Man pulls a gun inside NYS bar over a tip dispute, charged with having a gun in a sensitive location

[Saltwater60]

This is just pure stupidity on this moron. However, he is being charged with having a gun in a sensitive location.
Thanks Thughes, other link wasn’t working.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-pulling-gun-at-bar-bill-in-east-aurora/

 

[thughes]

I don't want people like this representing me as a "lawful gun owner".

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-pulling-gun-at-bar-bill-in-east-aurora/

 

[dsdmmat]

They might drop the sensitive location charge in order to protect it from being overturned on appeal as unconstitutional.

 

[Celt]

Moron

 

[Saltwater60]

They might drop the sensitive location charge in order to protect it from being overturned on appeal as unconstitutional.

They have declined to charge that in the past. However, they seemed to railroad the guy at the fair last year about it. That was posted here, but that was his only charge too. Not sure what happens with that.
Can’t find an update so…

Handgun falls out of man's pocket while he's on ride at Boonville-Oneida County Fair

The Oneida County Sheriff's Office said a man was arrested after their weapon fell out of their pocket on a fair ride.

cnycentral.com

 

[VietnamEraVet]

This is just pure stupidity on this moron. However, he is being charged with having a gun in a sensitive location.
Thanks Thughes, other link wasn’t working.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-pulling-gun-at-bar-bill-in-east-aurora/

I always enjoyed the Bar Bill,- great Beef on Weck, good wings, cold beer and a good atmosphere. Used to stop in there at the end of a weekend motorcycle ride.

As Bugs Bunny would say about this guy: What a maroon!

 

[FP1201]

They have declined to charge that in the past. However, they seemed to railroad the guy at the fair last year about it. That was posted here, but that was his only charge too. Not sure what happens with that.
Can’t find an update so…

Handgun falls out of man's pocket while he's on ride at Boonville-Oneida County Fair

The Oneida County Sheriff's Office said a man was arrested after their weapon fell out of their pocket on a fair ride.

cnycentral.com

Haven't seen or heard anything since the News story, given the location, culture, and community it may well have been dropped or plea bargained to something less damning...I certainly hope so.

 

[Saltwater60]

I always enjoyed the Bar Bill,- great Beef on Weck, good wings, cold beer and a good atmosphere. Used to stop in there at the end of a weekend motorcycle ride.

As Bugs Bunny would say about this guy: What a maroon!

They do have good food. The roast beef is fantastic. I’m not a huge fan of their wing sauce because it is on the sweet side for me. I don’t mind the fingers so much but I prefer their other food. It has become very busy and hard to get a seat there. They don’t do reservations either.

 

[Cooolone]

Ummmmmm... No, not "JUST" charged with sensitive location. That's a bit misleading!

He was charged with the following:

• second-degree menacing
• prohibited use of a weapon
• second-degree criminal possession of a weapon
• criminal possession of a firearm in a sensitive location
• second-degree reckless endangerment

This is like saying those people who get locked up because they had a firearm, but ignoring the 10lbs of heroin in the trunk!

Stupid ass didn't even have the firearm on him, he left and returned with it... For a fuckin TIP? His brain is obviously fucked and I'm sure his service sucked, reflected in the $1!

Fuck him, and his stupid ass, hope he gets the book thrown at him as an example! Moron! I've got no tolerance for stupidity...

 

[Zerex]

His gun rights are now seriously compromised. No more 4473 NICS for him............will be added to the 66 million + who today cannot pass NICS.


Some Country Jail time is likely.

His short fuse, and vigilante outrage at the tip, means he is a clear and present danger to anyone at anytime.

 

[Saltwater60]

Ummmmmm... No, not "JUST" charged with sensitive location. That's a bit misleading!

He was charged with the following:

• second-degree menacing
• prohibited use of a weapon
• second-degree criminal possession of a weapon
• criminal possession of a firearm in a sensitive location
• second-degree reckless endangerment

This is like saying those people who get locked up because they had a firearm, but ignoring the 10lbs of heroin in the trunk!

Stupid ass didn't even have the firearm on him, he left and returned with it... For a fuckin TIP? His brain is obviously fucked and I'm sure his service sucked, reflected in the $1!

Fuck him, and his stupid ass, hope he gets the book thrown at him as an example! Moron! I've got no tolerance for stupidity...

Go back and reread the post. That was in reference to a guy last year where his gun fell out of his pocket on a ride at the fair. That was the only charge that person had. That post was not in reference to the BarBill guy and that’s why there was an additional link.

 

[GOPerfect]

Good.

• second-degree menacing
• prohibited use of a weapon
• second-degree criminal possession of a weapon
• criminal possession of a firearm in a sensitive location
• second-degree reckless endangerment

 

[Keyzard]

Good.

• second-degree menacing
• prohibited use of a weapon
• second-degree criminal possession of a weapon
• criminal possession of a firearm in a sensitive location
• second-degree reckless endangerment

I'm OK with all of that except for the "sensitive location" bullshit. Unless someone has a way to guarantee my safety, there should be no way to deny me the right to protect myself and my family. Hard stop.

I have a friend who is opening for a national act at the Ballroom Theater in a few months. I bought a ticket to support him and his band, but based on the fact that I won't be able to carry there (and there is no way I'm locking up a pistol in my vehicle in that area) I sadly won't be attending.

