What Are The Chances Of A Food Stamp Collapse In November?

[Cavalry]

Why not give them what they need for a few years to be successful in life and then recoup all of that and then some off taxes? Think of it as an investment.

There are of course exceptions but that demographic is generally stupid, lazy, mentally ill, and do not really want to better themselves. Its easier to take a handout, make endless bad decisions, have zero pride or class, and have nothing all while complaining how hard they have it. Have a stroll around the low income neighborhoods in your area. Why will there be garbage strewn around the houses? Why will the children be filthy and playing unsupervised in the street? Why are the residents so poor they cant do better but will sit on their porch drinking beer and smoking cigarettes talking about getting a new tattoo?
In NY you can already get a tuition free degree with very loose requirements. How many people on assistance take advantage of that program? I live in an impoverished area, but employers struggle daily to find people for entry level jobs. People just do not want to work or make their lives better.

 

[Saltwater60]

Wait, what? We're going to hand out free higher educations to certain people while the rest of us pay our own way? Um, no. Hard no. Stop feeding the squirrels.

You already are doing that. Look up excelsior program for college. Free if your household needs bone is $125,000 or below in NYS. You pay fees but that’s it. Many below this income get it for free federally. All I’m talking about doing is making it so they get what they get now, but for a much shorter time frame with a little bit of guidance. I’m actually talking about greater restrictions because I want to limit their free college/education choice to a marketable skill that will create an ROI. Then after that is done they can’t get free handouts anymore. So we’d have productive members of society instead of people sitting on assistance for decades that turn into generations. This would not be voluntary but a condition to receive free government benefits.
Go to college or learn a skill in a set timeframe or you go hungry on the streets. Right now we feed them and house them from conception to death and lay for everything in between. I can assure you my plan is cheaper and better for society than what’s happening now.

 

[Saltwater60]

There are of course exceptions but that demographic is generally stupid, lazy, mentally ill, and do not really want to better themselves. Its easier to take a handout, make endless bad decisions, have zero pride or class, and have nothing all while complaining how hard they have it. Have a stroll around the low income neighborhoods in your area. Why will there be garbage strewn around the houses? Why will the children be filthy and playing unsupervised in the street? Why are the residents so poor they cant do better but will sit on their porch drinking beer and smoking cigarettes talking about getting a new tattoo?
In NY you can already get a tuition free degree with very loose requirements. How many people on assistance take advantage of that program? I live in an impoverished area, but employers struggle daily to find people for entry level jobs. People just do not want to work or make their lives better.

Well that option would be off the table. You go for benefits and you get assessed to what will be a good fit for you. You say no your benefits are denied. You say yes and a plan is put in place. You get x amount of time to make it happen and get a job or the checks stop coming. Once people are gainfully employed we would see a massive ROI. I get some disagree with me and that’s fine. I also have no issue supporting truly disabled people medically or mentally. I’m not talking minor mental issues either. The current system is a complete failure by design. My plan at least has a chance of success.
The drug addict across the street from me with a masters degree and decades of teaching is going on government assistance for everything right now. This is wrong. He’s smart and educated. Drugs ruined his life by his choices. He should not get this and yet he will.

 

[spat]

There is a large difference between assisting someone who fell on hard times compared to a person who is just a leech with no drive to get back on their feet. A factory closure, your job getting eliminated, etc. can happen to anyone. I don't mind assistance for those people while they get things sorted out. I have a major issue with people who just want to leech off of everyone else and think they're owed other people supporting them and have zero motivation to improve their position.

There are a lot of things necessary for a society to function well that a government *cannot* provide.

Charity, when properly applied, can be very valuable for a society. But, it must be controlled to prevent abuse.

The *best* way for that to happen is a cultural aversion to using it. In an ideal situation it is freely available, and incredibly embarrassing to use.

Basically, some behavior can be shaped by laws, but some can't, and must be handled by social taboos. I think the destruction of some of the most critical taboos in our society over the last several decades is a very direct and successful attack engineered by our enemies.

 

[Catskillkid]

There are a lot of things necessary for a society to function well that a government *cannot* provide.

Charity, when properly applied, can be very valuable for a society. But, it must be controlled to prevent abuse.

The *best* way for that to happen is a cultural aversion to using it. In an ideal situation it is freely available, and incredibly embarrassing to use.

