Things are heating up between the US and Iran thread

[SomeSoldier]

I think this is two fold.
1. Israel told us to and everyone in government is bought and paid for or blackmailed.
2. The US is ready to shit itself economically and people are close to a civil war in parts of this country.

This war will distract us from Ice and deportation satisfy Israel's demands for paid services and boost the economy for another 5 years or so before is collapses.

 

[spat]

With air superiority there is no need for the US to rush in. I do wonder what the feedback the goat fuckers are getting from Russia and especially China.

The only real thing they need us for is the MOPs.

They are the only bomb that can reach deep enough for that uranium enrichment site.

The B2 is the only aircraft that can deliver them.

And we're not loaning or selling them to anyone.

 

[Cavalry]

This war will distract us from Ice and deportation satisfy Israel's demands for paid services and boost the economy for another 5 years or so before is collapses.

The market I am in daily is more accurate than any stock forecast. It is based on rich people spending rich people money. When shit gets bad even rich people squander millions in unnecessary expenditures. It has been 100% accurate for the last 20 years I have been in this industry.
They are currently spending like drunken sailors, so it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

 

[tirwin1]

The market I am in daily is more accurate than any stock forecast. It is based on rich people spending rich people money. When shit gets bad even rich people squander millions in unnecessary expenditures. It has been 100% accurate for the last 20 years I have been in this industry.
They are currently spending like drunken sailors, so it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Could you expand on this? I know of no system or market that is 100% accurate for a period of 20 years. What market specifically are you referencing?

 

[livingston]

Retired four-star general says there are other options to bunker-buster but warns of more risks​

 

[Cavalry]

Could you expand on this? I know of no system or market that is 100% accurate for a period of 20 years. What market specifically are you referencing?

I am involved in manufacturing of a product that is exclusively sold to the top percentages of the wealthy (individuals, corporations, nations, etc). I shouldn't say 100% accurate, but very, very accurate on predicting the overall market direction days to weeks, sometimes months in advance. I attribute this to rich people have money people on staff that tell them when to spend and when not to.

 

[tirwin1]

I am involved in manufacturing of a product that is exclusively sold to the top percentages of the wealthy (individuals, corporations, nations, etc). I shouldn't say 100% accurate, but very, very accurate on predicting the overall market direction days to weeks, sometimes months in advance. I attribute this to rich people have money people on staff that tell them when to spend and when not to.

Can you share the product?

 

[C3D]

 

[Cavalry]

Can you share the product?

I cannot, as its a fairly small industry. Lets just say its a major luxury component of one of the priciest things a president, CEO, sultan or prince would have at their disposal.

 

[stokes]

Lets just say its a major luxury component of one of the priciest things a president, CEO, sultan or prince would have at their disposal.

Vaginal lube for their goo-mod?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I cannot, as its a fairly small industry. Lets just say its a major luxury component of one of the priciest things a president, CEO, sultan or prince would have at their disposal.

It's clearly revolving beds for private jets

 

[tirwin1]

I cannot, as its a fairly small industry. Lets just say its a major luxury component of one of the priciest things a president, CEO, sultan or prince would have at their disposal.

A bidet?

 

[spat]

I'm fine with Israel "excavating" into the Fordow site with repeated sorties of their smaller penetrator munitions.

If we do not have to help....great.

Not sure it works like that.

The GBU-57 "Massive Ordinance Penetrator" is a 30,000 lb bomb 20 feet long that is specifically designed to destroy *very* deeply buried targets.

It can penetrate *60 feet* of reinforced concrete or 200 feet of normal earth and rock.

The normal "bunker busters" like the GBU-72 that Isreal can use are *much* smaller at 5000lbs.

It's not just a matter of dropping 10x as many of the smaller bombs and tunneling your way down.

And the Fordow site is buried so deeply it would likely take multiple hits from the GBU-57.

If that job could have been done with a flight of B52s dropping dozens of GBU-72s, they never would have designed the GBU-57.

If Isreal could destroy it with GBU-72s they already would have. I'm pretty sure they stock them in inventory, and it's basically the best bunker buster anyone has that can be dropped by anything other than the spicy dorito.

GBU-57A/B MOP - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

GBU-72 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[GOYABEAN]

Somewhere I read Iran had a 5.something earthquake today

 

[Bigfoot]

Somewhere I read Iran had a 5.something earthquake today

AI Overview

A magnitude 5.1 earthquake struck near Tehran, Iran, at a depth of 10 kilometers. The earthquake's epicenter was located in Semnan, approximately 145 miles east of Tehran, according to The Mirror US and Kurdistan24. Tremors were felt in Tehran. There have been no reports of casualties or damage so far. The earthquake occurred amid rising tensions between Iran and Israel, with reports of Israeli strikes on Iranian targets, including the Fordow nuclear facility.


There have been 2 other earthquakes in Iran over the last few days.
A 2.5 and a 4.3. In addition to today's 5.1.

1:00 video


Iran is one of the most earthquake-prone nations in the world.
Probably the most bombed at the moment too.

 

[Bigfoot]

Can bombs cause earthquakes?


