What to do when there are no Confederates ?

[tapper3]

Some frustrated SJW in Detroit searched the city and could find nary a single Confederate statue to deface.

Undeterred they eventually found another famous white supremacist to protest....................

Dozens demonstrate in Detroit against white supremacy, Christopher Columbus

 

[Doc8404]

Thanks for posting. No. That's sarcasm. I've been working on my blood pressure and you're not helping.

I hate to say it but I wish trump would just pull all statues and put them in a museum. Watching these get destroyed is unbelievable.

 

[MothMan]

This will fall under liberal progressive BLM Antifa scrutiny soon. A beautiful 400 year old tree that the "Southern" movement was born under: i.e. bigotry hatred racism slavery.

Bluffton, S.C., Secession Tree

Perhaps the Sierra Club will be able to save it.

Don't tell anyone that I had my picture taken under its magnificent bows!!

 

[4excal]

Well at least this time they chose a bumbling fool from History, that complete lies are surrounded by what we were taught. Not only did he never even touch the mainland of America but all he did was slaughter,spread disease and plunder the Caribbean. Ahhh my fellow eye-talion.

 

[meketrefe]

...those radical Buddhists ...

 

[Frankly]

Well at least this time they chose a bumbling fool from History, that complete lies are surrounded by what we were taught. Not only did he never even touch the mainland of America but all he did was slaughter,spread disease and plunder the Caribbean. Ahhh my fellow eye-talion.

It's hard to defend Columbus's leadership but it's unlikely any other European explorer of that time would have behaved much different or produced a better outcome. It was a brutal time.

I prefer to think of Columbus as a brave man who started the age of exploration, enlightenment, and modernity. I'm glad he got here so that eventually we could get here. That's why I'll celebrate him even if the ungrateful snowflakes disparage him.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Pleasantville (film) - Wikipedia

 

[stuck in ny]

Columbus day was just a made up joke holiday created by Old Italian-Americans who wanted an ethnic holiday comparable to St. Patrick's Day.

 

[tirwin1]

What will they do? Don't worry about that. There will always be another problem to correct. The author of an article in the Atlantic magazine essentially said that white people could never repay the debt owed to black people. With that mindset there will always be another outrage of the month that requires fixing through ever more drastic means. Expect the reparations argument to be revived with a vengeance in the future.

I never thought about confederate monuments until last week. I can understand how some (not all) could be offensive based upon their original purpose. I could see how some deserve to be removed. But there is no doubt this is a slippery slope argument. If the more offensive ones need to go, what about statues of Washington and Jefferson - both slaveowners? I am sure if we apply 21st century morals to 18th and 19th century people there would be very few who would withstand scrutiny. At some point we need to confront and defy these left wing a-holes and tell them no.

 

[Catskillkid]

What will they do? Don't worry about that. There will always be another problem to correct. The author of an article in the Atlantic magazine essentially said that white people could never repay the debt owed to black people. With that mindset there will always be another outrage of the month that requires fixing through ever more drastic means. Expect the reparations argument to be revived with a vengeance in the future.

I never thought about confederate monuments until last week. I can understand how some (not all) could be offensive based upon their original purpose. I could see how some deserve to be removed. But there is no doubt this is a slippery slope argument. If the more offensive ones need to go, what about statues of Washington and Jefferson - both slaveowners? I am sure if we apply 21st century morals to 18th and 19th century people there would be very few who would withstand scrutiny. At some point we need to confront and defy these left wing a-holes and tell them no.

This is it right here. It will never end. Nothing will ever be "good enough." They will never be satisfied no matter how much they take.

 

[Frankly]

Darwin wins in the end. The stronger people replace the weaker people. In our current situation I wouldn't say our replacements are stronger but we're willingly letting them in. It's called suicide.

The people in the statues were not perfect people but they do represent actually history and the success of our society, the "Darwinian" struggle. I wouldn't put a Stalin or Hitler statue up in the USA but I can totally understand why they would in their home countries (well except it'd be illegal in Germany).

 

[kgun12]

Just wait, they will go after all the monuments dealing with Native American battles, i.e. anything to due with Custer the 7th Calvary.

 

[CaseHardened]

What will they do? Don't worry about that. There will always be another problem to correct. The author of an article in the Atlantic magazine essentially said that white people could never repay the debt owed to black people. With that mindset there will always be another outrage of the month that requires fixing through ever more drastic means. Expect the reparations argument to be revived with a vengeance in the future.

I never thought about confederate monuments until last week. I can understand how some (not all) could be offensive based upon their original purpose. I could see how some deserve to be removed. But there is no doubt this is a slippery slope argument. If the more offensive ones need to go, what about statues of Washington and Jefferson - both slaveowners? I am sure if we apply 21st century morals to 18th and 19th century people there would be very few who would withstand scrutiny. At some point we need to confront and defy these left wing a-holes and tell them no.

WTF did my ancestors ever do to the Blacks ?

My Great-Grandfathers debarked on Ellis Island a bit over a century ago - dirt poor - as every single one of their ancestors had been. Never anything but serfs to the 1%. They worked their asses off, yet it was not until the early seventies that any of us attended college.

I, personally, was denied admission to MIT because "we have enough locals" - clearly a reference to the color of my skin.

I have no issues whatever with treating Blacks as equals - but I owe them NOTHING.

