Woman arrested for carrying guns at Liberty High School

[GOYABEAN]

C'mon man just 3

Woman arrested for carrying guns at Liberty High School

LIBERTY- A 38-year-old Monticello woman has been arrested for having multiple handguns on the campus of Liberty High School. According to the Village of Libe

midhudsonnews.com

 

[kev74]

Don't talk to the cops!



"Where are you coming from?"

"I just picked junior up from school."

"Do you have any guns in the car?"

"Just these three."

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Yep, either that, or someone blew her ass in. Apparently, her guns were all registered as there were no other specific gun charges. Can't forgo the possibility that the cops knew she was a handgun owner from her license tag (the cops in my hometown did), or that they pulled the old "Do you have anything I need to be afraid of in your vehicle" BS. And she probably didn't think twice in answering such an inquiry, affirming that she was a licensed CCW holder.... Or, she may have been driving her spouse's car, or something similar.

I remember when I was living back in New Yorkistan, with my kids in school, how between dropping them off in the morning, or picking them up after school, since I was already on the local PD's radar, that I NORMALLY either left my gun at my office, or took or left it home BEFORE going to their school, and got re-strapped afterwards. I do also recall a couple of times when I had to pick them up unexpectedly while carrying, and I made them walk off school grounds to the public road nearby.

It was a huge PITA, but there was no way I was going to give those fuckers an opportunity.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Don't talk to the cops!



"Where are you coming from?"

"I just picked junior up from school."

"Do you have any guns in the car?"

"Just these three."

When I have been stopped by the cops, and asked where I am coming from, I have pointed behind me and said "that direction". Where am I headed was met with a similar response, "that direction" while pointing to the front of my vehicle. Cops asking questions are NOT your friends, and it is none of their damn business anyway.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

When I have been stopped by the cops, and asked where I am coming from, I have pointed behind me and said "that direction". Where am I headed was met with a similar response, "that direction" while pointing to the front of my vehicle. Cops asking questions are NOT your friends, and it is none of their damn business anyway.

If they're asking those questions 99% of the time it's to trip you up and try to catch you doing something that they otherwise wouldn't be aware of. They're not trying to be friendly or talkative.

Saying less is best.


Clearly nothing happened prior to this encounter when she was at school, she clearly wasn't a threat to anyone, but yet because of a few words in another encounter not on school property she is now going to get to be made an example out of and have her life ruined when she was otherwise just going about her way.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

A better way to answer the question "just out driving around listening to the radio and enjoying the sun, it's fun" not going or coming from anywhere.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

We are allowed to have guns in our vehicles on school property in TN. State law allows guns in vehicles everywhere, actually.

 

[repete]

We are allowed to have guns in our vehicles on school property in TN. State law allows guns in vehicles everywhere, actually.

Keep rubbing it in, ya know we all hate you? jk

 

[Doc8404]

We are allowed to have guns in our vehicles on school property in TN. State law allows guns in vehicles everywhere, actually.

Did they do away with the federal law that prohibited Guns on campus?

 

[ManualF150]

Did they do away with the federal law that prohibited Guns on campus?

I don't bring guns to schools, but don't quote me on this, but I believe the the federal Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 was deemed unconstitutional.

If done up right, I could see this hit SCOTUS. But I doubt it.

However, there is likely way more to the story than what meets the article, and what they are willing to let out to the masses. As usual.

Unless they have reasonable and clear evidence (testimonies from people at the school from witnesses, video camera footage, etc), this will likely get thrown out.

At the end of the day, hopefully she learned that cops aren't your friends during a traffic stop and to keep your damn mouth shut.

Or in other words use the verbal judo against them.

And if you aren't good with verbal judo, then best way is silence and be very, very generic if answering questions.

 

[RedBreast21]

One down the rest to go with the new NY law. Now she will be a felon. No 2A for you! Or any other right. This is the intent of the law people. They are banking on your bravado and "It's my right and my county won't charge me!" or whatever BS chest thumping crap you spout off.

SCOTUS took less than a week to interject in Texas violating a SCOTUS ruling from a few years ago. Why are they waiting with NY? We all know why.

Think you have a "carry" permit issued by NYS? You don't. You have permit waiting to be charged a felon. Nothing more.

Be careful what you say here. No doubt its monitored.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Did they do away with the federal law that prohibited Guns on campus?

In sum, persons who carry a handgun pursuant to Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1351, the
enhanced handgun carry permit statute, or Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1366, the concealed handgun
carry permit statute, are specifically excepted from application of the federal Gun-Free School
Zones Act. But a person who carries a handgun without a permit pursuant to Tenn. Code Ann.
§ 39-17-1307(g) and stores a handgun in a vehicle on the grounds of a school covered by the
federal Gun-Free School Zones Act risks prosecution unless that person qualifies for an exception

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Don't elaborate on your answers and get chatty. If they want to fish....let them bring their own bait and tackle.

