spat
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Isreal should put up a response that would make Vlad Tepes's jaw drop.
It needs to be so brutal, and so over the top, that the idea of repeating the attack is unthinkable.
Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip
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It needs to be so brutal, and so over the top, that the idea of repeating the attack is unthinkable.
Phazer
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If I recall, Israeli terrorist interdiction team strategy in the 1970s and 1980s was to approach situations by considering hostages "already dead." The special forces teams were to eliminate the terrorists so that they could no longer operate and then to rescue as many hostages as possible.
I could, of course, be recalling this completely incorrectly based on bad information that I heard decades ago.
Anyone with real operative knowledge, please correct me as needed. Thanks.
Phazer
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To the Leftist progressive morons out there....WATCH THIS! Your venerated "freedom fighters" are challenging their "oppression" by slaughtering young, unarmed, non-combatant, concert attendees.
Wholesale slaughter of innocents is what Nazis did. This butchery is what present day Nazis are doing.
livingston
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Been preaching that for years my friend .
Dr. Evil
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Like I originally said... don't fuck with the Israeli's.
Dr. Evil
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G-d bless them.Leader of squad of military veterans heading to Israel blames Biden admin for failing to protect Americans
The leader of a private squad of US military veterans heading to Israel to rescue trapped Americans angrily says that they only have to help because the Biden administration refuses to protect its own people even when they’re “being held at the barrel of a gun.”
“We used to be feared, now we’re laughed at,” Bryan Stern told The Post of US failings that have forced him to maintain Project DYNAMO, the rescue force he first assembled after Biden’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
“There’s never been anything like DYNAMO before — because there’s never been a need for anything like DYNAMO before,” he said.
“The net result is Americans keep getting put in danger, and America keeps embarrassing itself on the world stage,” he said of what he sees as a weakened foreign response.
While he refused to single out any leaders for blame, Stern said he felt once again forced to “Americans are being held at the barrel of a gun” while terrorists continue to kidnap and kill citizens.
Leader of squad of military veterans heading to Israel blames Biden admin for failing to protect Americans
“Hamas thinks we’re idiots,” Project DYNAMO founder and CEO Bryan Stern told The Post of US weakness. “They’re laughing at us.”nypost.com
Folks this is a lot of bravado I cannot see how they can do anything. useful...
This is from the comments section on the Treehouse site that sums it up very well
Stringy theory
October 9, 2023 9:44 pm
Something to consider. Gaza has more than 2,000,000 residents and occupies 141 square miles. It is one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Kill them all as some have advocated sounds like a holocaust. If the IDF goes in, they will have to fight house by house. Their losses will likely prove staggering. Larry Johnson has a worthwhile piece on what the IDF wil face likening it to the battle of Iwo Jima that took a month to subdue the Japanese. He reckons it would take at least 4 months of that level of fierce fighting in Gaza, probably more. That’s assuming no other parties get involved like hezbolla. Will not be a cake walk.
Powerful National Address by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - The Last Refuge
In less than two minutes, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu outlined the nature of the barbarian enemy they face, but also dropped all pretending when he said, “Hamas is ISIS.” For those who understand the nature of the Middle East, not the pretend version pushed by western media and...theconservativetreehouse.com
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Dr. Evil
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Remove them from this country... by any means necessary.Democratic Socialists of America @DemSocialists held a rally in Times Square supporting Hamas Nazis murdering Jewish children and raping Jewish women (which is exactly what "By Any Means Necessary" means)
livingston
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From the comments section of the Treehouse.
Alex1689
October 9, 2023 10:10 pm
Reply to Stringy theory
I hate to break it to some here, but much, probably most, of the world’s population is not that fond of Israel, to the extent they care at all.
Cutting off food and water to something like 800,000 children and having their deaths from thirst and starvation live streamed over the course of weeks is not going to be a win. At best, it will be a short lived pyrrhic victory that unites the entire BRICS and beyond in supporting a coalition of nations from Turkey to Jordan to Syria to Saudi Arabia from doing a “humanitarian intervention ” ( i.e. a war that will be justified under international law to prevent a genocide). Maybe even the UN invades, if Biden doesn’t exercise a US veto.
I guess Israel can try to cut internet, but I doubt Elon Musk is going to cut Starlink.
