NY AG James tells hospitals to continue transgender care after Trump’s executive order

[Koz]

In general, I don't care what you do with your body as an adult. Just so long as it doesn't impact my life. Taxpayer funding for these various trans programs and the associated medical care are the sort of things of which I strongly disapprove. Parents, doctors, health workers, etc. who sway impressionable children into the trans world are committing a crime and should be prosecuted accordingly.
For James, she is and will always be a power-hungry pig. May she rot in hell (sooner than later).

 

[libertysnake]

In general, I don't care what you do with your body as an adult. Just so long as it doesn't impact my life. Taxpayer funding for these various trans programs and the associated medical care are the sort of things of which I strongly disapprove. Parents, doctors, health workers, etc. who sway impressionable children into the trans world are committing a crime and should be prosecuted accordingly.
For James, she is and will always be a power-hungry pig. May she rot in hell (sooner than later).

There is nothing you said I don't agree with here. My only issues with other posters are mainly related to controlling adults.

Children is a whole other ball of wax and I think it needs to very cautious about what can be done and when. I get the intent -- wanting the child to be able get ahead of the curve in the transition process. But a child can't give consent like an adult can, otherwise we'd allow them to vote and drink sooner.

 

[Phazer]

I wouldn't say whomever she opposes. Use the chance to steer the party in the direction you want it to go, back to center and back to personal freedoms.

Agreed... that's what I do for Dem primaries.

This is a general election. So, I never vote for the anti-American liberal progressive socialist democrat candidate.

 

[Steal2B]

Asshole is bluffing since there is Supremacy of Federal Laws, Regulations, and Executive orders over her precious State Laws, or regulations.

It's not just about mutilating kids.

It's shit like this where Letitia the Hut strong arms Hospitals, Insurance Companies, Doctors, Medicaid, etc to pay for elective surgeries that "address" delusions or fantasies which leads to increased medical insurance rates in NY, fewer decent practicing doctors in NY, higher medical costs / overhead in NY and higher taxes in NY.

Yeah, kids should not be mutilated and adults who want to mutilate themselves should be doing so out of their own pocket on their own dime and not on the backs of others in the insurance pools or tax base.

 

[tirwin1]

If these sorts of situations are happening in the way you describe, and it isn't done with informed consent, then I'd agree.

The thing is it's not how you act, nor your interests that determine your internal gender. If a doctor was looking solely at that then that is incorrect to go about it that way.

There is a book which is drastically better than the show they made out of it called Altered Carbon. There is one particular quote which is more along the lines of the experience trans people face than anything outward people on here would criticize. Because it's an internal feeling of unease for them, not an outward change of interests speech.


It's how you think about yourself. How you see yourself, which then in turn triggers how you react and modify your behavior in relation to your feelings but also social stigma. That's why understanding how they view themselves is paramount in these situations and consent is so important. It comes from inside not outside.

And if they are an adult and want pay for the surgery, fine. But to force these children to go through this is a monstrously evil act. How are you not understanding this?

 

[libertysnake]

And if they are an adult and want pay for the surgery, fine. But to force these children to go through this is a monstrously evil act. How are you not understanding this?

Did you read any of the posts I made before this point?

 

[spat]

If these sorts of situations are happening in the way you describe, and it isn't done with informed consent, then I'd agree.

The thing is it's not how you act, nor your interests that determine your internal gender. If a doctor was looking solely at that then that is incorrect to go about it that way.

There is a book which is drastically better than the show they made out of it called Altered Carbon. There is one particular quote which is more along the lines of the experience trans people face than anything outward people on here would criticize. Because it's an internal feeling of unease for them, not an outward change of interests speech.


It's how you think about yourself. How you see yourself, which then in turn triggers how you react and modify your behavior in relation to your feelings but also social stigma. That's why understanding how they view themselves is paramount in these situations and consent is so important. It comes from inside not outside.

Anorexic people see themselves as fat, despite the reality of the situation being that they are dangerously skinny.

Imagine a doctor who's prescribed course of treatment for anorexia was diet pills and liposuction.

That would absolutely be malpractice.

 

[spat]

If these sorts of situations are happening in the way you describe, and it isn't done with informed consent, then I'd agree.

The thing is it's not how you act, nor your interests that determine your internal gender. If a doctor was looking solely at that then that is incorrect to go about it that way.

There is a book which is drastically better than the show they made out of it called Altered Carbon. There is one particular quote which is more along the lines of the experience trans people face than anything outward people on here would criticize. Because it's an internal feeling of unease for them, not an outward change of interests speech.