 

[Doc8404]

In sum, persons who carry a handgun pursuant to Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1351, the
enhanced handgun carry permit statute, or Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1366, the concealed handgun
carry permit statute, are specifically excepted from application of the federal Gun-Free School
Zones Act. But a person who carries a handgun without a permit pursuant to Tenn. Code Ann.
§ 39-17-1307(g) and stores a handgun in a vehicle on the grounds of a school covered by the
federal Gun-Free School Zones Act risks prosecution unless that person qualifies for an exception

Interesting. Multitude of conflicting info.

Bills to let Tenn. teachers and citizens carry guns in schools advance in legislature

Tensions rise in Tennessee’s gun debate after Gov. Bill Lee called lawmakers back to the Capitol in response to a deadly Nashville school shooting.

www.chalkbeat.org

 

[Far king]

Don't elaborate on your answers and get chatty. If they want to fish....let them bring their own bait and tackle.

When I am pulled over by the po po l don’t want to give them any excuse to screw up my day. All l want is to continue on my way.
I don’t consider them as adversaries in the first place , most of them in my local seem to normal folks who just want to work their shift an go home to their families.

There have been times over the years where l have encountered some real pricks that I could tell were on some kind of power trip, looking for a reason to cause pain for whatever reason- stale donut, who knows?

l have zero respect for this kind and really despise them but I always show them respect and play their little game then usually they send me on my way.

 

[Acer-m14]

i remember a few years a go a woman got the red light to pull over for a traffic stop

and she pulled into the school parking lot

to tack on some more charges ..

 

[Saltwater60]

Don't talk to the cops!



"Where are you coming from?"

"I just picked junior up from school."

"Do you have any guns in the car?"

"Just these three."

I’d like to know the backstory here. Could be a cops ex girlfriend or someone somebody doesn’t like. It’s not hard to figure out if she was coming from the school. Her kid could have been in the backseat with a backpack and 12 kids running around right after the school bell. They did say an investigation so what’s that mean? He asked her and she said yes ok then dumb. He asked her and she said no but this cop had a hard on for her so he went and looked at the school cameras or asked teachers.
I agree don’t talk to the cops because even in my experience ones you know won’t record what you say accurately anyway in their report.

 

[Bigfoot]

They are banking on your bravado and "It's my right and my county won't charge me!" or whatever BS chest thumping crap you spout off.

Be careful what you say here. No doubt its monitored.

I don't recall any of that going on here.


We knew that before you were even a member here.

 

[RedBreast21]

I don't recall any of that going on here.


We knew that before you were even a member here.

Oh I have seen it.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I don't know if this would help her (and hopefully her attorney) fight this, but there was a case in the City of Buffalo / Erie County several years back. Time gets blurred, but I seem to recall it was before 2018, and after 2012?

Anyway, what happened was that a man who may have either been mentoring students at the school, or possibly working there, was spotted carrying concealed, and someone called it in. A big ass police response ensued. In any event, they arrested him. He claimed that he had forgotten that he was even carrying, and that he realized it when the cops showed up, - which is when he tried to get out of the school but it was locked down, and I think he tried to play like he was invisible...But I recall that they frisked him and found it.

He was a somewhat politically connected black guy from Buffalo's East Side Ghetto, and the screaming began immediately that it was racist to be going after him. Ended up that either the DA refused to prosecute, or the Judge let him off. But he DEFINITELY got off.

Edit: Found it. Here is a link or two about it: After-school Teacher Carrying a Gun Prompts Lockdown

And: GUN STUN: Gun control activist swears he forgot he was carrying gun while visiting school

And: Buffalo activist removed from positions

An even bigger irony, is that he was an anti-gun hypocrite who campaigned for passage of the fucking SAFE Act (which changed the act of carrying on school grounds from a Misdemeanor to a Felony), - all the while HE is carrying with his CCW. I am not certain what he was convicted of, or plead to, however, he got sentenced to community service. And the Judge in his case was Judge Jeanette Ogden, another Affirmative Action hire...

 

[Willyone]

It might be interesting to hear "the rest of the story"... as Paul Harvey used to say.

 

[Far king]

I don't know if this would help her (and hopefully her attorney) fight this, but there was a case in the City of Buffalo / Erie County several years back. Time gets blurred, but I seem to recall it was before 2018, and after 2012?

Anyway, what happened was that a man who may have either been mentoring students at the school, or possibly working there, was spotted carrying concealed, and someone called it in. A big ass police response ensued. In any event, they arrested him. He claimed that he had forgotten that he was even carrying, and that he realized it when the cops showed up, - which is when he tried to get out of the school but it was locked down, and I think he tried to play like he was invisible...But I recall that they frisked him and found it.