There is not going to be four weeks in which to carry out Israeli operations if the water and food remain cut. I give it two weeks, at best, before images of dead and dying children win the world’s unification. And that’s assuming no intervening escalations, which seems unlikely.
Whether it’s Erdogan or MBS, within 2 weeks it’s going to be a choice between facing internal revolution of angry millions or take on Isreal.
Just a read out of the situation.
Dr. Evil
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Toss her ass out of the US while they are at it. Obviously she would prefer being with her kind over there.
spat
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That's why they would have to do it quickly.
Once the area is completely sterile, then there is nothing to "intervene" in.
If the "international community" wants to come in to count the bodies when it's all over, they can have at it.
But it would take them months to decide who gets to speak at the meeting to put together the coalition, so Isreal has plenty of time.
Dr. Evil
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If most people aren't fond of me, and I do what I have to do to protect my family ONCE AND FOR ALL, I really couldn't give two shits how it looks. I know why I needed to protect my family and that is good enough for me. If THEY didn't put me in this situation to begin with, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. THEY are the reason for others suffering, THEY are the reason it got to this point and THEY are the reason it must end this way. NEVER FORGET THAT.
Dr. Evil
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Just posted on FB. We'll see how long until they say I violated something.
WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC! Video out of Israel shows room full of children massacred by Hamas
Please share this video that is guaranteed to be banned. Hamas Gaza militant terrorists are roaming the streets and massacring people at random -men, women, and children ON SIGHT. They are also ki…barenakedislam.com
WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC! Video out of Israel shows room full of children massacred by Hamas
Please share this video that is guaranteed to be banned.
Folks I did not post this link to be graphic ... If you don't have a strong stomach don't click. The left covers up and deny everything. ... A month from now they will pretend to know nothing. ... Our communists in power and on the streets will vilify Israel for its actions ... People in the post above will still march in the streets supporting the terrorists ... Our Oatmeal brains for president will in a month withdraw his support for Israel ...
Withdraw military aid... You tube will not allow the atrocities done to be shown .. A sad day for the world ... The same thing will happen in Europe folks ... Europe will burn
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Millions of military age men entered Europe. I can guarantee few are shedding a tear for the events that happened . Most of these men have seen combat in their homeland ... So they have had a taste of war ... They know how to make an IED.. Clean an AK-47.... WW3 could very well have begun. ... So how much oil reserves do we have left folks ? We have not a clue as to who has entered our country from the south,,, Perhaps hundreds of thousands sent here with military training .... We will not be insulated from the turmoil ... When trouble starts here will the state police allow anyone to buy ammo ?
WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC! Video out of Israel shows room full of children massacred by Hamas
Please share this video that is guaranteed to be banned. Hamas Gaza militant terrorists are roaming the streets and massacring people at random -men, women, and children ON SIGHT. They are also ki…WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC! Video out of Israel shows room full of children massacred by Hamas
Please share this video that is guaranteed to be banned.
Folks I did not post this link to be graphic ... If you don't have a strong stomach don't click. The left covers up and deny everything. ... A month from now they will pretend to know nothing. ... Our communists in power and on the streets will vilify Israel for its actions ... People in the post above will still march in the streets supporting the terrorists ... Our Oatmeal brains for president will in a month withdraw his support for Israel ...
Withdraw military aid... You tube will not allow the atrocities done to be shown .. A sad day for the world ... The same thing will happen in Europe folks ... Europe will burn
The number of Muslims in European countries is estimated at 44 million, or 5% of the total population. See also Edit · European Islam · List of ...
Muslim Europe - Wikipedia
Millions of military age men entered Europe. I can guarantee few are shedding a tear for the events that happened . Most of these men have seen combat in their homeland ... So they have had a taste of war ... They know how to make an IED.. Clean an AK-47.... WW3 could very well have begun. ... So how much oil reserves do we have left folks ? We have not a clue as to who has entered our country from the south,,, Perhaps hundreds of thousands sent here with military training .... We will not be insulated from the turmoil ... When trouble starts here will the state police allow anyone to buy ammo ?
I agree with everything you've said.
I don't think I have the stomach to watch the video it will ruin my day.
100%.
