Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
This may not be popular, but the way I see it. Our country is a mess, so much so, it's no longer about picking right or wrong. It's about picking a side. I know what side I'm on.
Ice agents shoot a women trying to run them over in Minneapolis
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spat
.950 JDJ
She needed to not leave that street without the fancy bracelets for sure.
But shooting through the windshield at that moment was not a bright idea for the reasons I outlined above. It was legally justified, but still not a good idea. Just because the law says you *can* shoot, doesn't mean it's a good idea.
They had lots of LE present. Block the car and arrest her. Way better for everyone. That officer is going to have a rough time for quite a while now when he could have just stepped aside.
It's also unlikely if she *had* left the street that she was going to drive like that in public. Her target was the ICE officers, not normal citizens. I don't think she was even trying to leave the street.
If she had, you have her plate, just show up at her house that night and arrest her there.
If she did drive away and then recklessly ran over a kid, then the same thing happens that happens when anyone else recklessly drives over a kid. The whole line of reasoning is asinine.
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
The St. George Floyd riots.
Tampons in boys' bathrooms.
The Catholic School mass shooting.
The assassination of Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.
Somali fraud involving billions of dollars.
Sacrificing one's life for illegal criminal aliens.
Tim Walz and AG Keith Ellison.
WTF is going on in Minnesota?
Tampons in boys' bathrooms.
The Catholic School mass shooting.
The assassination of Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.
Somali fraud involving billions of dollars.
Sacrificing one's life for illegal criminal aliens.
Tim Walz and AG Keith Ellison.
WTF is going on in Minnesota?
What do we know about her?
I had read that she and her wife lived in Colorado, and that they came to MN to protest ICE actions.
Now someone on Farcebook is claiming she lived on the street where she died. Others claim she lived in Kansas City. One person said a now removed video showed the SUV had Missouri plates. Many state she was a paid agitator.
And, of course, the continuous statements from and leftist "news" claiming that ICE doesn't have authority to arrest American Citizens, that their actions are illegal and un-Constitutional even when they DO go after illegals, that they are all recent hires with only 2-3 weeks of training, etc.
The media is whipping this up into a frenzy. More officers will be put in harms way because of this.
It's almost like they WANT a civil war.
Do they realize what can happen when the people who own the guns and train with the guns regularly are pushed into responding to violent action against their will?
spat
.950 JDJ
Oh, oh, you mean "she crossed state lines" for this ?
I heard somewhere that makes a huge difference. We should bring it up in any discussion about the issue.
spat
.950 JDJ
Even if they weren't leftist shit weasels running the news rooms, they would all be salivating at the thought of reporting on a civil war.
All part of the game for control of the US.
We have the right to protest.
We do not have the right to just make up our minds to interfere in lawful governmental functions unless you are starting a revolution; which we have that right. With that right comes the potential for loss of everything including your life.
So are we talking revolution or brain dead fools being used by the nwo.
We have the right to protest.
We do not have the right to just make up our minds to interfere in lawful governmental functions unless you are starting a revolution; which we have that right. With that right comes the potential for loss of everything including your life.
So are we talking revolution or brain dead fools being used by the nwo.
spat
.950 JDJ
We have the right to the means of revolution, not to actually start one.
If you're planning on starting one, you'd better win, so you can write the new rules that allowed that. Otherwise, expect to die.
The founding fathers understood that, anyone else contemplating it should as well.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Minn. mayor is blaming the cop and saying it was reckless and a bad shoot. I’m not surprised and they will use this to encourage more terrorism and lawlessness. Yes I said terrorism on purpose. Look what the left has been doing, the mass shootings, trying to kill Trump, shooting Kirk, among other things, all terrorism.
Minneapolis mayor says ICE officer’s killing of a motorist was ‘reckless’ and wasn’t self-defense
A federal agent shot and killed a Minneapolis motorist when she allegedly tried to run over law enforcement officers during an immigration crackdown in the city, authorities said Wednesday.
www.wane.com
The logical end of progressive politics.
Bigfoot
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96coal449
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Hugs and kisses.
96coal449
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spat
.950 JDJ
I see it different, to me it’s no different than if she was pointing a gun at the cop. He wouldn’t have just jumped out of the way.
A deadly weapon is a deadly weapon, she showed no regard for human life and needed to be stopped.
For an LEO in his position it’s a “must” shoot.
Just my opinion though, take that for what it’s worth haha.
96coal449
.308 Win
This was an attempt by the FEDS at keeping the peace.
The demented minded individual, did not want to be peaceful.
If she had moved along, and/or not have even been in the midst of a deportation raid, she could be alive to wave the rainbow at a future protest.
Absolutely FAFO.
The demented minded individual, did not want to be peaceful.
If she had moved along, and/or not have even been in the midst of a deportation raid, she could be alive to wave the rainbow at a future protest.
Absolutely FAFO.
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Modean
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At the end of the day, it comes down to a simple truth. Inserting yourself into a law enforcement operation is always a bad idea, and always has the potential to end badly.
96coal449
.308 Win
Interference is unlawful and unconstitutional.
An arrest would have been justified.
spat
.950 JDJ
If the car had driven over him after the shot, and the delay to take the shot is what prevented him from dodging out of the way, I bet he'd feel like a dumb ass with his 6 broken ribs and 2 broken legs.
If a 3000lb car is coming at me, my main thought is "I better not still be here when it arrives".
The gun won't stop the car.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Here is a good video at about 1:15-1:10 that shows the ice agent being pushed by the car. The angle beforehand shows shows the ice agent limping but the push is blocked by the other agent.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Watching the live protests right now. Not a single local LEO in sight. Fuck the local LEO's that wont back up the feds. I saw them lock up one of the shitweasels, I hope they him or her in the pen with the illegals, see how they feel about deportations after they are raped by them
spat
.950 JDJ
They should actually prioritize the arrests for interference over the deportations.
96coal449
.308 Win
I agree with you on most you post. Not here though.
This would have been a justified arrest. The ICE agent in front of the vehicle may have not tried to stop the vehicle from assault, but simply to aid in detainment.
96coal449
.308 Win
That is the hurdle here. Local LEO should be in assistance. The blue sanctuaries are preventing this.
Again. FAFO
spat
.950 JDJ
She passed the bar for a justified arrest a long time before that. They were in the process of dragging her out and cuffing her when this all started.
A guy standing in front of a vehicle is not a reasonable way to stop the car. That's just a great way to get injured.
You stop vehicles with other vehicles, not with meat shields.
Look no further than the last time , chop zones, anarchy, do we want America back to the golden streets or keep falling into a 3rd world shit hole.
I back government/cops only so far as they are just people and people can be just like everyone good or bad.
ICE is doing the job they get paid for, the police should be helping and arresting any one, politician, that interfere with law doing the job they are supposed to do.
Back to the main topic, ICE has been put in this situation time after time and are nervous yet complacent at the same time. They (our government) need to stop allowing "protesters" to control the scene; get back on the sidewalk and out of the street "protesters" or pay the consequences.
I back government/cops only so far as they are just people and people can be just like everyone good or bad.
ICE is doing the job they get paid for, the police should be helping and arresting any one, politician, that interfere with law doing the job they are supposed to do.
Back to the main topic, ICE has been put in this situation time after time and are nervous yet complacent at the same time. They (our government) need to stop allowing "protesters" to control the scene; get back on the sidewalk and out of the street "protesters" or pay the consequences.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The cops that are listening to the chiefs and the mayor, standi.g down, are cowards!
byron
.308 Win
watched a few more videos have to change my mind preventable but justified