Basically, some behavior can be shaped by laws, but some can't, and must be handled by social taboos. I think the destruction of some of the most critical taboos in our society over the last several decades is a very direct and successful attack engineered by our enemies.

I firmly believe that we need to bring back shame to society.

Shame in accepting welfare.

Shame for doing drugs or being an alcoholic.

Shame for cheating on your spouse.

Shame for not working when you are otherwise able-bodied.

Shame for lying, cheating, stealing (applies to individuals and businesses).

Shame for greed (applies to individuals and businesses).

And most especially, Shame for politicians grifting the American people, violating their rights, and proverbially spitting on the flag and the Constitution.

 

[GOPerfect]

It will never stop. So why not make it short term and then make them employable to gain tax money back. The problem is people on benefits for life that suck off the system for no reason. Why not give them what they need for a few years to be successful in life and then recoup all of that and then some off taxes? Think of it as an investment.

because... Fuck them. That is why

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Get a fkn job.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

If the government is still shut down and food money isn't released, Nov. 5th is my prediction for when shit goes a little sideways.

 

[GOPerfect]

Someone/group in DC will have!

Bet!

 

[Bigfoot]

I can remember a time when people would be ashamed/embarrassed to be on welfare.
That was a long time ago though. Back when, instead of an EBT card, welfare recipients would be given food coupons that looked sort of like Monopoly money. Those food coupons must have stuck out like an embarrassing sore thumb, which was maybe a good thing. A reason for someone to get a job, get off of welfare, and not be embarrassed in the cashier line.



Nowadays, the EBT card is much more stealthy than the coupons. Not that it matters anymore, times have changed. Unlike years ago, I don't think most people are any longer embarrassed by being a welfare recipient.

While waiting in the cashier line, a woman ahead of me who was getting cashed out was tapping her EBT card on the conveyor belt area. It was almost like she was drawing attention to it. Obviously, no shame there.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I hope there will be much less governmemt subsidized demand for steak soon. If SNAP runs out, I should face less competition in the grocery store. Maybe much more competition in the grocery store parking lot though...

Know what might be cool? Cash only no reserve auctions at the butcher shop. No EBT allowed.

 

[Bigfoot]

If the SNAP benefits are not funded, the cities are going to get wrecked.
Then the hungry feral people will spread out to the neighboring suburbs.

A food stamp collapse could get interesting.

 

[Bigfoot]

"SNAP benefits are typically funded by the federal government at the start of each month, but a government shutdown has put November 2025 payments at risk."


So, if the SNAP benefits aren't funded, I'm guessing that shits going to hit the fan the 2nd week in November.

 

[Bigfoot]

It's 100% "Schumer's Shutdown"

But the Fake News Media is spinning it as.
"Trump's Shutdown"
Trump hates black and brown people. Literally Hitler! REEEEEEEEE

And the useful idiots will believe it. But the Free Shit Army usually doesn't vote Republican anyway. So this Food Stamp situation shouldn't hurt the Republicans.
The FSA is the voting base of the Democrats.

 

[Bigfoot]

When I went to school during the 1970s, there was no such thing as a school breakfast. Back then, parents or even the kids themselves made breakfast at home before going to school.

There was no such thing as lunch programs either. Parents sent their kids to school with a lunch made at home or money to purchase the school lunch, which didn't cost very much.


I think I might be straying off topic again, so I'll stop for now.

 

[livingston]

Federal Workers Line Up at Food Banks After Dem Whip Calls Them ‘Leverage’​

A Washington, DC-area food bank serving federal workers impacted by the government shutdown ran out of items on Friday morning while people were still waiting in line — one day after House Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-MA) called suffering families a “leverage” to use against Republicans.
A “massive line” of government employees and contractors gathered at a Capital Area Food Bank drive in northern Virginia to get much-needed groceries before the organization ran out of food “just over an hour into distribution,” PBS News’ Lisa Desjardins reported:
There are an estimated 700,000 federal workers across the U.S. who have been furloughed due to the shutdown, which is now on day 24. The Washington, DC area, including Virginia and Maryland, are home to about 20 percent of the federal workforce.

Federal Workers Line Up at Food Banks After Dem Whip Calls Them 'Leverage'

A Washington, DC-area food bank serving federal workers impacted by the government shutdown ran out of items on Friday morning.

www.breitbart.com

Judging by the cars ... Everyone makes plenty of money

 

[Cavalry]

I can remember a time when people would be ashamed/embarrassed to be on welfare.
That was a long time ago though. Back when, instead of an EBT card, welfare recipients would be given food coupons that looked sort of like Monopoly money. Those food coupons must have stuck out like an embarrassing sore thumb, which was maybe a good thing. A reason for someone to get a job, get off of welfare, and not be embarrassed in the cashier line.