 

[livingston]

We all have met that person that should never have any access to a firearm .... ...Some people never mature... This is one such person ...

 

[MothMan]

We all have met that person that should never have any access to a firearm .... ...Some people never mature... This is one such person ...

Well said 4859.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

We all have met that person that should never have any access to a firearm .... ...Some people never mature... This is one such person ...

I am still wondering what exactly went down. Someone left a $1 tip. Who? And then he left in a huff and came back with a gun to threaten one or more people? Or did he leave a $1 tip to protest poor service, and then when someone called him out over it, did he go get his gun and come back and threaten people? The article is poorly written. WTF?

It makes no sense to me. If someone left a $1 tip, you would think they would have left post haste? And why was he sticking his nose into the situation in the first place If he wasn’t the one who left a $1 tip? Or perhaps he was trying to act like some big shot in front of a waitress he was pursuing?

Weird! Just another example of why I carry, - because you never know what shit can go down unexpectedly.

One thing is for certain: he has no business being anywhere around firearms.

And isn’t the sensitive places BS going before SCOTUS (from another state?). All of that shit needs to be thrown out.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm OK with all of that except for the "sensitive location" bullshit. Unless someone has a way to guarantee my safety, there should be no way to deny me the right to protect myself and my family. Hard stop.

I have a friend who is opening for a national act at the Ballroom Theater in a few months. I bought a ticket to support him and his band, but based on the fact that I won't be able to carry there (and there is no way I'm locking up a pistol in my vehicle in that area) I sadly won't be attending.

I almost never go to a place if I cannot be armed.

I do not like that criminal charge either

 

[Phazer]

This is just pure stupidity on this moron. However, he is being charged with having a gun in a sensitive location.
Thanks Thughes, other link wasn’t working.

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-pulling-gun-at-bar-bill-in-east-aurora/

W.....


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F???????


Ummm.... that is absolutely NOT why WE carry defensive firearms.

 

[Saltwater60]

I am still wondering what exactly went down. Someone left a $1 tip. Who? And then he left in a huff and came back with a gun to threaten one or more people? Or did he leave a $1 tip to protest poor service, and then when someone called him out over it, did he go get his gun and come back and threaten people? The article is poorly written. WTF?

It makes no sense to me. If someone left a $1 tip, you would think they would have left post haste? And why was he sticking his nose into the situation in the first place If he wasn’t the one who left a $1 tip? Or perhaps he was trying to act like some big shot in front of a waitress he was pursuing?

Weird! Just another example of why I carry, - because you never know what shit can go down unexpectedly.

One thing is for certain: he has no business being anywhere around firearms.

And isn’t the sensitive places BS going before SCOTUS (from another state?). All of that shit needs to be thrown out.

I had the same thought. The article indicates it wasn’t his tip and it was someone else’s. I’m confused as well.

 

[Phazer]

I had the same thought. The article indicates it wasn’t his tip and it was someone else’s. I’m confused as well.

You want specific details from a modern news report? Wow, you've got high expectations.

 

[Saltwater60]

You want specific details from a modern news report? Wow, you've got high expectations.

Funny I just found this article that has much more details.
To break it down another patron left a dollar. This guy got pissed and went to get a gun. Pointed it at the low tipper and threatened to shoot people and the dude balls off. He left and was arrested.

West Seneca man arrested after allegedly pulling gun over $1 tip at Bar-Bill Tavern

Police say the suspect allegedly pulled a gun after seeing another customer leave a $1 tip.

www.wgrz.com

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Funny I just found this article that has much more details.
To break it down another patron left a dollar. This guy got pissed and went to get a gun. Pointed it at the low tipper and threatened to shoot people and the dude balls off. He left and was arrested.

West Seneca man arrested after allegedly pulling gun over $1 tip at Bar-Bill Tavern

Police say the suspect allegedly pulled a gun after seeing another customer leave a $1 tip.

www.wgrz.com

Sounds like he is a mental case who also needed to mind his own business.

 

[Cooolone]

Oh come on...

The "sensitive location" bullshit is just sprinkles on an ice cream cone!

It isn't a situation whereas the miscreant was "printing" and someone noticed and called the police. Or that a LEO seen it and acted, etc.

Just like when people bitch about proper arrests when the fucker has 10lbs of heroin in a trunk, but want to bitch how their Rights were Infringed because the gun charges got added on, etc., etc., etc!

Fucking assholes are just that, and this guy was clearly a fucking asshole! I say pile on all the charges that even remotely touch the radar screen!

Tips are voluntary, don't like my tip? Then kiss my fucking ass! Do better! Learn how to serve and sucker up for better tips! Nothing is for free!

Anyways...

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I'm not a fan of any anti gun laws/arrests in NY because I feel it's part of subconsciously conditioning people that only criminals in NY have guns. And if someone has a gun in public it's cause for alarm and probably illegal.

With that being said this guy sounds like a complete tool and I do not want him representing NY gun owners in anyway.

 

[spat]

We all have met that person that should never have any access to a firearm .... ...Some people never mature... This is one such person ...

Those people should be locked up.

Because telling them "no guns for you" is useless.