If you are already disliked what's the point of trying to court public opinion? You have to look out for number 1 and damn the consequences
livingston
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Hamas hostages: Stories of the people taken from Israel
Around 59 hostages taken during 7 October attacks are still believed to be in Gaza.
www.bbc.com
Hamas hostages: 'My wife and children have been taken to Gaza'
- Families have spoken of the sheer panic of learning their loved ones may have been taken hostage by Hamas, after the militant group attacked Israel.
The Israeli military suggests dozens of people, including foreign nationals, have been taken as captives into Gaza. Here are some of their stories.
livingston
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'Nobody could help us' - Shock and anger in Israel's Ashkelon
Many Israelis I meet are shocked at how their powerful security forces were overwhelmed by the scale and complexity of the Hamas operation. Now there are complaints of a lack of help from the authorities.
'Nobody could help us' - Shock and anger in Israel's Ashkelon
Many people are shocked at how their powerful security forces were overwhelmed by Hamas.
www.bbc.com
Hamas hostages: Stories of the people taken from Israel
Around 59 hostages taken during 7 October attacks are still believed to be in Gaza.
Hamas hostages: 'My wife and children have been taken to Gaza'
- Families have spoken of the sheer panic of learning their loved ones may have been taken hostage by Hamas, after the militant group attacked Israel.
The Israeli military suggests dozens of people, including foreign nationals, have been taken as captives into Gaza. Here are some of their stories.
I can't imagine
Steal2B
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For those who have not worked with Israeli special operations, it may be minor solice but even as of yesterday numerous hostages were freed (although many are still held) and just under two thousand of Hamas Military men's bodies are rotting as their souls burn in hell. They are doing their job, it is not a PR campaign, and we should care less that the press is isolated from their efforts.
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Dr. Evil
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It's like gun owners when an evil person kills innocent people. They will never like law abiding gun owners and the more some try to appease them the worse it gets for us. You have to know what's right and look out for your own best interests knowing full well you aren't the problem while at the same time not giving a rat's ass about what others think about you.
livingston
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An interesting take on the world affairs.
www.timesofisrael.com
Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
Cairo official says Israel focused on West Bank instead of Gaza; Egypt's spy chief said to warn PM of 'terrible operation,' Netanyahu denies it
www.timesofisrael.com
Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’
Cairo official says Israel focused on West Bank instead of Gaza; Egypt’s spy chief said to warn PM of ‘terrible operation,’ Netanyahu denies it
pjzwtl
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She should be flying outside the capital
kev74
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If Israel has EMPs, Gaza would be a good place to test them
No need if they cut off power and water.
livingston
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Ours were tracking Trump supporters..
kev74
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They'll be charging cell phones off of car batteries for weeks or months. Cell phone towers likely have generator back up - at least some of them. The head honchos likely have satellite phones.
Kill the phones and you'll kill comes and PR videos showing up on social media.
The arab nations don't care about the palestinians except as a tool to cudgel the Israelis with in the court of public opinion. If Israel were to wipe out all 2 million in Gaza they would scream and shout but it's unlikely they would actually do anything militarily in response. Hell, there would be far more outrage in this country and the west. The attitude of saudi arabia is key. They have been working behind the scenes with the Israelis for years to counter the Iranians. If they believe an alliance with Israel is still in their best interest then it's adios muchachos.
I still don't know what the strategy will be. Sending their army into the gaza strip will be like Leningrad 2.0. It will result in lots of casualties for the IDF. Their blood is boiling now but what will they do a month or two from now when they occupy only half of gaza and they take hundreds or thousands of casualties per day.
Not to mention the Egyptians claim they warned the Israelis in advance but were ignored. It's getting harder to believe the "intelligence failure" narrative.
The Spy Factory
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13 years ago PBS presented the Spy Factory.
The NSA in 1998, had total access/control of Osama bin Ladens Satellite phones--both sides of conversations, AS DID the CIA and this has only expanded into today's tech.... We knew all about the 911 plotters and released their names the same day..........
Obviously the NSA knew what Iran was plotting today, as did Israel. Can't attack, before you are attacked.......................BAIT
There is no privacy today,and the ability to spy from on high, and from ground drones looking up or from sides of buildings and roofs,....... is un-parralled.
This will be an absolute slaughter of Hamas. 2 MILLION live in the Gaza...........the dead will not be counted, but by their absence in the new, green, Gaza Nature Park.
The libs are going nuts, which is the very best part.