Apocalyptic News From The U.S. Virgin Islands

[livingston]

The Captain's Journal » Apocalyptic News From The U.S. Virgin Islands
Sunday Update
September 10, 2017 • 53 Comments


I’m scared. Those are words I never thought I would write when referring to St. John. But I’m scared. We’re only four days into this mess, and we’re hearing some awful things. For starters, Joe’s Rum Hut was broken into the day after Irma hit. The ATM was stolen. They attempted to get cash out of the register, but it was empty as Joe’s closed for season earlier this month. The ATM next to Cruz Bay Landing was stolen. The ATM at the ferry dock was stolen. Scoops has been broken into. St. John Insurance has been broken into. They hold almost all of the insurance policies on this island. Makes you wonder the intentions of that burglary, doesn’t it? Dolphin Market in Coral Bay was looted the very first night. The very first night. We heard this morning that the Customs building in Cruz Bay was broken into and that guns were stolen. We heard that there was at least three robberies at gunpoint on Gifft Hill. This is not St. John anymore. I’m not sure what it is. What I do know is that I am scared. My friends are scared. And we don’t know what to do.

Last night I was able to go home. What I failed to mention was that we had to install a bar on the inside of our door so no one could break in. This is our new reality. Last night, for the first time since moving here, I was afraid to walk down the streets of Cruz Bay. And it was only 6:30 p.m. People are getting desperate, and desperate times call for desperate measures from some unfortunately. We are only on day four. What’s going to happen next? .... More....
Sunday Update - News of St. John

One of the more interesting part of the story

Our police force does nothing. They sit in their cars and yell at people over the loudspeaker. I kid you not. They’re not even helping with traffic in areas where it’s needed. You know who is? Our homeless people. Our homeless people are directing traffic, and our police are not. Let that sink in for a minute. Several police officers can be seen constantly at Ronnie’s Pizza – our new cell phone spot – and they’re scrolling through Facebook rather than patrolling our streets. Im shocked they actually got out of their cars for that. I took pictures and I cannot wait until I have internet so I can share them with the world........

A true live shtf situation folks

 

[holdover]

Pretty sure he, and a lot of other people are reconsidering their positions on firearms.

""You can ignore reality, but you cant ignore the consequences of ignoring reality""

 

[livingston]

from the comments section...
Kevin
September 11, 2017 at 9:25 am


I’m sure that the ferries are suffering just like everyone else – contaminated fuel supplies, damaged ships, no power, no communications (so no way to take payments other than cash – and that is risky too) – all of these things conspire to complicate the effort to get ferry service back online. Couple that with the obvious lack of civil protection, and it’s not going to be any time soon.

Looting and robbery are rampant in the Lesser Antilles, as food supplies dwindle and certain people take advantage of the lack of law enforcement to use the threat of violence to steal from individuals. Governments are slow to respond, hampered by distance and Jose.

I worry for the residents of the USVI, because elsewhere the descent into anarchy is happening just too fast to be believed, and it could easily get worse once supplies begin to draw down.

Reply

• 
  
  Edward Hamilton
  September 11, 2017 at 7:18 pm
  Rowing a dinghy between St John and St Thomas isn’t going to be easy even if you are a strong rower, to row to St Croix is ridiculous. But then you’re just jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. St Thomas isn’t any better right now, unless you’ve got a big gun and plenty of ammo. But without a safe place to sleep you’re another target after the storm.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Meanwhile CNN reporters continue to stand in the rain and wind to show you how brave they are and not report on the reality of life like this.

 

[togmaster]

Written by a true snowflake.

 

[livingston]

Written by a true snowflake.

Written by someone that has just realized that they are in a true shtf situation . It could be this person is not native to the islands ... Very problematic ... As folks will be looking at ( this person as ) a walking ATM machine during the weeks ahead . When the ATM's do get working That could be even more danger to them . Kidnap a family member and demand ten grand or so. .. Perhaps this person did prep ... Having one's home destroyed .. or half destroyed .. Along with the rest of the city.... would be a disaster for anyone.
When the police do nothing to protect anything such as this case that shock is overwhelming ,,, Most folks are not prepared for this reality . In another article posted it was very hard to get access to almost any gun. ... Citizens disarmed ....just by not allowing any arms.. Everyone down there understands this ... Now as always the bad folks can and will have them. ... And now the working class folk ... live in fear.