It's how you think about yourself. How you see yourself, which then in turn triggers how you react and modify your behavior in relation to your feelings but also social stigma. That's why understanding how they view themselves is paramount in these situations and consent is so important. It comes from inside not outside.

If you want a good idea of how bad things are watch this.

 

[pshift]

Individuals should pay for their own disillusionment with society and self.

 

[libertysnake]

Anorexic people see themselves as fat, despite the reality of the situation being that they are dangerously skinny.

That's not even close to the same thing.

 

[libertysnake]

If you want a good idea of how bad things are watch this.

I'm not totally sold on everything he's saying. There were a few instances where he glosses over things such as the distribution of homo or heterosexuality between men and women which is pretty obvious why -- the reporting is skewed. That should've been a slam-dunk easy starting hypothesis. A few times like that watching this video I have to question where his logic is coming from.

Also this is one, potentially questionable, source.

 

[spat]

That's not even close to the same thing.

It's exactly the same thing.

Body dismorphia.

People who's physical body doesn't match their internal idea of their identity.

But, before you can have any serious discussion of gender, you need to establish what it means. And none of the transgender advocates will ever pin down an actual definition for the terms.

Saying "I am a woman" or "I am a man" is meaningless without a concrete definition for "woman" and "man" But they can never provide one, because then they either fit it or they don't.

If they fit the definition, then they're not "trans" anything they're just ordinary, and if they don't fit it then they can't claim to be that gender by definition.

The whole concept of "transgender" is just "I don't like the definitions society has for these words".

And don't even get started on the other 8153 "genders".

 

[spat]

I'm not totally sold on everything he's saying. There were a few instances where he glosses over things such as the distribution of homo or heterosexuality between men and women which is pretty obvious why -- the reporting is skewed. That should've been a slam-dunk easy starting hypothesis. A few times like that watching this video I have to question where his logic is coming from.

Also this is one, potentially questionable, source.

He is talking about clinical studies, which should be controlled for the differences in reporting.

And he isn't talking about numbers of self reported hero or homosexuals anyway. He is talking about the distribution of attraction.

You don't have to be gay to recognize that Chris Hemsworth is better looking than Steve Buscemi.

 

[libertysnake]

It's exactly the same thing.

Body dismorphia.

People who's physical body doesn't match their internal idea of their identity.

But, before you can have any serious discussion of gender, you need to establish what it means. And none of the transgender advocates will ever pin down an actual definition for the terms.

Saying "I am a woman" or "I am a man" is meaningless without a concrete definition for "woman" and "man" But they can never provide one, because then they either fit it or they don't.

If they fit the definition, then they're not "trans" anything they're just ordinary, and if they don't fit it then they can't claim to be that gender by definition.

The whole concept of "transgender" is just "I don't like the definitions society has for these words".

And don't even get started on the other 8153 "genders".

Who gives two shits what the hell people call themselves? Are they bothering you so badly that you need to be so involved in the personal lives of other people?

It doesn't matter. Their lives are no ones concern but their own. I'm not going to support overreach into what other people do with their bodies.

 

[spat]

Who gives two shits what the hell people call themselves? Are they bothering you so badly that you need to be so involved in the personal lives of other people?

It doesn't matter. Their lives are no ones concern but their own. I'm not going to support overreach into what other people do with their bodies.

Nobody would care, if they didn't insist on demanding everyone else take them seriously.

I am sure the majority just want to live their lives in their assumed social role and not bother anyone.

That's their business, and it really wouldn't bother most people.

But, they have a very vocal minority that actively demand attention and parade around like clowns demanding people accept ever more ridiculous behavior.

When you have people who are going to great lengths to intentionally provoke outrage, don't be surprised when people start expressing outrage.

And if you let the drama queens do it in your name without protest, then you're going to suffer, even if you just want to blend in.

So, don't be pissed at the public for doing what the public does. Be pissed at the people who are going out of their way to provoke them, and using your name to do it.

So, if you want to direct your anger on the issue, here is where you should direct it.

If you can't see that this has nothing to do with "gender identity" and everything to do with attention seeking, I can't help you.



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[96coal449]

This whole topic is a big fat tub of fucking bull shit laying on sweaty moose nuts. Completely fucking disgusting.

Transgender is all about non reproductive citizens. Can't have moral family values without the true moral family.

A weaker republic. The establishment wins with the further destruction of such.

The asylums were closed for what? Granted, some institutions were way out of bounds in their operations but, the good ones that operated professionally, were shielded from public eye.

