Violence in Mexico after the death of cartel leader

[tirwin1]

Mexico has a bit of a problem on its hands. In retaliation for the death of a cartel leader, the cartel has gone to war with the Mexican government. The images and video are scary. I never had the desire to travel to mexico and I sure as hell am not going now.

Violence in Mexico Continues in Aftermath of Cartel Leader El Mencho Killed - The Last Refuge

The surprise operation to kill Nemesio ‘El Mencho’ Oseguera Cervantes, leader of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, caught everyone off-guard. According to most media reports, El Mencho’ was killed in a Mexican military operation supported and backed by U.S. intelligence. His death has now...

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Hopefully we won't get dragged into this mess.

 

[RomanRider]

Probably 10 years or so ago, one of my engineers was working at a Corning plant in Reynosa to commission some new equipment that we sold them. He was staying at a hotel on the US side and would take a bus across the border to the plant every day. One of the days he was there, the plant folks he was working with came to him and told him to go now and get on the bus. He grabbed his laptop and most of his tools and got to the bus for a hasty getaway of some kind of pending cartel violence or possible kidnapping, etc. He got out safely and came home, and we never returned to finish starting up that equipment. Things I think have been getting worse steadily since then.

I went on a business trip to MX once and had no trouble, but no way I'd ever consider going there again.

 

[SonOfSun]

Probably 10 years or so ago, one of my engineers was working at a Corning plant in Reynosa to commission some new equipment that we sold them. He was staying at a hotel on the US side and would take a bus across the border to the plant every day. One of the days he was there, the plant folks he was working with came to him and told him to go now and get on the bus. He grabbed his laptop and most of his tools and got to the bus for a hasty getaway of some kind of pending cartel violence or possible kidnapping, etc. He got out safely and came home, and we never returned to finish starting up that equipment. Things I think have been getting worse steadily since then.

I went on a business trip to MX once and had no trouble, but no way I'd ever consider going there again.

Reynosa is super sketchy. Has been for a long time. I was on a team opening some new facilities in McAllen TX for the company I worked for at the time about 8 years ago. McAllen is directly adjacent to Reynosa. Even back then it was someplace you didn't really want to go to as an American.

It was a popular location for medical procedures like dentistry. You cross the border and what would cost you thousands here would cost a few hundred there. At the time I was there, there was a "truce" between the Mexican feds and the cartels. The cartels stayed away from the area directly by the border, which was where all the medical stuff was located. If you went beyond that the cartels controlled it.

 

[GOPerfect]

I am watching all things Mexico closely. Things that are unfolding is quite entertaining, to say the least.

The cartels look impressive. No, this does not mean I am on their side, just that they look impressive.

 

[tgenec86]

So this is the AI summary anyone can look up in Google:
President Sheinbaum:

• Opposition to Unilateral Action: Sheinbaum has repeatedly rejected U.S. military intervention or unilateral strikes on Mexican soil, citing that such actions violate Mexican sovereignty and the nation's constitution.
• Legal Process vs. "War": She has criticized the "war on drugs" model—often associated with the 2006–2012 era in Mexico—for enabling extrajudicial killings and bypassing due process. She advocates for intelligence-led, coordinated law enforcement that operates within the bounds of domestic and international law.

She can frame it any way she wants, but when Cartels have so much power that they are controlling vast amount of land and have literal armies of people recruited from the military, able to launch sophisticated and well armed attacks - her fantasy of letting law enforcement handle this is naive and juvenile. Or maybe she "doth protest overmuch" because she's bought lock, stock, and soul - by the cartels who really control a majority of Mexico. What idiot cannot see that the armed cartel soldier firing on the police and army isn't going to submit to an arrest?

 

[Catskillkid]

Would not want to be a gringo south of the border these days that's for sure.

The cartels have far too much money and far too much power. I think it's pretty clear they're the ones who really are running the country. If it stays on Mexico's side of the border it's their problem as far as I'm concerned. If it spills over then we unleash fury upon them.

 

[SonOfSun]

Would not want to be a gringo south of the border these days that's for sure.

The cartels have far too much money and far too much power. I think it's pretty clear they're the ones who really are running the country. If it stays on Mexico's side of the border it's their problem as far as I'm concerned. If it spills over then we unleash fury upon them.

The US has a vested interest in this. Cartel problems do spill over.

 

[Plater1]

So, as i understand it Canadians are boycotting the USA and they now vacation in Mexico and Cuba instead of Miami and Las Vegas.

 

[Bigfoot]

Meh, I don't know the Canadian people as a whole well enough to ah fuck it, fuck Canada and their pretending to be like they're fucking Europe. But at the same time, they're frickin' located in North America... Doh!

I'll just say, at least the Canadians aren't turd worlders per say and they don't have cartels. I'm glad I'm here near the Canadian border, that's sure is better than being close to the Mexican border for reasons.

 

[Bigfoot]

I think that before the Orange Man Good is finished with his term as President. He's going to wreck the Mexican cartels. It's just a matter of when, the cartels just aren't at the very top of the priority list, for now anyway.