 

[livingston]

 

[Calculon]

Why would you stay on that island with a Cat5 hurricane bearing down on you? With days to make a decision you only have yourself to blame for not getting out of harm's way. Believing the government will be there to protect you is a lie people tell themselves. Look how bad it was here in the US after Katrina - would you expect things to be better/different on a Caribbean island with a population of less than 5,000 residents and no real government structure to speak of?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Wow. Pretty eye opening how quickly "modern civilisation" devolves in major SHTF.

a word that I think is important, if you find yourself in a location during shtf with a firmly engrained "local population" or local culture and you are a new outsider and not a part of the local group. You will be viewed by some as exploitable.

I think where you are in shtf plays a part as well. Everyone remembers Katrina and new Orleans and now the virgin islands. Things they have in common are being in a hot climate, being physically and geographically isolated or cut off, lack of or depleted resources and demographic majority populations are very high percentage of African american descent. I don't mean it to sound rascist but just making an observation.

 

[livingston]

This fellow made this several years ago .. spot on

 

[1911guy]

Meanwhile CNN reporters continue to stand in the rain and wind to show you how brave they are and not report on the reality of life like this.

I'd add "stupid" to that list of what they show.

 

[meketrefe]

The whole idea behind prepping is to do it in advance.
When the hurricane is coming it is too late.

 

[Deplorable Me]

This fellow made this several years ago .. spot on

Solution: Wonder how much this weighs for store pickup?

 

[Deplorable Me]

To be a prepper you have to plan for an assortment of levels of living, bad, worse, crappy and SHTF. In Florida and the VI some of the low level preppers have generators but no freakin gasoline. No plan B, C, D, E, F................. All their eggs in one basket, ammo in one can and are one gun homes.

The way I look at it, a post hurricane area is a materials rich environment. You have to have hand tools and a basic building knowledge set. Overcome, adapt and improvise. If you can't organize other reasonable people you have to learn to be invisible, mean and fast.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This fellow made this several years ago .. spot on

@livingston. Does that guy have a website or anything? I liked his video he makes good sense


Thanks

 

[Marine Cpl]

Why would you stay on that island with a Cat5 hurricane bearing down on you? With days to make a decision you only have yourself to blame for not getting out of harm's way. Believing the government will be there to protect you is a lie people tell themselves. Look how bad it was here in the US after Katrina - would you expect things to be better/different on a Caribbean island with a population of less than 5,000 residents and no real government structure to speak of?

Call me crazy but if my home was there, I'd stay there. I'd be prepared though.

 

[Bananabandit]

They got fucked. Are they still the virgin islands?

 

[GOPerfect]

I was talking to a few co-workers the other day about being prepared.

Some think it is funny how much time, money and effort that I spend to prepare for the unknown.

Some of them do not understand that it is not the Zombies that I am preparing for; it is more of the civil unrest that I prep for. Civil unrest that we are seeing all over the Country. It may be the weather, scumbags taking what is not theirs. Makes no difference to me, I try to be prepared for whatever comes our way.

 

[Calculon]

Call me crazy but if my home was there, I'd stay there. I'd be prepared though.

I understand you and feel similar to a certain extent. If I was by myself I might ride it out and hope for the best but I would not let my wife and kids be at risk regardless of my investment or what my property looked like.

Not sure what 2A rights look like there so you may be disadvantaged vs being in NY (as hard as that is to believe).

 

[Acer-m14]

@Drinkthekoolaid he had a you tube chan , but had health issues and shut down .. there are still a bunch of vids on you tube if you search for him ..

 

[Airborneguy]

After Sandy, the lines for gas here in the city were unreal. It got to the point that the police department allowed us to fill up at department facilities because we couldn't find gas to get to work. My step father owns a gas station and every morning people would line up on the hopes that he would get a truck. They'd wait hours for and end up leaving (the first 4-5 days at least). When he finally got gas in, he had to pay a few retired cops to do security/control the line.