@libertysnake do you have children? Even as adults? If you do and have no issue with either mutilating themselves, you're morally fucked up.

 

[FP1201]

18 year olds are adults. Trump has no business telling people who are of the she of consent what they can and cannot do with their bodies. That is an overstep by your government. It's OUR Government.

If this were more explicitly aimed at children, I could see that. I'd like to know about what that entails and what the long term life satisfaction rates how about suicide and sever mental health rates? are for children that transition. That's the data that is crucial to determine whether it is "maiming" anyone. it IS maiming by consent.

Still, even if it wasn't maiming them and satisfaction were high, does that NOT mean that people under 18 or 17 can give consent? You can't say the age of consent is over ones body is 18 and then allow them to do things that would require their explicit consent as an individual to make a life altering choice.

Overall I'm in support of blocking this as James has done since it overlaps with people who can give consent, which is federal overreach. If it were more targeted we have a discussion. It's duplicitous the State claims to be protecting and the safety of its Citizens is of upmost concern, but will bless Abortion at any stage, reproductive destruction, and know debilitating health issues associated with Puberty Blockers, and Neuro-Chemical Drugs,

I don't think its so much him telling kids what they can do with their bodies, more so the demand that the Federal Government pay for it.
Kinda ironic they can decide at 18-19-20 to cut off their dicks or tits, but can't buy a gun, alcohol, cannabis, tobacco, and a litany of other things these "Adults" can't do because they're too immature. Under 18, I say no fucking way, so if you're going to make eighteen year olds adults, then it's all or nothing.

 

[Robin]

Wow, someone got a variant of the Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
Robin

 

[libertysnake]

Nobody would care, if they didn't insist on demanding everyone else take them seriously.

I am sure the majority just want to live their lives in their assumed social role and not bother anyone.

That's their business, and it really wouldn't bother most people.

But, they have a very vocal minority that actively demand attention and parade around like clowns demanding people accept ever more ridiculous behavior.

When you have people who are going to great lengths to intentionally provoke outrage, don't be surprised when people start expressing outrage.

And if you let the drama queens do it in your name without protest, then you're going to suffer, even if you just want to blend in.

So, don't be pissed at the public for doing what the public does. Be pissed at the people who are going out of their way to provoke them, and using your name to do it.

So, if you want to direct your anger on the issue, here is where you should direct it.

If you can't see that this has nothing to do with "gender identity" and everything to do with attention seeking, I can't help you.

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That's not what most transgender people are like at all. You're pointing to a minority and trying to justify hatred of a majority.

 

[spat]

That's not what most transgender people are like at all. You're pointing to a minority and trying to justify hatred of a majority.

You're not wrong.

And I'm not justifying anything, I'm explaining it.

If they want things to get better, they need to make it clear that the clowns do not represent them.

 

[libertysnake]

You're not wrong.

And I'm not justifying anything, I'm explaining it.

If they want things to get better, they need to make it clear that the clowns do not represent them.

You're just seeing the clowns because that gets the most coverage. Trans people don't have to do anything more than non trans people do every time someone does something crazy.

Let's be objective. Trans people aren't out to assault people and just want to live in peace. Most are not out trying to look like clowns.

 

[Dr. Evil]

You're just seeing the clowns because that gets the most coverage. Trans people don't have to do anything more than non trans people do every time someone does something crazy.

Let's be objective. Trans people aren't out to assault people and just want to live in peace. Most are not out trying to look like clowns.

So why don't they speak up and speak out against the freaks that are ruining it for them then? All I hear are crickets.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Send them all to Greenland.

 

[kev74]

So why don't they speak up and speak out against the freaks that are ruining it for them then? All I hear are crickets.

The bigger the clown, the more they get celebrated.

Almost like it's a sad cry for attention.

 

[livingston]

 

[Bigfoot]

Jumbo's an asshole.

 

[Beerman]

Asshole is bluffing since there is Supremacy of Federal Laws, Regulations, and Executive orders over her precious State Laws, or regulations.

Yeah, right. The Excelsior State bows to no one. The Empire shall kneel to no other. Long live the Empire!

 

[Saltwater60]

So does this mean target sport USA can tell her to piss off and ship us ammo directly to our doors avoiding NYS law because they aren’t subject to it. I see no law saying we can’t buy it and the only punishment is for those selling it without a background check

 

[SonOfSun]

Federal overreach.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So the mental patients are calling for a "Transgender Revolution." Someone once told me to never let the inmates run the asylum.

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