 

[CaseHardened]

It's hard to defend Columbus's leadership but it's unlikely any other European explorer of that time would have behaved much different or produced a better outcome. It was a brutal time.

I prefer to think of Columbus as a brave man who started the age of exploration, enlightenment, and modernity. I'm glad he got here so that eventually we could get here. That's why I'll celebrate him even if the ungrateful snowflakes disparage him.

You want to finger some REALLY brutal Europeans ? The descendants of people that raped, murdered, and ENSLAVED an entire CONTINENT ?

Then you should meet some Mexicans that speak SPANISH or Brazilians that speak PORTUGUESE.

I don't wish to minimize America's Native Americans, but hell. None of them had progressed past The Stone Age. Prior to the invasion none of them worked metal !

Spain and Portugal, however, enslaved entire civilizations. None had progressed to the Iron Age (much to their detriment), but they were pretty sophisticated in most things.

Witness the Incan work in Silver, Gold, and STONE ! Some of it unmatched to this very day.

When the next Mexican shouts at you to "Go Back to Europe", ask them why they speak Spanish.

 

[holdover]

George Washington was a slave owner. SO we need to rename Washington DC the state of Washington, every street named Washington and remove his presence from every book and monument .

 

[holdover]

Amerigo Vespucci was the Italian who found the new world. It was named after him, so we need to fix that too. everything done by white people needs to be un done and credited to the black race .

 

[CaseHardened]

If we wish to be fair, let's not forget the GENOCIDAL MASS MURDERERS that wiped out defenseless Native Americans.

Broke every treaty, murdered women and children.

Do you know their names ?

Sherman - Carleton - Carson - Chivington - Sibley - Hancock - Custer - Miles - Canby - Crook and so many more.

Slaughtering innocent civilians throughout the South did little to satiate their Blood Lust.

If anyone's statues should be torn down, it is theirs.

 

[CaseHardened]

Those of us who live in MASSACHUSETTS must certainly fight to RENAME the state !

Is a single member of the MASSACHUSETTS tribe even alive ?

 

[Doc8404]

Just left MA.

 

[Frankly]

Why do I have to kiss the ass of someone with more pigmentation whose dead ancestors may have been enslaved by somebody else's dead ancestors? That's racism.

 

[Acer-m14]

Thanks for posting. No. That's sarcasm. I've been working on my blood pressure and you're not helping.

I hate to say it but I wish trump would just pull all statues and put them in a museum. Watching these get destroyed is unbelievable.

just put them all under fed control for vandalism with very harsh rules .. like firing squad ..

 

[Bigfoot]

They won't stop with this... Until they are stopped by force... PERIOD

 

[Mosinitis]

To minimize resistance to this idiocy they suggest putting Confederate statues in to museums. There aren't enough museums that can display even one hundredth of these large statues, or store them. They will be destroyed.

 

[livingston]

George Washington was a slave owner. SO we need to rename Washington DC the state of Washington, every street named Washington and remove his presence from every book and monument .

That is no joke ... 6 months from now ... This exact question will be the main news story going forward....

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

George Washington was a slave owner. SO we need to rename Washington DC the state of Washington, every street named Washington and remove his presence from every book and monument .

Now your getting it.

The founding fathers have to go.

Patriots have to go

Anyone against antifa has to go

Etc... There's no end to it...it becomes a run away train of misguided ignorant rage

 

[Deplorable Me]

These democrats, progressives, liberals and other miscreant pinheads have no idea of the can of shit they are opening.

 

[Grimscale]

Hey we may be on to something.
I'm sure we all know someone who broke Federal treaty with the Native Americans in New York, and forced them to collect State taxes.
I say we imprison this person and wipe his name from all records and documents.

 

[Cooolone]

Thanks for posting. No. That's sarcasm. I've been working on my blood pressure and you're not helping.

I hate to say it but I wish trump would just pull all statues and put them in a museum. Watching these get destroyed is unbelievable.

I'd rather rebuild from ashes than submit to the madness!

Fuck pulling anything, and if their sensitivities can't handle the truth, our history, our society with all its advantages and shortcomings alike, then fuck them, let them walk around the block! Free choice is an amazing thing, you don't like someone, you don't have to associate with them. Don't like your employer, get another job, neighbor, then move...

Is utterly fucking amazing that there are those that think removing anything, even to a museum, will accomplish a thing! It does nothing!

They will then be drunk in power and begin attacking the next slight or wrong in their perception... Now cities and other places are removing them in the middle of the night, what does that tell you... We all know first hand in NY and in this forum how righteousness is championed after midnight!

Let them destroy, they wanna burn, go ahead, they want a fight, well, they keep it up and they just might get it.

Not endorsing anything other than refusing a mob mentality bent on revising history which is impossible! There is not a single person alive who can claim "Direct" harm from anything Civil War related and these contemporary buffoons want everyone to believe otherwise! Fuck them...

 

[dubleuhb]

I'm waiting for them to want the old tanks and artillery and such on alot of city and town property, you know it looks scary.

 

[Mosinitis]

For now we are having a "National debate" on this. After these statues come down, your views are no longer a "National debate", they will be "racist bigotry and hatred".
Note how none of the politicians in Washington are speaking out against it. They know some day it will be held against them. Trump is the only voice to push back on this.
I anticipate he will push back even more. Siding with ordinary people instead of elites worked well so far.