RELAX - Things are WORSE than you think - Trump signs Omnibus

[CaseHardened]

To me, it is clear was is happening.

President Trump DID meet with General Mattis, and our Military Situation is dire.

Former presidents, especially the Kenyan, have thru stupidity, greed, or actual malice SOLD AMERICA OUT.

We have enemies: Iran, North Korea, Russia, and especially CHINA that have been developing resources and technologies that present a significant THREAT.

WE ARE ALREADY BEHIND.

It will take genuine and immediate effort to catch up, match, and hopefully exceed what opposes us.

President Trump recognizes that as unpleasant as the OMNIBUS is, it does provide what is IMMEDIATELY needed - INCREASED MILITARY EXPENDITURE.

Never forget what a SHITHOLE NATION Trump was presented with.

AMERICA IS A MESS.

He can't hope to correct everything at once.

ARE WE DISAPPOINTED ? YES.

But please do not lose hope.

President Trump needs our support now more than ever.

 

[BDinPutnam]

You know what's an actual national security threat?

Hint: it ain't cheap steel.





20 trillion dollars in debt, that's what.

 

[masterswimmer]

You know what's an actual national security threat?

Hint: it ain't cheap steel.





20 trillion dollars in debt, that's what.

In 'modern times' only two presidents reduced the federal deficit, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. Every other president added to the deficit. The worst percentage wise was none other than Barry Obama.

Our federal deficit is virtually impossible to erase. Inflation, increased wages, increasing retirees all make it basically a certainty the deficit will continually grow.

 

[Bigfoot]

On the Bauerle and Bellavia radio program (Buffalo, WBEN 930) I was listening to yesterday afternoon.
A guy that called into the radio program was of the opinion that something is up with President Trump
signing omnibus. Something is just not right about it, his hand must have been forced one way or another.

The guy that called in thinks that not only is our military situation dire as @CaseHardened
has already mentioned. There may also be a "serious" national security threat from another country
Iran, North Korea, Russia, China etc. Or possibly a combination of those countries teaming up and
working together against us. Therefore, President Trump felt that he had no choice but to sign the omnibus
to get the funding to strengthen our military.

As we all know, we the general public are not privy to a lot of information that the ones in charge of
this countries national security are. It is quite possible that President Trump knows something that we don't.
And because of that, he felt that it was imperative that he sign omnibus to get the funding for our military.
There is a good probability that President Trump knows something that we don't and wants the military
at the top of it's game as it once was.

I myself find the above scenario plausible, I am no Trump apologist and right now I have one foot on the Trump train
and one foot off of it and remaining in a holding pattern at this point. But what I typed above makes more sense
than President Trump giving the scumbag Democrats everything they want and stabbing his voting base in the back IMO.

The bottom line is, President Trump may have felt that he had no other choice for reasons that we do not know of.

 

[masterswimmer]

On the Bauerle and Bellavia radio program (Buffalo, WBEN 930) I was listening to yesterday afternoon.
A guy that called into the radio program was of the opinion that something is up with President Trump
signing omnibus. Something is just not right about it, his hand must have been forced one way or another.

The guy that called in thinks that not only is our military situation dire as @CaseHardened
has already mentioned. There may also be a "serious" national security threat from another country
Iran, North Korea, Russia, China etc. Or possibly a combination of those countries teaming up and
working together against us. Therefore, President Trump felt that he had no choice but to sign the omnibus
to get the funding to strengthen our military.

As we all know, we the general public are not privy to a lot of information that the ones in charge of
this countries national security are. It is quite possible that President Trump knows something that we don't.
And because of that, he felt that it was imperative that he sign omnibus to get the funding for our military.
There is a good probability that President Trump knows something that we don't and wants the military
at the top of it's game as it once was.

I myself find the above scenario plausible, I am no Trump apologist and right now I have one foot on the Trump train
and one foot off of it and remaining in a holding pattern at this point. But what I typed above makes more sense
than President Trump giving the scumbag Democrats everything they want and stabbing his voting base in the back IMO.

The bottom line is, President Trump may have felt that he had no other choice for reasons that we do not know of.

All I can say is I hope your analysis is correct, because there's an awful lot of Trump train riders with one foot on the platform.