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Nowadays, the EBT card is much more stealthy than the coupons. Not that it matters anymore, times have changed. Unlike years ago, I don't think most people are any longer embarrassed by being a welfare recipient.

While waiting in the cashier line, a woman ahead of me who was getting cashed out was tapping her EBT card on the conveyor belt area. It was almost like she was drawing attention to it. Obviously, no shame there.

Food stamps was a terrible system. There was no mechanism for transactions of less than a dollar so coins were given back to the person.

I worked at a grocery store as a kid. Every 1st like clockwork a 300lb woman with her 5 kids would come in to exploit the system. She would sit on a bench near the front desk and send the children out to shop. They each got a food stamp and would buy one packet of unsweetened kool-aid for $.07. They would get $.93 back in change, give it to mom and continue the cycle. Mom would buy scratch offs with the money while they ran wild in the store.

 

[Parzival]

Food stamps was a terrible system. There was no mechanism for transactions of less than a dollar so coins were given back to the person.

I worked at a grocery store as a kid. Every 1st like clockwork a 300lb woman with her 5 kids would come in to exploit the system. She would sit on a bench near the front desk and send the children out to shop. They each got a food stamp and would buy one packet of unsweetened kool-aid for $.07. They would get $.93 back in change, give it to mom and continue the cycle. Mom would buy scratch offs with the money while they ran wild in the store.

I would see it at Byrne Dairy with glass milk bottles. They’d buy the milk with the EBT card, dump the milk in the parking lot. Then return the glass bottle for the deposit, which couldn’t go back on their EBT card so it was given in cash.

Food stamps should be more like WIC checks used to be. List out what you can get…milk, bread, eggs, meat, beans, rice, etc and how many of each.

It should not be free money to buy whatever they want. Supplemental! Not the whole grocery bill.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

The most recent nonsense I have seen are people buying cases of small plastic bottles of water; popping the tops off and dumping the entire cases over to drain the water out; and then going back inside to claim the 5 cent deposits per bottle…

Down here they could make more money donating plasma at CSL Plasma ($500+ a month, recurring), but that is likely either too much work for them, or given their suspect medical history they may not qualify to sell their plasma…

 

[CaseHardened]

Of course the Media is not mentioning the real issue is the Communist Democrats are demanding FREE HEALTH CARE for criminal illegals.

 

[GOPerfect]

If the SNAP benefits are not funded, the cities are going to get wrecked.
Then the hungry feral people will spread out to the neighboring suburbs.

A food stamp collapse could get interesting.

Kind of excited to see it.

Nope, no sar...

 

[Keyzard]

Federal Workers Line Up at Food Banks After Dem Whip Calls Them ‘Leverage’​

A Washington, DC-area food bank serving federal workers impacted by the government shutdown ran out of items on Friday morning while people were still waiting in line — one day after House Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-MA) called suffering families a “leverage” to use against Republicans.
A “massive line” of government employees and contractors gathered at a Capital Area Food Bank drive in northern Virginia to get much-needed groceries before the organization ran out of food “just over an hour into distribution,” PBS News’ Lisa Desjardins reported:
There are an estimated 700,000 federal workers across the U.S. who have been furloughed due to the shutdown, which is now on day 24. The Washington, DC area, including Virginia and Maryland, are home to about 20 percent of the federal workforce.

Federal Workers Line Up at Food Banks After Dem Whip Calls Them 'Leverage'

A Washington, DC-area food bank serving federal workers impacted by the government shutdown ran out of items on Friday morning.

www.breitbart.com

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Judging by the cars ... Everyone makes plenty of money

I just don't understand. During the dotcom bust in the 90's I was out of work for almost a year. We survived on our small savings and then credit cards the entire time. Yeah, I got unemployment, but it wasn't much, and I had to pony up for Cobra (we had 3 children to cover). After I finally found a job we spent years paying those cards down. I never went to a food bank or applied for any social services.

 

[Robin]

If the SNAP benefits are not funded, the cities are going to get wrecked.
Then the hungry feral people will spread out to the neighboring suburbs.

A food stamp collapse could get interesting.