We have a plan in place with the family to secure the gas station for ourselves in case of a bigger emergency than a hurricane. I live closest to it and have the most/best weapons, so you can guess my role. My step father have the means to store a lot of gas at home, and shut/run the pumps without power. During Sandy, only a handful of people got pushy about siphoning what was in the tanks. During a real emergency, some lead leasons might be required to get the message across.

It's nice knowing we have that resource though. Even if he allowed the tanks to go to half, we'd have enough gas left for the family for quite a while and the means to defend it with a small outfit of trusted and capable people.

 

[freddy]

...We have a plan in place with the family to secure the gas station for ourselves in case of a bigger emergency than a hurricane. I live closest to it and have the most/best weapons, so you can guess my role. My step father have the means to store a lot of gas at home, and shut/run the pumps without power. During Sandy, only a handful of people got pushy about siphoning what was in the tanks. During a real emergency, some lead leasons might be required to get the message across...

Would you expand on this please? What is method of storage?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Would you expand on this please? What is method of storage?

I'm sure its something the EPA wouldn't appreciate

 

[4excal]

Why would you stay on that island with a Cat5 hurricane bearing down on you? With days to make a decision you only have yourself to blame for not getting out of harm's way. Believing the government will be there to protect you is a lie people tell themselves. Look how bad it was here in the US after Katrina - would you expect things to be better/different on a Caribbean island with a population of less than 5,000 residents and no real government structure to speak of?

Because like 90% of those island communities are poor with no place to go. The fake facade of island paradise is only within the gates of the resorts

 

[turbobike]

This was a while ago but during the "Ice Storm" in the 90's (out of power for almost three weeks) my family was threatened by several individuals who wanted access to our generator and cooler. Our house then was close to the road, lights at night from generator had people knocking on our door..."is the electric back on", "do you have any milk we can borrow", "is your phone working" The rational..."its for my family".."you selfish bastards"..."don't sleep MF's we'll be back"...Lesson's learned, I now have provisions but all are stealthily, no loud visible generators, NO lights at night (extremely important), wife and I are armed and train somewhat regularly. We even have a basic "storm cellar" away from our home that we could use to make house look deserted.
I guess the best lesson it too look as desperate as the next refugee, and let no one know your even slightly prepared.

 

[Airborneguy]

Would you expand on this please? What is method of storage?

Nothing crazy, but definitely not legal. He doesn't have a buried tank or anything like that.

When Sandy was looming, he starting bringing gas home 20 gallons at a time for like a week or so. It was more than enough, especially since the power ended up only being out in our area for a few hours. He ran the generator for a few hours and then used what he had brought home for our vehicles until the supply resumed at the station.

 

[Airborneguy]

This was a while ago but during the "Ice Storm" in the 90's (out of power for almost three weeks) my family was threatened by several individuals who wanted access to our generator and cooler. Our house then was close to the road, lights at night from generator had people knocking on our door..."is the electric back on", "do you have any milk we can borrow", "is your phone working" The rational..."its for my family".."you selfish bastards"..."don't sleep MF's we'll be back"...Lesson's learned, I now have provisions but all are stealthily, no loud visible generators, NO lights at night (extremely important), wife and I are armed and train somewhat regularly. We even have a basic "storm cellar" away from our home that we could use to make house look deserted.
I guess the best lesson it too look as desperate as the next refugee, and let no one know your even slightly prepared.

When we were guarding the station on and off during Sandy, I had a long talk with my cousin regarding his ability to kill if it became necessary. Thankfully no one pushed beyond some fist fights over the spots in line, but the possibility was there. One thing I remember was my stepfather saying that every day he wanted to clear out the tank once gas started coming again that way no one would try to hit his place at night. Once word got out that he had run dru each day, the line mostly dissipated and the place was ignored until the early morning when they would start lining up again.

 

[livingston]

@livingston. Does that guy have a website or anything? I liked his video he makes good sense
Thanks

Maineprepper Reruns
This fellow had 300+ you tubes at one time .
The Maineprepper on Gumroad
He suffered a TBI in a war zone and has struggled with it for years. He has served in both army and marines . Some months he hardly would post as he had trouble concentrating even on simple things. Then on one post he said things were getting worse and his channel went black

 

[livingston]

He tells about his life in the service in this video

 

[livingston]

Would you expand on this please? What is method of storage?

1000 gallon fuel tank