AI Overview

Yes, bombs can cause earthquakes, but the resulting seismic events are generally much smaller than natural earthquakes. While large explosions, especially nuclear detonations, can trigger seismic waves and even small earthquakes, they are unlikely to cause major tectonic shifts or trigger large, destructive earthquakes.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Seismic Waves:
  Any explosion, including bombs, generates seismic waves that can be detected by seismometers. These waves are similar to those produced by earthquakes, but the energy released by a bomb is typically much smaller.
  
  
• Induced Earthquakes:
  While a bomb's impact can trigger an earthquake, it's usually a small, localized event. The energy released by the explosion is not comparable to the energy stored in tectonic plates and released during a major earthquake.
  
  
• • Nuclear Explosions:
    Nuclear explosions, due to their immense power, can generate stronger seismic waves and potentially trigger earthquakes, but these are still typically smaller than natural quakes.
  • Tectonic Plates:
    Earthquakes are primarily caused by the movement and friction of tectonic plates. Bomb explosions, even nuclear ones, do not have the capacity to significantly alter the movement or stress on these plates to trigger a major earthquake.
  • Examples:
    Historical examples like the Tsar Bomba (a 50-58 megaton nuclear weapon) generated a seismic event registering between 5.0 and 5.25 on the Richter scale. While significant, this is far smaller than the magnitude 8.9 earthquake that struck Japan in 2011. Similarly, North Korea's 2017 nuclear test triggered a smaller earthquake, but not a major tectonic event.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Internet rumors of a significant B2 and tanker deployment from CONUS last night heading out over the Pacific.

 

[C3D]

Internet rumors of a significant B2 and tanker deployment from CONUS last night heading out over the Pacific.

Not rumors, it's confirmed as there are photos of the B2s leaving Missouri last night. Which leads me to believe they were intentionally taken by the .gov and posted on X for Iran to see. Maximum saber rattling.

 

[FP1201]

Not rumors, it's confirmed as there are photos of the B2s leaving Missouri last night. Which leads me to believe they were intentionally taken by the .gov and posted on X for Iran to see. Maximum saber rattling.

Hopefully the arrogant assholes will realize Trump very much IS fuck around, find out.

 

[stokes]

Hopefully the arrogant assholes will realize Trump very much IS fuck around, find out.

I'm sure everybody, Xi, Putin and all the rest know this. Its a great deterrent from them doing the stupid shit they like to do to fuck with us, coming just short of provoking us past the point. Last time we had a leader like this was Reagan. Thats why I find it so ridiculous that the left keeps trying to portray Russia and China as pushing to support Trump, he's the last guy any of them want to deal with. He is a real "loose cannon"

 

[FP1201]

I'm sure everybody, Xi, Putin and all the rest know this. Its a great deterrent from them doing the stupid shit they like to do to fuck with us, coming just short of provoking us past the point. Last time we had a leader like this was Reagan. Thats why I find it so ridiculous that the left keeps trying to portray Russia and China as pushing to support Trump, he's the last guy any of them want to deal with. He is a real "loose cannon"

Xi and China are as much a Potemkin Village as the American Economy and going to War with a major power can easily bankrupt both.
China has sneakiness and a long running espionage against the US and ostensibly our Allies, more Soldiers than we do, but I doubt many are motivated by much more that the prospect of being executed by their own Leaders for a lack of motivation, and while We are pretty much disorganized, I'll just bet that between the Hunters, Red-Necks, 'Bangers and anybody else with a Gun and something to loose, it wouldn't be easy once it's known that Foreign Soldiers in Uniform are fair game without recourse of which I suspect they know this and plan accordingly.
Russia is trying to restore its former Glory (and for all the propaganda from both sides) they were a strong and resilient People best left to their own accords.
You might hate your neighbor, but actually talking to him will net you more than "fuck you" and walking away...haven't got to like him, but getting somewhat along has to be better than war, at least until it isn't, then you've got to totally exterminate them all.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[holdover]

What's totally fascinating is all the YouTube people have been giving far better news than actual news channels. The way we consume information has changed. No one really trusts the legacy media anymore. There was plenty of YouTube discussions occurring days before Israel started this campaign that Israel attacking seemed imminent. Nothing was reported on legacy media until it basically happened.

If that doesn't tell ya its controlled information, I dont know what does. I realized this when I was a young guy. Information is power, No way are they just gonna let journalists ruin carreers, plans, billions of dollars at stake , The highest levels of the press are complicit.

 

[holdover]

Looks like that iron dome is nothing of the sort.

 

[holdover]

"Quantity has a quality of its own" -Joey Stalin.

 

[CaseHardened]

I read a news report two or three hours ago that B2 Bombers, the only aircraft capable of delivering the Bunker Buster, are on their way to Guam.

Now I can't find it.

Is it true? Is it false?

Was it a leak that was deleted?

Has anyone else read or heard this?

 

[CaseHardened]

Found it:

MSN

What to know about the US B-2 bombers heading to Guam​

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I just read we bombed them.

 

[GOYABEAN]

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/21/us-strike-iran-nuclear-israel-trump

 

[C3D]

Yep trump dumped on em. Can't say they didn't ask for it.