Entertaining is more like it, hell, better than watching all these rigged pro sports games!!!!!
Lead in for the news segment.
Robin

 

[OwnTheRide]

Would need to take ID.

Otherwise, that stuff would be getting palletized and shipped overseas on the taxpayer dime.

I think limiting the per-person carry would prevent that. Say, one bag of potatoes, one bag of rice, etc. Enough to last weeks or a month, even, but not enough to make collecting and shipping worth the cost.

 

[OwnTheRide]

Somebody worked their ass off to produce that food. Why should anyone get it for free?

Maybe the hungry people can work out a deal with the farmer to help harvest the food in exchange for a share of the harvest? You know, kind of like a job.

I hear you on this, and agree. I'm being pragmatic... the reality is, it's politically impossible to get rid of welfare. It's just not going to happen. But we might be able to reduce the cost, fraud, appeal, and nutritional issues. That's worth something... billions, in fact.

 

[Bigfoot]

If SNAP is not funded, even temporarily, I predict mayhem in the population centers.

In the "big blue cities," the mayhem will probably start on day one. Not so much when the cupboards and fridge are empty. But on day one, just because of you know, the thing.

The Free Shit Army is everywhere. I know of some here in the rural area where I live.
But the numbers are low enough that it won't be an issue.

But by far the largest numbers of the FSA are in the blue cities, Democrat controlled cities.
Those cities will burn. I'm going to be popping popcorn and watching videos of pissed off FSA losers burning their very own neighborhoods down, again. Doh! lol

I've already been there and done that, but it's been a little while since the last time.
I'm ready for some more entertainment and WTF moments that include facepalms, shrugging shoulders, and that sort of stuff. lol

 

[Bigfoot]

Democrat politicians who are in charge of things are playing a game of chicken with President Trump and his administration.

I do not see this going well for the Democrat voting base, aka, the Free Shit Army.

 

[GOPerfect]

If SNAP is not funded, even temporarily, I predict mayhem in the population centers.

In the "big blue cities," the mayhem will probably start on day one. Not so much when the cupboards and fridge are empty. But on day one, just because of you know, the thing.

The Free Shit Army is everywhere. I know of some here in the rural area where I live.
But the numbers are low enough that it won't be an issue.

But by far the largest numbers of the FSA are in the blue cities, Democrat controlled cities.
Those cities will burn. I'm going to be popping popcorn and watching videos of pissed off FSA losers burning their very own neighborhoods down, again. Doh! lol

I've already been there and done that, but it's been a little while since the last time.
I'm ready for some more entertainment and WTF moments that include facepalms, shrugging shoulders, and that sort of stuff. lol

We have a lot of poor here. Dirt poor, good folk.

I do not foresee much looting or stealing from the food stores.

Our demographics do not fit that mold.

Sure, I am positive that some will steal, but not too many.

 

[spat]

I think limiting the per-person carry would prevent that. Say, one bag of potatoes, one bag of rice, etc. Enough to last weeks or a month, even, but not enough to make collecting and shipping worth the cost.

Nah, someone would pay way below market value for the stuff, and some people would make a job out of collecting it like morons.

Basically how "professional shoplifters" operate now.

 

[Bigfoot]

We have a lot of poor here. Dirt poor, good folk.

I do not foresee much looting or stealing from the food stores.

Our demographics do not fit that mold.

Sure, I am positive that some will steal, but not too many.

Same thing here in this part of Western New York where I live.

I live where I do for a reason, that didn't happen by accident.

35 years ago, when I moved from the rural swamps of South Carolina to Western New York, I was looking to buy a property that would help in my transition and my way of life as I knew it. So I bought a property that was surrounded by swamps.

#1. No public sidewalks (human highways) anywhere nearby.
#2. No bus routes anywhere nearby.
#3. Everyone here looks like me if you catch my drift, well, except for the Indians, but the tribe that I live next to are good people for the most part.
#4. Private well, municipal water just seems like a really bad idea to me. YMMV
#5. Rednecks, Swamp People, Indians, Dogs and Backhoes. Woo Hoo!

One of the biggest differences here in these swamps in WNY, other than wintertime and Albany.
Is the lack of the occasional hurricane, venomous snakes, and alligators. As strange as it may sound, I miss the snakes. But it's nice not having to deal with the hurricanes and gators.

But if somebody has to live in New York State, where I'm at is the place to be. IMHO