘em and get your gun back!!

 

[Jmac00]

I say he’s taking a nice 2 month family vacation, on a serious note. How long do I have until they destroy my gun? Because it’s been over a year since I got charged and 8 months since the case was beat.

as long as it's been an active case, they can't destroy private property. And they obviously know the courts have released the property to you, so destroying your property at this point would put the PD in hot water

 

[Saltwater60]

I say he’s taking a nice 2 month family vacation, on a serious note. How long do I have until they destroy my gun? Because it’s been over a year since I got charged and 8 months since the case was beat.

As far as I know they only have to hold it one year. As stated if it’s an active case being held for evidence they can’t or won’t destroy it but I’m guessing it wasn’t vouchered for evidence against you?
My local police say 1 year to hold it but most times it takes around 2 years for things to settle out so they consider it destroys me after that. Is this common or is this more of a courtesy by my department? I just went through this with a friend so I know the 1 year thing to be NYS policy according to my local PD. They also said they never destroy the guns and they just sit forever in evidence. They have some guns there from 15-20 years ago.

 

[ManualF150]

I know it's just a material thing... but sometimes I like to prove a point, especially if I have the time to do it.

I've found that having patience and a good attitude goes a LONG way. Meaning that they HOPE you are dick and it gives them further reason not to give it back. If you are persistent and keep bothering them, they will eventually budge.

I'm still rooting for you! I hope you get your shotgun back.

 

[Laru845]

I know it's just a material thing... but sometimes I like to prove a point, especially if I have the time to do it.

I've found that having patience and a good attitude goes a LONG way. Meaning that they HOPE you are dick and it gives them further reason not to give it back. If you are persistent and keep bothering them, they will eventually budge.

I'm still rooting for you! I hope you get your shotgun back.

Yes I been respectful all the times I been to the police department. I was really innocent so it’s not fair getting a new hobby taken away from me. I felt in love with the shooting range and gun smoke. I called them this morning, the guy sounded really nice and told me that there will be nobody today in the evidences room. He asked me if I had a DA release letter and I said yes. He said tomorrow there will be someone in the evidence room all day. And thanks for the wishes.