He was a somewhat politically connected black guy from Buffalo's East Side Ghetto, and the screaming began immediately that it was racist to be going after him. Ended up that either the DA refused to prosecute, or the Judge let him off. But he DEFINITELY got off.

Edit: Found it. Here is a link or two about it: After-school Teacher Carrying a Gun Prompts Lockdown

And: GUN STUN: Gun control activist swears he forgot he was carrying gun while visiting school

And: Buffalo activist removed from positions

An even bigger irony, is that he was an anti-gun hypocrite who campaigned for passage of the fucking SAFE Act (which changed the act of carrying on school grounds from a Misdemeanor to a Felony), - all the while HE is carrying with his CCW. I am not certain what he was convicted of, or plead to, however, he got sentenced to community service. And the Judge in his case was Judge Jeanette Ogden, another Affirmative Action hire...

I can only surmise that all of us here on this forum would never forget that we are carrying ( l never have) much less walk into a school with a firearm.

lt is also my guess that few or none of us at all would get away Scot free if we were caught, instead our lives would be ruined mercilessly and life would never be the same.

oh to be blessed with black privilege.

 

[Willyone]

I can only surmise that all of us here on this forum would never forget that we are carrying ( l never have) much less walk into a school with a firearm.

lt is also my guess that few or none of us at all would get away Scot free if we were caught, instead our lives would be ruined mercilessly and life would never be the same.

oh to be blessed with black privilege.

Agreed, hard to simply forget that we're carrying, regardless of where we are.

Wondering... Did she enter the school building, or even get out of her car when at the school? Or did she just drive onto school grounds to pick up her kid/s?

And just curious here, why did she have three hand guns in her car? Not that she isn't allowed to have them, it just seems a bit odd is all.
And face it... as Joe shitzhizpantz eludes to, you wouldn't need 3 guns to kill a deer, right?

Yeah, black privilege, if I got caught up in a similar situation I would immediately let the officer know that I identify as a black woman, actually a gay black woman, a gay black woman migrant/newcomer

 

[Clancy]

The article doesn't say if the woman was carrying or not. She could have had them in a case in the trunk of the car, for all we know. As I understand it, just that she had them on school property is all the cops needed to arrest her.

 

[byron]

she wasn't on school property at the time of the stop good lawyer should be able to get her off they did not witness her on school property with them

handgun were found during a traffic stop. Subsequent inquiry showed that Jones had been on Liberty High School property prior to the traffic stop, carrying all three firearms in the same car.

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[Willyone]

she wasn't on school property at the time of the stop good lawyer should be able to get her off they did not witness her on school property with them

handgun were found during a traffic stop. Subsequent inquiry showed that Jones had been on Liberty High School property prior to the traffic stop, carrying all three firearms in the same car.

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She may or may not loose in court but either way, she will spend a shit load of $$ for her defense.

 

[Milt Farrow]

I don't know if this would help her (and hopefully her attorney) fight this, but there was a case in the City of Buffalo / Erie County several years back. Time gets blurred, but I seem to recall it was before 2018, and after 2012?

Anyway, what happened was that a man who may have either been mentoring students at the school, or possibly working there, was spotted carrying concealed, and someone called it in. A big ass police response ensued. In any event, they arrested him. He claimed that he had forgotten that he was even carrying, and that he realized it when the cops showed up, - which is when he tried to get out of the school but it was locked down, and I think he tried to play like he was invisible...But I recall that they frisked him and found it.

He was a somewhat politically connected black guy from Buffalo's East Side Ghetto, and the screaming began immediately that it was racist to be going after him. Ended up that either the DA refused to prosecute, or the Judge let him off. But he DEFINITELY got off.

Edit: Found it. Here is a link or two about it: After-school Teacher Carrying a Gun Prompts Lockdown

And: GUN STUN: Gun control activist swears he forgot he was carrying gun while visiting school

And: Buffalo activist removed from positions

An even bigger irony, is that he was an anti-gun hypocrite who campaigned for passage of the fucking SAFE Act (which changed the act of carrying on school grounds from a Misdemeanor to a Felony), - all the while HE is carrying with his CCW. I am not certain what he was convicted of, or plead to, however, he got sentenced to community service. And the Judge in his case was Judge Jeanette Ogden, another Affirmative Action hire...

It was Rev. Darius Pritcher (SP?).

 

[VietnamEraVet]

It was Rev. Darius Pritcher (SP?).

You may be referring to Buffalo's own SJW crusading Reverend, Darius Pridgen? However, I am not aware of Rev. Pridgen doing such a thing.

I recommend you go back and read the articles linked in my Post #20 of this thread, and your own Post #27 above. The individual arrested was a Mr. Dwayne Ferguson.