There's always the FAFO Trump factor in play.

Ask Nicolás Maduro about that sort of thing. lol

 

[fresch]

The demonrats / rinos are still trying to stop him and will go even harder if re-elected.
The money, follow the money.
They are putting laws in to follow you.

 

[FP1201]

So, as i understand it Canadians are boycotting the USA and they now vacation in Mexico and Cuba instead of Miami and Las Vegas.

GOOD! They're a fucking pain in the ass, they're cheap, and their Frog Pelts are worth less and Peso's.

 

[Beerman]

Too bad about the hullabaloo in Mexico. I love their food. Well, the American version of their food. I’m not much for pig’s feet or slimy skin on chicken, and I just don’t understand the cheese covered corn cob on a stick that they eat like ice cream cones. Tequila and mezcal aren’t really very good, either, honestly. The Mexxes did beat down the French once, so I’ll give ‘em that. In fairness, though, who *hasn’t* given the agressively surrender prone frogs a good drubbing? Yeah, I love Mexican food. Good stuff.

 

[FP1201]

I think that before the Orange Man Good is finished with his term as President. He's going to wreck the Mexican cartels. It's just a matter of when, the cartels just aren't at the very top of the priority list, for now anyway.

There's always the FAFO Trump factor in play.

Ask Nicolás Maduro about that sort of thing. lol

Let 'em fight it out now while intelligence watches and identifies who's who, it'll make it much easier to identify the culprits later on...same as Iraq, and Afghanistan as they tend to hide behind women and children, blending in until they pull out a rifle.

 

[Zerex]

1.6 million US ex pats, now live in Mexico.

Trump has hurt all the Cartels and the USA- BLM/ANTIFA drug using community, very hard.

Bombing the Cartel HQ's under Mexican approval, is likely.
When you take billions away from El Chapo types...........

 

[tirwin1]

1.6 million US ex pats, now live in Mexico.

If things get really "sporty" I think those people will regret their choices. Best case they get caught in a crossfire between the cartels and the government. Worst case they are kidnapped and killed in retaliation because they are US citizens.

Perhaps they found some quiet little town to retire to. I don't think any area is safe once the shit really starts flying.

 

[FP1201]

If things get really "sporty" I think those people will regret their choices. Best case they get caught in a crossfire between the cartels and the government. Worst case they are kidnapped and killed in retaliation because they are US citizens.

Perhaps they found some quiet little town to retire to. I don't think any area is safe once the shit really starts flying.

Kind of my point when folks want an (un) Civil War they should realize that NO ONE is "safe" and those engaged will be looking for specific targets of opportunity.

 

[holdover]

A side note is that the US and the east have been in a trade war over precious metals . the Chinese have been fucking the crooked western banks royally. the COMEX in NY is in serious trouble especially in the silver markets . they dont have enough bullion to cover the contracts if they stand for delivery of physical metal . normally most contracts are settled in cash , but the Chinese have been standing for delivery shrinking the amount of deliverable metal every month . NY has had a difficult time in sourcing the metal since there has also been a yearly deficit in silver for 6 years which means the supply cant meet the demand. the market is tight and the comex is short .

So the Chinese recently went to Mexico and obtained contracts with silver miners to buy every ounce they can produce . fucking the banks on wall st . And JP Morgan doesn't liked to get fucked by anybody, but Mrs Morgan.

So the thought came to my pointy head that this shit could be catastrophic to wall st if they have to default so they call in the top trouble makers the CIA , and quickly stir up shit in mexico by killing off the cartel leader knowing its going to get crazy , by giving aid to either side that promises to get those pesky contracts cancelled saving the day for wall st .

dont know just spitballing off of what Ive seen

 

[FP1201]

A side note is that the US and the east have been in a trade war over precious metals . the Chinese have been fucking the crooked western banks royally. the COMEX in NY is in serious trouble especially in the silver markets . they dont have enough bullion to cover the contracts if they stand for delivery of physical metal . normally most contracts are settled in cash , but the Chinese have been standing for delivery shrinking the amount of deliverable metal every month . NY has had a difficult time in sourcing the metal since there has also been a yearly deficit in silver for 6 years which means the supply cant meet the demand. the market is tight and the comex is short .

So the Chinese recently went to Mexico and obtained contracts with silver miners to buy every ounce they can produce . fucking the banks on wall st . And JP Morgan doesn't liked to get fucked by anybody, but Mrs Morgan.

So the thought came to my pointy head that this shit could be catastrophic to wall st if they have to default so they call in the top trouble makers the CIA , and quickly stir up shit in mexico by killing off the cartel leader knowing its going to get crazy , by giving aid to either side that promises to get those pesky contracts cancelled saving the day for wall st .

dont know just spitballing off of what Ive seen

I said not to be surprised if the Silver Mines are Nationalized (Seized buy the Government) after all they are the highest Silver producing Country even though they only have a rather small resource...Cartels could seize them too, they seem better equipped and disciplined than the federalies.