 

[Phazer]

DUPLICATE THREAD
https://nygunforum.com/threads/sold-out.18839/

 

[fartgamer]

Should be renamed the Ominus Bill.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

On the Bauerle and Bellavia radio program (Buffalo, WBEN 930) I was listening to yesterday afternoon.
A guy that called into the radio program was of the opinion that something is up with President Trump
signing omnibus. Something is just not right about it, his hand must have been forced one way or another.

The guy that called in thinks that not only is our military situation dire as @CaseHardened
has already mentioned. There may also be a "serious" national security threat from another country
Iran, North Korea, Russia, China etc. Or possibly a combination of those countries teaming up and
working together against us. Therefore, President Trump felt that he had no choice but to sign the omnibus
to get the funding to strengthen our military.

As we all know, we the general public are not privy to a lot of information that the ones in charge of
this countries national security are. It is quite possible that President Trump knows something that we don't.
And because of that, he felt that it was imperative that he sign omnibus to get the funding for our military.
There is a good probability that President Trump knows something that we don't and wants the military
at the top of it's game as it once was.

I myself find the above scenario plausible, I am no Trump apologist and right now I have one foot on the Trump train
and one foot off of it and remaining in a holding pattern at this point. But what I typed above makes more sense
than President Trump giving the scumbag Democrats everything they want and stabbing his voting base in the back IMO.

The bottom line is, President Trump may have felt that he had no other choice for reasons that we do not know of.

All the while, if our dire military situation is true, we have a congress too preoccupied with selfish partisan bs to care about the country. It's so easy to blame Trump and like you, I'm on the fence about him now, but don't forget that it is our elected reps in congress who have put us where we are and who have put Trump in the position where he has to choose between financial responsibility and fulfilling campaign promises or giving the military what it needs to catch up with our enemies.

 

[ProgSpear]

While I'm disappointed, I don't blame Trump, I blame the feckless, spineless, greedy, lying, two-faced, shitbags posing as the opposition wing in the progressive anti-constitutional Uniparty.

 

[Criticalt]

To me, it is clear was is happening.

President Trump DID meet with General Mattis, and our Military Situation is dire.

Former presidents, especially the Kenyan, have thru stupidity, greed, or actual malice SOLD AMERICA OUT.

We have enemies: Iran, North Korea, Russia, and especially CHINA that have been developing resources and technologies that present a significant THREAT.

WE ARE ALREADY BEHIND.

It will take genuine and immediate effort to catch up, match, and hopefully exceed what opposes us.

President Trump recognizes that as unpleasant as the OMNIBUS is, it does provide what is IMMEDIATELY needed - INCREASED MILITARY EXPENDITURE.

Never forget what a SHITHOLE NATION Trump was presented with.

AMERICA IS A MESS.

He can't hope to correct everything at once.

ARE WE DISAPPOINTED ? YES.

But please do not lose hope.

President Trump needs our support now more than ever.

And in this bill is $10,000,000 to China to help their military.
Also, 10s of millions to Afganistan, Iraq, Vietnam and several other nations to help with their border security, military and police forces.
Also $500,000,000 to Planned Parenthood.
It FULLY funds ALL sanctuary cities and California gets ALL their money while breaking federal laws.
1.2 billion for border security but none for a wall
There is ALOT more that would shock you.
This bill is an abomination.

 

[Criticalt]

While I'm disappointed, I don't blame Trump, I blame the feckless, spineless, greedy, lying, two-faced, shitbags posing as the opposition wing in the progressive anti-constitutional Uniparty.

In this one bill Trump goes against everything he campaigned on, except the military.
Planned Parenthood
The wall
Sanctuary cities/states
Funding other nations.....etc.
He has now landed right in the middle of the swamp.

Do you know who likes this bill?
Chuck Shumer thinks its great, seriously.
Big win for the dems.

 

[Dr. Evil]

To me, it is clear was is happening.

President Trump DID meet with General Mattis, and our Military Situation is dire.

Former presidents, especially the Kenyan, have thru stupidity, greed, or actual malice SOLD AMERICA OUT.

We have enemies: Iran, North Korea, Russia, and especially CHINA that have been developing resources and technologies that present a significant THREAT.

WE ARE ALREADY BEHIND.

It will take genuine and immediate effort to catch up, match, and hopefully exceed what opposes us.

President Trump recognizes that as unpleasant as the OMNIBUS is, it does provide what is IMMEDIATELY needed - INCREASED MILITARY EXPENDITURE.

Never forget what a SHITHOLE NATION Trump was presented with.

AMERICA IS A MESS.

He can't hope to correct everything at once.

ARE WE DISAPPOINTED ? YES.

But please do not lose hope.

President Trump needs our support now more than ever.

While I get what you are saying I still feel he could have vetoed it so the things @Criticalt mentioned above wouldn't be a reality. IMHO I believe he would have still succeeded in securing military funding once the public understood why he was vetoing it. Maybe not today, but in a relatively short time. Don't you remember him calling the Dems bluff on the most recent government shut down debacle when the Dems were crying foul because DACA wasn't included? What happened then? The public understood and the Dems caved. Schumer's own party was even talking smack about him. Why do you think it would have been different now if Trump vetoed it? Do you really think we were in such dire need that a few more weeks of no military funding would spell the end of the US?

 

[CaseHardened]

There are things in life that can wait.

That new Car Sound System ? Probably can wait for a month or two.

The first Atomic Bomb ? Each day mattered.

I hope President Trump's decision was not prompted by anything so dire, but we will likely never know.

 

[ProgSpear]

Or we'll find out sooner than we ever wanted to.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Or we'll find out sooner than we ever wanted to.

Ominous. I fear you may be right. I feel like all the things Carlson mentioned were in the bill and more, Trump would never have signed off on unless there were some serious reason. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Shadow2]

Where is the money going? Nobody has Defense Budget like ours? So I'd like to know where its going. These High school kids may get a cash course in why we have the second amendment real soon.

 

[Saltwater60]

You know what's an actual national security threat?

Hint: it ain't cheap steel.





20 trillion dollars in debt, that's what.

It’s the debt, the disarmament of people, and next to come will be our military spending cut by a crazied democrat.

 

[CaseHardened]

Ominous. I fear you may be right. I feel like all the things Carlson mentioned were in the bill and more, Trump would never have signed off on unless there were some serious reason. It just doesn't make sense.

President Trump certainly went out of his way to tell the Nation how reluctant he was to sign the Bill.

 

[CaseHardened]

Where is the money going? Nobody has Defense Budget like ours? So I'd like to know where its going. These High school kids may get a cash course in why we have the second amendment real soon.

Swell.

A Million America CITIZENS drafted to die, while ILLEGALS laugh and laugh and laugh.

 

[ProgSpear]

Universal conscription should start with any able bodied individual who is on the public dole (including making money on "tax refunds"). Time for some skin in the game, bitches.

 

[BDinPutnam]

President Trump certainly went out of his way to tell the Nation how reluctant he was to sign the Bill.

AND THEN...

He signed it.

 

[CaseHardened]

Universal conscription should start with any able bodied individual who is on the public dole (including making money on "tax refunds"). Time for some skin in the game, bitches.

We need a proper "ROUNDUP" - NOW !

 

[Marine Cpl]

AND THEN...

He signed it.

And then he said it was the last time he was going to sign it. That doesn't make sense unless there was something in there he needed rather than wanted.

 

[Pissed Off Patriot]

And then he said it was the last time he was going to sign it. That doesn't make sense unless there was something in there he needed rather than wanted.

Everyone in the media calls it a budget, but it isn't a budget. Here's another viewpoint on it that I've seen going around...

"…Here it is..
It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…
Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.
This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..
An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them.
He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to.
And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..
I think our President observed how this happened, year after year.
He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.
So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to.
Or…not spend it.

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…


Planned Parenthood?
What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?
Sanctuary Cities?
What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?
Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia?
Why yes.
There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.
But what could they do about it.
Hah.
Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’"

 

[Pissed Off Patriot]

And there's this one...

 

[Dr. Evil]

I really hope you guys are right about the omnibus strategy and Trump. This is one of the reasons I hate politics though. They make things so freaking difficult and have such bizarre rules and ways of doing things. You almost have to be corrupt or Einstein to get things done.

 

[Acer-m14]

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…

I have seen that too and wounder .. if real ( i hope so ) .. Trump is not playing 4d chess .. its up to level 6d ..

 

[livingston]

 

[masterswimmer]

If this is accurate, and it is the Donald's intent.....holy crap that's great turnabout. Barry does it, no problem. The Donald does it and he'll get castigated.
But he won't care